Creatine is not a meme??

[Deleted member 439]

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/creatine-for-muscle-and-strength#section2

Seems legit as fuck tbh
is the bloating and hairloss really that bad which makes it not worth it?
Compared with placebo subjects, creatine subjects demonstrated significantly greater increases in Type I (35% vs 11%), IIA (36% vs 15%), and IIAB (35% vs 6%) muscle fiber cross-sectional areas. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10449017

 

[Deleted member 483]

is the bloating and hairloss really that bad which makes it not worth it?

yes bro. it increased DHT conversion by like 50% in the study they did on it

 

[Deleted member 439]

yes bro. it increased DHT conversion by like 50% in the study they did on it

damn that sucks. If its not long term though I might try it. I only want to get a decent body that I can be lean without looking to skinny. Planning on a 12week bulk with rad140 8mg and creatine (maybe), then if I need more size one more bulk for 12weeks same thing. Then ill drop sarms and creatine and stay lean4life. Good idea bro?

 

[Deleted member 483]

damn that sucks. If its not long term though I might try it. I only want to get a decent body that I can be lean without looking to skinny. Planning on a 12week bulk with rad140 8mg and creatine (maybe), then if I need more size one more bulk for 12weeks same thing. Then ill drop sarms and creatine and stay lean4life. Good idea bro?

idk about peptides bro. if i ever wanted to inject something it would be classic test on low dose, bcuz its studied and everything is known. but ideally you dont want to inject anything man. if you have the frame and BB genetics, natty gymcel is just fine, if you dont have those then it's cope either way with or without PEDs

 

[FatmanO]

Its not worth it imo, but I have been on it for like 3 months

 

[Deleted member 1140]

ask er

 

[Deleted member 439]

Its not worth it imo, but I have been on it for like 3 months

any difference in gains? while doing it and without it?

 

[FatmanO]

any difference in gains? while doing it and without it?

It makes you look bigger but I also noticed my face being a bit more bloated.

It gives you a few extra reps on strenght tho so its still a fine investment

Not gains but strenght which gives you extra gains. Probably 2.5kg more on main lifts each month if you want to speed things up but its not like steroids

 

[mojopin]

It makes you look bigger but I also noticed my face being a bit more bloated.

It gives you a few extra reps on strenght tho so its still a fine investment

Not gains but strenght which gives you extra gains. Probably 2.5kg more on main lifts each month if you want to speed things up but its not like steroids

Bloating was all in your head. Just drink more water and it’s fine. Also jfl at cucks not wanting to increase DHT.

 

[Deleted member 483]

Bloating was all in your head. Just drink more water and it’s fine. Also jfl at cucks not wanting to increase DHT.

 

[Lorsss]

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/creatine-for-muscle-and-strength#section2

Seems legit as fuck tbh
is the bloating and hairloss really that bad which makes it not worth it?
Compared with placebo subjects, creatine subjects demonstrated significantly greater increases in Type I (35% vs 11%), IIA (36% vs 15%), and IIAB (35% vs 6%) muscle fiber cross-sectional areas. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10449017

steroid placebos are stronger than creatine
buy ecdysteroids (like ecdysterone) instead

 

[FatmanO]

Bloating was all in your head. Just drink more water and it’s fine. Also jfl at cucks not wanting to increase DHT.

Its only one study converted on atheltes btw not even normal people. The study is non sufficent

 

[Deleted member 439]

Im going to agree with @freakofnature here.
https://journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/Abstract/2009/09000/Three_Weeks_of_Creatine_Monohydrate.9.aspx
to risky for minimal gains imo

 

[Deleted member 1464]

I stopped using creatine since Im balding, however its true the study/s done on it is terrible. Makes me wonder why its never been recreated....
Does anyone know how much steroids increase DHT by? Creatine increasing DHT by 50% seems a bit..... unbelievable

 

[Tony]

yes i started eating shitton of raw beef recently and my muscles got fuller

 

[Framletgod]

ive been using creatine for 2 years and the only bad things i noticed is the bloating in my face and the waterweight but nothing else

your not going to fucking lose your hair

keep coping faggots

 

[Deleted member 439]

ive been using creatine for 2 years and the only bad things i noticed is the bloating in my face and the waterweight but nothing else

your not going to fucking lose your hair

keep coping faggots

low iq

 

[Vitruvian]

creatine is a form of energy stored directly in the muscle to help push heavy load under 10ish reps. its good but deffinately not required. meat has alot of creatine anyways

 

[Framletgod]

low iq

if your prone to lose your hair then its by age not cause of the creatine

youre going to lose your hair regardless if it is written in your genetics

 

[mojopin]

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Eww I’m not going to risk going bald for “muh masculinity” sweaty, step aside sister, soylent is all I need.

