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- Black males are "incarcerated at a rate more than 6 times higher than white non-Hispanic males ... 2.6 times higher than Hispanic males" - and 28 times more than U.S. Asians (Far East Asians keep than number down; not Arabs or Indians). Black women used to be sent 5-6x more often to prison than white women, but there appear to have been unknown policy changes in the mid 2000s, lowering this number to just 3.7x by 2009.
This does not give the entire picture though, considering there are a lot of different crimes. Therefore it is very useful to have a breakdown per crime per race. At that point the picture looks as follows:
Anno 2024 it turned out to be impossible to find back the above graph in any search engine, to properly document its source. Looking deeper, it appears the reason for this is because it was created by the ultraright American Renaissance magazine for one of its Color of Change reports. Similar to the 2014 graph below, the numbers for 2001 seem to be based on statistics provided by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. The author would have to manually check the Bureau of Justice Statistics numbers to be 100% certain the graphs above above and below are accurate. In time this will be done, maybe. But, looking at other ethnic crime data, at the moment there is no reason to suspect any (major) flaws in them.
- In the 1980-2008 period blacks committed 6 to 7 times as many murders on average as whites with black-on-white homicides being over 3 times more common than white-on-black. During certain periods blacks committed 10 to 11 times as many murders as white people. The jail statistic above for 2001 indicates 8 times as many, which quite perfectly matches the much heightened historical crime rate among black people.
- Other statistics of the Centers for Disease Control and FBI reveal black homicide rates between 7 and 11 times higher than white people. Black teens even commit up to 20 times as many murders as white teens.Latinos/Hispanics commit on average approximately 3.5 times as many murders as whites.
- FBI data from 2013 reveals that black people kill other blacks at a rate 5x higher than white people kill white people. However, the same data shows that black people kill white people 12x more often than the other way around.
- Data from the New York Police Department shows that black people in 2008 were 86x more often involved in "shooting incidents", in which at least one person was wounded, than white people. New York City hispanics were 18x more often involved in such incidents than whites. Granted, New York City involves a lot of white people with money and a lot of black and hispanic people who do not - but still, it's striking to say the least.
Usually the ratios for "shooting incidents" aren't as large as they were in 2008. Whites usually are in the 1.7-2.4% range and blacks in the around 74-75%. As time went by, the white and black percentage in New York City dropped a few percent at the expense of Arab/Asian immigration, with the Latino percentage remaining stable. Despite that, in particular the Latino/hispanic crime in New York City had risen by 2023 with regard to "shooting incidents". In 2023 Black people "only" were 45x more often involved in shooting incidents than whites versus "only" 14x more for Latinos/hispanics:
Shooting incidents seem to largely be within race, likely - if this author had to speculate - due to gang warfare. It also seems that if a white person is shot at by black or Latino person, that the result usually is death - because with "murder" and "non negligent manslaughter" all of a sudden there are about double the white victims versus perpetrators. Maybe it's an indication that when you resist a robbery, you have a pretty good chance of dying:
Looking at major robberies of over $1,000 ("grand larcency") in New York City, we in particular find that low crime white and Asian people are being victimized by Latinos and especially blacks. That makes sense, because primarily these groups have money. We also see that a lot of white people do not necessarily mind a robbery, but are much more hesistant to shoot people, even if only to wound:
In 2014 the ultraright American Renaissance magazine analyzed the New York Police Department's crime numbers for that year. Without double checking any of the numbers, because they seem similar enough to what this author has calculated for other years, the ones the magazine published are as follows:
The trend with black people, as we also see in other places, seems to be that the more violent the crime, the more they are overrepresented compared to whites. That is something that is hidden by almost all western countries, who very often at most only publish "all crime" ethnic statistics.
For those who want to check some of the above numbers for themselves, here are a number of relevant New York Police Department reports:
- 2008, NYPD, 'Crime and Enforcement Activity Report'.
- 2014, NYPD, 'Crime and Enforcement Activity Report'.
- 2017, NYPD, 'Crime and Enforcement Activity Report'.
- 2023, NYPD, 'Crime and Enforcement Activity Report'.
