countless studies showing hgh will fuck you up

[AtrophicPyra]

yes im on hgh right now and have no negative side effects besides water retention, i also have multiple friends irl on 6+ ius with the same anecdotes

whats the duration, dose, have u done hormone panel, have u done abdominal imaging? xrays? how frequent? if ur taking like 3 iu for a few months then maybe id believe u

 

[India lover 52]

whats the duration, dose, have u done hormone panel, have u done abdominal imaging? xrays? how frequent? if ur taking like 3 iu for a few months then maybe id believe u

8 ius im tall enough idc about height doing it for recomp/recovery 4 months in also your a fucking retard so i don't care if you believe me also i don't do hormone panels thats for pussies also if you don't believe me you can look on this fourm or any bodybuilding fourm and find thousands of people with the exact same story as me just because you asked chatgpt and it gave you one fucking study doesn't mean your right

 

[AtrophicPyra]

8 ius im tall enough idc about height doing it for recomp/recovery 4 months in also your a fucking retard so i don't care if you believe me also i don't do hormone panels thats for pussies also if you don't believe me you can look on this fourm or any bodybuilding fourm and find thousands of people with the exact same story as me just because you asked chatgpt and it gave you one fucking study doesn't mean your right

nigga taking hgh for recovery jfl just take bpc157

 

[India lover 52]

whats the duration, dose, have u done hormone panel, have u done abdominal imaging? xrays? how frequent? if ur taking like 3 iu for a few months then maybe id believe u

only an autistic person would get fucking abdominal imaging for hgh also you naturally produce 8 ius at age 17 so with your logic every single 17 year old should have acromegaly and enlarged organs

is the fact not a SINGLE person in this thread is agreeing with you not making you question your gpt slop

 

[AtrophicPyra]

What a fucking faggot

Whole lotta misinformation

proof? personal experience? ur sophistical maxxing

 

[India lover 52]

nigga taking hgh for recovery jfl just take bpc157

im on bpc too im on tren so i need alot of tendon/connective tissue support so i don't get injured

 

[India lover 52]

proof? personal experience? ur sophistical maxxing

your "proof" is a study that chatgpt gave you about people with a rare brain tumor that makes them produce 20+ ius of hgh constantly for life having enlarged organs

 

[Zagro]

proof? personal experience? ur sophistical maxxing

What do you want proof on, but first of all where is your proof faggot you're the one making the claim

Experience: 16iu daily that enough or nah

 

[Zagro]

your "proof" is a study that chatgpt gave you about people with a rare brain tumor that makes them produce 20+ ius of hgh constantly for life having enlarged organs

Nigga thinks he can mimic acromegaly with his little gh, cute

 

[Starborn]

takes alot more then that son

stop saying son

 

[AtrophicPyra]

only an autistic person would get fucking abdominal imaging for hgh also you naturally produce 8 ius at age 17 so with your logic every single 17 year old should have acromegaly and enlarged organs

is the fact not a SINGLE person in this thread is agreeing with you not making you question your gpt slo

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21521288/ have fun hitting cardio jfl

 

[India lover 52]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21521288/ have fun hitting cardio jfl

again thats a fucking study about people with a rare brain tumor, so far you have not showed a single study that references anything equivalent to a normal dose of hgh

 

[Zagro]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21521288/ have fun hitting cardio jfl

nigga is comparing us to acromegaly patients im crine

 

[AtrophicPyra]

What do you want proof on, but first of all where is your proof faggot you're the one making the claim

Experience: 16iu daily that enough or nah

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21521288/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12193430/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12193430/

 

[India lover 52]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21521288/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12193430/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12193430/

1. Vast Differences in GH Exposure: Chronic vs. Controlled, Endogenous vs. Exogenous​

Acromegaly is a rare disorder caused by a pituitary tumor that leads to uncontrolled, endogenous overproduction of GH, often for decades before diagnosis. This results in persistently elevated, non-pulsatile GH and IGF-1 levels that wreak havoc system-wide. In contrast, HGH users (e.g., athletes or anti-aging enthusiasts) administer exogenous recombinant HGH in controlled doses, typically subcutaneously, aiming to mimic the body's natural pulsatile secretion pattern. These doses are often supraphysiological but finite—think 2–10 IU/day for months or years, not a lifetime of unchecked excess.