 

[Deleted member 483]

Eww I’m not going to risk going bald for “muh masculinity” sweaty, step aside sister soylent is all I need.
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[mojopin]

Cry for him

 

[Mr manlet]

steroid placebos are stronger than creatine
buy ecdysteroids (like ecdysterone) instead

Ecdysterone is weak compared to turkesterone. You need 4 massive pills to do the job of one turkestone pill and you only get half the results.

Order Turk from tonvara it has a booster as well. Far better than creatine.

 

[Deleted member 685]

yes bro. it increased DHT conversion by like 50% in the study they did on it

This is good, dht is way more powerful than normal t

 

[Framletgod]

he doesnt use any supplements

 

[Cretinous]

Ecdysterone is weak compared to turkesterone. You need 4 massive pills to do the job of one turkestone pill and you only get half the results.

Order Turk from tonvara it has a booster as well. Far better than creatine.

turkesterone is an internet 1.0 meme. We all tried turk, ecdy, etc back in the day, with the promise of the far east "secret". It didnt do shit. Turns out the far east "secret" was just well planned steroid cycles and life long progressive athletic training programs.

 

[Loko88]

he's gonna come for you as you're begging for it

 

[Lorsss]

Ecdysterone is weak compared to turkesterone. You need 4 massive pills to do the job of one turkestone pill and you only get half the results.

Order Turk from tonvara it has a booster as well. Far better than creatine.

thank you for the advice, I will buy turkesterone as soon I finish cutting and start bulking again

 

[Mr manlet]

turkesterone is an internet 1.0 meme. We all tried turk, ecdy, etc back in the day, with the promise of the far east "secret". It didnt do shit. Turns out the far east "secret" was just well planned steroid cycles and life long progressive athletic training programs.

Then your a poor responder.

I've used most natural supplements and nothing comes close to turk.

 

[CupOfCoffee]

It's a meme long term

 

[Mr manlet]

It's a meme long term

Keep coping.

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Keep coping.

I've taken it. It gives a slight increase in strength (didnt notice any muscle mass boost) which then you're reliant on creatine to maintain.

 

[Mr manlet]

I've taken it. It gives a slight increase in strength (didnt notice any muscle mass boost) which then you're reliant on creatine to maintain.

When I'm on cycle I gain at least 30% max output and my muscles stay larger and harder meanwhile I don't get DOMS unless I've really neglected that part of the body but still can workout with it as turk makes recovery time almost non existent.

Even tried not eat much protein for a week while on and still the pain was nothing close even though high protein is a necessity for turk gains as all it does is increase the amount of protein your body can utilize.

Where you going above 2grams of protein per kg of body weight?

 

[Deleted member 439]

When I'm on cycle I gain at least 30% max output and my muscles stay larger and harder meanwhile I don't get DOMS unless I've really neglected that part of the body but still can workout with it as turk makes recovery time almost non existent.

Even tried not eat much protein for a week while on and still the pain was nothing close even though high protein is a necessity for turk gains as all it does is increase the amount of protein your body can utilize.

Where you going above 2grams of protein per kg of body weight?

creatine or turkesterone ?

 

[CupOfCoffee]

turk

what the fuck does this mean

Where you going above 2grams of protein per kg of body weight?

Probably i was eating like a pig and reached 100 kg

 

[Mr manlet]

Turk=turkesterone.

Creatine is in my mass builders so that's always around.

I was recommended Animal M stack and found great results with it but didn't understand why it did so well. I found the only ingredient I hadn't tried yet was turkesterone so bought it from tonvara and got even better results. FAR cheaper than animal stack, 20% of the daily usage price and superior results.

I'm on a lean bulk atm and it's done nicely but I'm gonna do a mass bulk as I'm not getting much mass on my shoulders.

Will post a pic at the end of my bulk phase and then once I'm done with my cut. But 6months ago I was soft as a lady.

Another 5kg of muscle and I'm done.