- Black-on-white robberies are 12 times more common than white-on-black. 2012-2013 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, released in 2015, reveal that blacks are 27 times more likely to commit violent crimes against white people than in reverse. Black-on-white violent crimes caused 560,600 victims compared to 99,403 vice versa. That's 5.64 times more, but blacks only constitute 13.2% of the population with whites 62.1%, so 5.64 x 4.7 (62.1/13.2) gives us 27 times more violent black-on-white crime than white-on-black.
- A 2018 Bureau of Justice Statistics report reveal 42x higher black-on-white violent crime numbers than in reverse and 6x higher hispanic-on-white violent crime than in reverse:
Not seen: "Asian" crime, mainly due to Far East Asians, still is far lower than hispanic and black.
- A November 1992 Bureau of Justice Statistics report entitled 'Patterns of Robbery and Burglary in 9 States, 1984-88', on page 1, reads:
"The nine States - Alaska, California, Delaware, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia - voluntarily submitted data under the Offender-Based Transaction Statistics (OBTS) program. ... Most arrested for robbery were black (63%), and most arrested for burglary, white (64%)."
These numbers do make sense: the more violence and less thinking involved, the more black people tend to be overrepresented. We have to guess an enormous amount here though, because it's a tedious process to figure out the demographics of each state for the time period given. At the time blacks consisted 12% of the whole U.S. population versus 78% white and 8% Hispanic/Latino. The states in question seem to have a lower black percentage though at the time, so 78 : 12 = 6.5x might well be an underestimation. If we assume 100% - 63% (black robbery) - 8% (estimated Latino and other robbery) that gives us 29% of robbery arrests having been white. That would give us a ratio of 2.17x (63%/29%) for robbery. 6.5 x 2.17 comes down to 14x black overrepresentation in robbery, which very much happens to fall in line with incarceration rates for robbery of 13-15x higher than white in the 2011-2013 period.
- June 2, 2020, Wall Street Journal, 'The Myth of Systemic Police Racism; Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there's no evidence of widespread racial bias.':
"In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population."
Without seeing the original data and with the issue of (more criminal) "hispanic whites" / Latinos lobbed in with whites in official statistics, this will again force us to do a lot of estimating. The white population of the U.S. had dropped to 60.5% at this point, with blacks constituting about 13.5%, and Latinos 18%. 60.5/13.5 = 4.5x ratio for population. Now let's say whites committed 20% of robberies. That would be a 3x ratio for the crime. 4.5 x 3 = 13.5x more robbery for blacks than whites. It could be a little lower or higher, but all in all this falls in line with incarceration rates for robbery of 13-15x higher than white in the 2011-2013 period.
- Looking at Bureau of Justice Statistics data for 2008 (as a general example) , we find that U.S. blacks are 5.5x more likely to be involved in incidents of gang rape.
These numbers actually still are quite low compared to black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean into Europe, which might have a lot to do with the fact that these days rapists, not just child rapists, are despised in the American prison system in particular and are actively targeted by black and Latino gangs for murder, torture, or at the very least a good beat down.
Not sure to what extent Hispanics have been labeled "white" in this study.
- A 1999 study published in The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice involved an analysis of eight past prison rape studies dating back to 1968, 1976, 1978, 1980, 1982, 1984 and 1990. All of them concluded that A) blacks commit about 13 times more prison rape than whites; B) almost always target young white males; C) do so out of racist motivation; and D) generally deny during interviews that their own race is overrepresented. The report concluded:
The percentages (but not absolute numbers) for black rape declined as Latinos started entering America's prison system in the 1970s. Already in 1980 it was concluded that Latinos too rape whites at much higher frequency in prison and with the same racist motivations. The 1980 study put black rape at 80%, hispanic rape at 14% and white rape at 6%. A 1982 study by different researchers concluded:"The issue of blacks exclusively raping whites has been substantially documented since the 1960s, well prior to the overcrowding [and] long before the emergence of prison gangs. ... Whites continue to be raped more severely and frequently and at a disproportionate rate than any other racial or ethnic group. ... The victims are almost always young white prisoners. ...
"These sexual 'conquests' serve to establish [black's] status and dominance... Their answers were usually 'now it's their turn'."
"It is unusual for either black or Chicano youngsters to be turned out [especially by whites]. The blacks and Mexicans-Americans tend to look out for their own and will not turn out one of their own race." 48
There have been more studies. A 1989 one in which black and white inmates were interviewed aimed to find out "why African American inmates chose whites as their victims in a sexual assault." Four more prison studies dating to 2000, 2003, 2005 and 2012 all concluded that "black men are disproportionately involved as sexual assault aggressors." 50 Meanwhile, some new studies have been trying to shift attention towards "black victims" instead of "black perpetrators", similar to what is being done with murder rates.