The key issue? Acromegaly's GH surge is constant and tumor-driven, leading to cumulative damage over time. Exogenous HGH, even at high doses, is intermittent and user-regulated, with breaks, cycling, or tapering to mitigate sides. Extrapolating risks like cancer or diabetes from acromegaly ignores this: studies show acromegaly's complications stem from prolonged, unregulated exposure, not short-term spikes. For instance, acromegaly patients often have IGF-1 levels skyrocketing to 800–1000+ ng/mL indefinitely, while HGH users might hit 400–600 ng/mL temporarily and monitor via bloodwork to stay sub-acromegalic.

2. Population and Comorbidity Confounding: Diseased vs. Healthy Baselines​

Acromegaly patients aren't a clean slate—they're dealing with a underlying tumor that can compress the pituitary, causing hypopituitarism (deficiencies in other hormones like TSH or ACTH) or even vision loss from optic chiasm pressure. Many are older (diagnosis often in 40s–50s), with preexisting conditions exacerbated by the disease, like hypertension or sleep apnea. This makes it impossible to isolate GH excess as the sole culprit for outcomes like increased mortality or cancer risk.


HGH users, on the other hand, are frequently young, fit individuals (bodybuilders, athletes) with no such pathologies. They're starting from a healthy baseline, often stacking HGH with other compounds (e.g., insulin, steroids) that could independently affect health. Comparing the two is like blaming alcohol for liver failure in cirrhosis patients while ignoring their hepatitis C—acromegaly's tumor and comorbidities are massive confounders that HGH studies don't replicate. Research on acromegaly highlights systemic complications tied to the disease process itself, not just GH, making direct translation to healthy users nonsensical.

3. Methodological Mismatches: Observational vs. Interventional Data​

Acromegaly studies are largely retrospective or observational, tracking patients with established disease over time. They're great for describing what happens in untreated or poorly managed cases but lousy for causation. Outcomes like higher cancer rates (e.g., colorectal) in acromegaly might link to IGF-1, but they're confounded by surveillance bias (more screenings in monitored patients) and the tumor's oncogenic potential.


HGH user "studies" (often anecdotal forums or small trials) are interventional but short-term, focusing on benefits like muscle gain or fat loss, with limited long-term follow-up. No large-scale RCTs exist on long-term HGH abuse because it's unethical and illegal in many contexts. So, slapping acromegaly data onto HGH users ignores that acromegaly evidence comes from pathological extremes, while HGH data is from controlled, elective use. Experts explicitly warn against direct extrapolation, noting that findings in acromegalic individuals "cannot be directly extrapolated to exogenous GH administration." This isn't science; it's selective fearmongering.

4. Risk and Outcome Disparities: Long-Term Pathology vs. Short-Term Use​

Acromegaly's hallmarks—enlarged organs, joint destruction, insulin resistance—emerge after years of excess, often irreversible even post-treatment. Mortality is elevated in uncontrolled cases, but normalizes with modern interventions like surgery or meds. HGH users rarely hit that duration or severity; side effects like edema or carpal tunnel are transient and resolve with dose adjustments. Claims that HGH "causes cancer like acromegaly" overlook that acromegaly's risks are from lifelong exposure, not 6-month cycles. In fact, some data suggest low-dose HGH in deficient adults improves quality of life without acromegaly-like harm

 

[Zagro]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21521288/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12193430/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12193430/

acromegalic patients
pre-pubescent patients

Why do you think their bone age suddenly increases? Take a wild guess, just maybe because they're underdeveloped and not at par with their peers, you use "high" (6iu in the study jfl) dose gh= you trigger sexual development/maturation earlier

Healthy children/adolescents produce more than this "high" dose naturally btw

 

[India lover 52]

ask chatgpt to sumarize that

1. Vast Differences in GH Exposure: Chronic vs. Controlled, Endogenous vs. Exogenous​

Acromegaly is a rare disorder caused by a pituitary tumor that leads to uncontrolled, endogenous overproduction of GH, often for decades before diagnosis. This results in persistently elevated, non-pulsatile GH and IGF-1 levels that wreak havoc system-wide. In contrast, HGH users (e.g., athletes or anti-aging enthusiasts) administer exogenous recombinant HGH in controlled doses, typically subcutaneously, aiming to mimic the body's natural pulsatile secretion pattern. These doses are often supraphysiological but finite—think 2–10 IU/day for months or years, not a lifetime of unchecked excess.


The key issue? Acromegaly's GH surge is constant and tumor-driven, leading to cumulative damage over time. Exogenous HGH, even at high doses, is intermittent and user-regulated, with breaks, cycling, or tapering to mitigate sides. Extrapolating risks like cancer or diabetes from acromegaly ignores this: studies show acromegaly's complications stem from prolonged, unregulated exposure, not short-term spikes. For instance, acromegaly patients often have IGF-1 levels skyrocketing to 800–1000+ ng/mL indefinitely, while HGH users might hit 400–600 ng/mL temporarily and monitor via bloodwork to stay sub-acromegalic.

2. Population and Comorbidity Confounding: Diseased vs. Healthy Baselines​

Acromegaly patients aren't a clean slate—they're dealing with a underlying tumor that can compress the pituitary, causing hypopituitarism (deficiencies in other hormones like TSH or ACTH) or even vision loss from optic chiasm pressure. Many are older (diagnosis often in 40s–50s), with preexisting conditions exacerbated by the disease, like hypertension or sleep apnea. This makes it impossible to isolate GH excess as the sole culprit for outcomes like increased mortality or cancer risk.


HGH users, on the other hand, are frequently young, fit individuals (bodybuilders, athletes) with no such pathologies. They're starting from a healthy baseline, often stacking HGH with other compounds (e.g., insulin, steroids) that could independently affect health. Comparing the two is like blaming alcohol for liver failure in cirrhosis patients while ignoring their hepatitis C—acromegaly's tumor and comorbidities are massive confounders that HGH studies don't replicate. Research on acromegaly highlights systemic complications tied to the disease process itself, not just GH, making direct translation to healthy users nonsensical.

3. Methodological Mismatches: Observational vs. Interventional Data​

Acromegaly studies are largely retrospective or observational, tracking patients with established disease over time. They're great for describing what happens in untreated or poorly managed cases but lousy for causation. Outcomes like higher cancer rates (e.g., colorectal) in acromegaly might link to IGF-1, but they're confounded by surveillance bias (more screenings in monitored patients) and the tumor's oncogenic potential.


HGH user "studies" (often anecdotal forums or small trials) are interventional but short-term, focusing on benefits like muscle gain or fat loss, with limited long-term follow-up. No large-scale RCTs exist on long-term HGH abuse because it's unethical and illegal in many contexts. So, slapping acromegaly data onto HGH users ignores that acromegaly evidence comes from pathological extremes, while HGH data is from controlled, elective use. Experts explicitly warn against direct extrapolation, noting that findings in acromegalic individuals "cannot be directly extrapolated to exogenous GH administration." This isn't science; it's selective fearmongering.

4. Risk and Outcome Disparities: Long-Term Pathology vs. Short-Term Use​

Acromegaly's hallmarks—enlarged organs, joint destruction, insulin resistance—emerge after years of excess, often irreversible even post-treatment. Mortality is elevated in uncontrolled cases, but normalizes with modern interventions like surgery or meds. HGH users rarely hit that duration or severity; side effects like edema or carpal tunnel are transient and resolve with dose adjustments. Claims that HGH "causes cancer like acromegaly" overlook that acromegaly's risks are from lifelong exposure, not 6-month cycles. In fact, some data suggest low-dose HGH in deficient adults improves quality of life without acromegaly-like harm

ask chatgpt to summarize this and maybe u will be able to understand then

 

[AtrophicPyra]

i think you just have chatgpt induced executive function loss

how tf is this chatgpt read it tell me otherwise, btw every risk that are linked in those studies are way more likely/riskier for teens who are alr getting enough hgh which is most teens. also have u even seen benefits to using hgh or r u just praying to gandy for bone growth whilst taking a vial of piss from russia

 

[ascendtocl122]

dudes will say this and continue to eat foods and use products that cause cancer

 

[India lover 52]

how tf is this chatgpt read it tell me otherwise, btw every risk that are linked in those studies are way more likely/riskier for teens who are alr getting enough hgh which is most teens. also have u even seen benefits to using hgh or r u just praying to gandy for bone growth whilst taking a vial of piss from russia

as you said in your original post hgh shuts down your natural gh production while you are on it so your not just doubling your hgh levels, btw even high dose hgh users will won't even have half the igf levels of an acromegaly patient

btw i already said im taking hgh for bodybuilding purposes not bone growth because im not a retard like you who believes in stuff like that