Still, the numbers are so obviously stacked against blacks that even modern, extremist, "anti-racism" crusaders educated at Eastern Establishment universities as Princeton concur that the prevailance of black-on-white prison rape is "at least partially rooted in statistical reality." This is coming from Eastern Establishment professors screaming and raging about the fact that in April 1981 a judge wouldn't sent a slender-build, apparently gay men to the 90%-black Rikers Island prison, because he "would be immediately subject to homosexual rape and sodomy and to brutalities from fellow prisoners as make the imagination recoil in horror."
Arguably the defendant deserved community service and a hefty fine to be paid to a black police officer he allowed his German Shepherd to attack. Agree or disagree, the point is, these numbers roughly correspond with those found out in society - and racial segragation in prison can prevent an incredible amount of misery, particularly for native white inmates. - June 6, 2016: 16-year-old wannabe gangbanger Kane Millsaps put on brass knuckles and violently KO-ed an unsuspecting 12-year-old white kid on a skateboard in front of his female friends, and then continued to crush all his teeth while he was KO. The national media was silent.
- Turns out, black people consider their own ethnic group more racist against white people than white people consider themselves racist against black people. 53
- In addition, there's evidence that in American ghettos there's quite a bit of hate against whites, with random attacks happening largely or purely based on skin color. It has even become a trend for the New Black Panther Party and various affiliates to call for violence against whites, including the need to "kill some crackers [and] kill some of their babies."
- June 2, 2020, Wall Street Journal, 'The Myth of Systemic Police Racism; Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there's no evidence of widespread racial bias.':
"In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. ...
"A 2015 Justice Department analysis of the Philadelphia Police Department found that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects. Research by Harvard economist Roland G. Fryer Jr. also found no evidence of racial discrimination in shootings. ...
"On Memorial Day weekend in Chicago alone, 10 African-Americans were killed in drive-by shootings. ... Police shootings are not the reason that blacks die of homicide at eight times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined; criminal violence is." - The following compilation shows the 2015 study in question. Set up after the Black lives matter controversy, the study revealed that black police officers are twice as often involved in incorrectly shooting black suspects than their white colleagues, and that Hispanic police officers tend to do that 3x more often. In other words, there indeed is no evidence of any "white supremacy" among white police officers.
- An August 17, 2016 look at the Los Angeles police department’s complete most wanted list reveals 220 individuals. There are literally only 4 Caucasians on the list compared to 26 blacks, about 175 Hispanics and a few remaining Asians.
- Another interesting statistic, albeit of less importance, is that blacks have the highest percentage of children born out of wedlock: 72%. Hispanics follow at 53% and whites at 29%. The average in liberal north-western Europe today is about 45%, with Scandinavia having the highest average of about 52%. The remote Icelanders take second place after American blacks at 66%.
- Looking at the latest-available welfare numbers from the Center for Immigration Studies, 55% of black households receive welfare and 23% of white households. Thus black households receive 2.4x more often welware than white ones. Cash assistance to black households is 3.1x higher than white ones. 56
The 30% number here includes "native" blacks. Native whites sit at 23%. Central America is primarily Native Indian while South American countries as Argentina, Chile and Uruguay are over 90% Spanish white.
Apart from black households, it appears that immigrants of Central America in particular are taxing the United States' already questionable welfare system. It would be nice to have additional numbers on welfare, mainly involving long-term and short-term beneficiaries. In the Netherlands, for example, only about 4% of native white people are long-term recipients while another relatively small percentage involve short-term ones. Compare this to Dutch Somalians who are 70% long-term unemployed and maybe another 10-20% that is short-term unemployed. It appears similarly high numbers go for other (Sub-Saharan) African immigrations.It would also be interesting to have regional data, especially on America's deep south where not only the highest black population numbers are, but also the most amount unemployment, the lowest IQs and, as a result, the greatest amount of division. In addition, because crime numbers among U.S. blacks are so high, especially for robberies, it would also be interesting to see how many estimated blacks (and whites) are not on welfare due to criminal practices.