 

[Zagro]

how tf is this chatgpt read it tell me otherwise, btw every risk that are linked in those studies are way more likely/riskier for teens who are alr getting enough hgh which is most teens. also have u even seen benefits to using hgh or r u just praying to gandy for bone growth whilst taking a vial of piss from russia

Fucking idiot GHD/ISS/Turners all have fucking comorbidites, 200%+ overweight, pituitary defects, insensitivities to hormones to begin with and MUCH MUCH more, some of them niggas are fucking hypogonadal because GHD is sometimes correlated to sex hormone production aswell, all of them have fucking high baseline risk for rhGH how do you compare them to healthy adolescents

Most teens nowadays don't get half the gh they need

what a fucking moron I'm having a nice laugh

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

You dont want it bad enough

 

[Zagro]

as you said in your original post hgh shuts down your natural gh production while you are on it so your not just doubling your hgh levels, btw even high dose hgh users will won't even have half the igf levels of an acromegaly patient

btw i already said im taking hgh for bodybuilding purposes not bone growth because im not a retard like you who believes in stuff like that

You're even more retarded it wont build muscle itself

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Fucking idiot GHD/ISS/Turners all have fucking comorbidites to begin with, some of them niggas are fucking hypogonadal because GHD is sometimes correlated to sex hormone production aswell, all of them have fucking high baseline risk for rhGH how do you compare them to healthy adolescents

Most teens nowadays don't get half the gh they need

what a fucking moron I'm having a nice laugh

proof most teens r gh deficient? they are all still viable studies esp the cardiovascular one

 

[AtrophicPyra]

as you said in your original post hgh shuts down your natural gh production while you are on it so your not just doubling your hgh levels, btw even high dose hgh users will won't even have half the igf levels of an acromegaly patient

btw i already said im taking hgh for bodybuilding purposes not bone growth because im not a retard like you who believes in stuff like that

hgh doesnt mainly build muscle jfl maybe look into anabolic fucking steroids. anyway do u have a before and after pic from when u started hgh and now. and it doesnt shut down completely just reduces it depending on dose maybe shut down

 

[Zagro]

proof most teens r gh deficient? they are all still viable studies esp the cardiovascular one

Yes bro especially the cardiovascular one where its on patients whom secrete more than 100ius daily with insanely oversaturated receptors, you cant even mimic it with rhGH

Proof most teens are not even close to reaching their needed gh is right before your eyes: sleeping late and less is seen as cool, smoking/vaping/drinking/weed is seen as cool, shitty goyslop diet, niggas play sports twice a week and call themselves athletes, most barely reach the healthy amount of daily activity, on screens all day majority is obese/overweight and more

Accept the fucking truth I have spent months researching this

 

[Zagro]

hgh doesnt mainly build muscle jfl maybe look into anabolic fucking steroids. anyway do u have a before and after pic from when u started hgh and now. and it doesnt shut down completely just reduces it depending on dose maybe shut down

It doesn't reduce nor shut it down

 

[AtrophicPyra]

It doesn't reduce nor shut it down

yes it does wtf

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Yes bro especially the cardiovascular one where its on patients whom secrete more than 100ius daily with insanely oversaturated receptors, you cant even mimic it with rhGH

Proof most teens are not even close to reaching their needed gh is right before your eyes: sleeping late and less is seen as cool, smoking/vaping/drinking/weed is seen as cool, shitty goyslop diet, niggas play sports twice a week and call themselves athletes, most barely reach the healthy amount of daily activity, on screens all day majority is obese/overweight and more

Accept the fucking truth I have spent months researching this

ok so u take 16 iu of hgh how old r u how frequent r the doses r they split

 

[Zagro]

yes it does wtf

No it doesn't

See how I didn't prove anything that's basically what you're doing

 

[Zagro]

ok so u take 16 iu of hgh how old r u how frequent r the doses r they split

15->16
"how frequent are the doses" daily???
No it's not split and it shouldn't be but you don't know shit about receptors

 

[AtrophicPyra]

No it doesn't

See how I didn't prove anything that's basically what you're doing

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3080472/ maybe u didnt research for months? how tf do u miss this shit

 

[Arabica]

i can link the studies in pm if you want but most of the shit i have seen says high dose hgh will give u organ overgrowth acromegaly retinopathy, disrupt normal growth in general, suppress your bodys own hgh after u get off of it, carpal tunnel, oh my goodness. unless somebody who is using hgh convinces me otherwise idk bro.

link studies proving me wrong or post ur own experience with hgh and lmk your thoughts

I actually agree most peptides are bad for you finally someone noticed

 

[AtrophicPyra]

15->16
"how frequent are the doses" daily???
No it's not split and it shouldn't be but you don't know shit about receptors

ok explain why it shouldnt be split since u know abt receptors, also 15-16 ur getting enough hgh otherwise if u arnt u would be medically deficent. also have u even seen improvements or benefits or r u just taking it and not seeing shit

 

[Zagro]

ok explain why it shouldnt be split since u know abt receptors, also 15-16 ur getting enough hgh otherwise if u arnt u would be medically deficent. also have u even seen improvements or benefits or r u just taking it and not seeing shit

"Okay now spoonfeed me with info"

 

[ibIameweight]

Also can ascend the fuck out of you so why not take the risk

 

[AtrophicPyra]

"Okay now spoonfeed me with info"

give money to the poor nigga. just asked for before and after results i can get that from anywhere jfl

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Also can ascend the fuck out of you so why not take the risk

organ overgrowth, vascular risk, etc

 

[Ahmed88]

dont listen to these niggers, hgh wont do much for your height since ur probably not gh deficient or of idiopathic short stature and its not the best for muscle building either has way to many sides compared to other drugs that do the same thing, hgh is just a overpiced drug that nigtokers promote to sell to cucked teenagers

 

[0bs]

i can link the studies in pm if you want but most of the shit i have seen says high dose hgh will give u organ overgrowth acromegaly retinopathy, disrupt normal growth in general, suppress your bodys own hgh after u get off of it, carpal tunnel, oh my goodness. unless somebody who is using hgh convinces me otherwise idk bro.

link studies proving me wrong or post ur own experience with hgh and lmk your thoughts

is this ragebait?

Translating your thread: "If you take significant amounts of steroids and hormones you will have side effects."

 

[AtrophicPyra]

"Okay now spoonfeed me with info"

im waiting for the info dump

 

[AtrophicPyra]

dont listen to these niggers, hgh wont do much for your height since ur probably not gh deficient or of idiopathic short stature and its not the best for muscle building either has way to many sides compared to other drugs that do the same thing, hgh is just a overpiced drug that nigtokers promote to sell to cucked teenagers

what do u recommend for muscle building height, peps? im not taking test till growth plates close so forget that

 

[AtrophicPyra]

is this ragebait?

Translating your thread: "If you take significant amounts of steroids and hormones you will have side effects."

overpriced and does nothing signficant for the side effects it brings

 

[Ahmed88]

what do u recommend for muscle building height, peps? im not taking test till growth plates close so forget that

Theres nothing that actually makes u taller except LL, and as for the muscle building if u dont want any hardcore shit u can look into SARMS but dont expect anything crazy

 

[Starborn]

is this ragebait, the duration matter more than the dose 2 iu can fuck u up after years

yes because it is below the average Natural IU of gh so your just supressing yourself.

Dumb fuck you dont know shit. jfl

 

[Lach1234]

No one gives a fuck faggot

 

[iblameniceguy]

btw 90% of hollywood is perma running 2 ius

fr ? for what

 

[India lover 52]

fr ? for what

skin quality and anti aging, some are also running higher doses with other peds

 

[Mom]

i can link the studies in pm if you want but most of the shit i have seen says high dose hgh will give u organ overgrowth acromegaly retinopathy, disrupt normal growth in general, suppress your bodys own hgh after u get off of it, carpal tunnel, oh my goodness. unless somebody who is using hgh convinces me otherwise idk bro.

link studies proving me wrong or post ur own experience with hgh and lmk your thoughts

Dm the studies

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

HGH injecting is near all mantel cope.

The only people its ever been shown to increase size on are virtual midgets with animeic levels of natural hgh.

Its well documented that it will create a shit ton of risk in anyone with normal hgh levels though.