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I will have enough money to start this in just under a year when Im 18.
- Obtain baseline labs: LFT, U&E, CBC, TSH/T3/T4/TPo, Test, Estradiol, Prolactin, SHBG, CRP, IGF1, IGF BP3, HBa1C, LDL/HDL cholestrol and triglycerides, creatinine, BUN, PSA, somatostatin, TNF-alpha, IGF BP5, procollagen type 1 N-terminal propeptide, C-terminal telopeptide of type 1 collagen, and N-terminal telopeptide of type 1 collagen3
- Abnormality in bone markers/igf binding proteins/TNF-alpha -> I will pay for consulation with endcrinologist / GP, others I can interepret and manage myself as long as they arent dangerously deranged. Important to note IGF BP5 and TNF-alpha inhibit the action of IGF so it is important to get them tested
- I may have subclinical hypothyroidism currently, this will be good in the future, If I still have it, then I will ask for thryoid replacement hormones.
How could i get these tested? Most of these are affordable to pay privately, however, some are insanely overpriced as only a few lab tests them (IGF1) or just impossible to find anywhere (IGF1 BP3, BP5 and somatostatin) so I might have to get a private GP and ask them to refer me to get these blood tests, I contacted a private hospital to ask about costs but they wont say without a refferal. Unfortunatly we dont have discountedlabs in the UK. These seem like very specalised blood tests so they may ask an insane price or just not do them in the UK. The GP may also refuse to order these tests which would be really annoying, you guys dont realise how lucky you are in america to have so many private labs.
- Even if growth plates shut i will still try due to growth plates in spine being open and I will hate myself if I dont try
KY19382, dose to be determined if leg growth plates are open, otherwise will not use. This is a research chemical that inhibits the CXXC5 gene and has been shown to increase tibal length in mice.
HGH, 8-10iu daily before bed. Probably going to buy from catcafe
Anastrazole, 1mg daily, dose increased/decreases based on repeat Estradiol tests. Aiming for estradiol to be <10. I have seen in ISS studies they nuke this all the way down to 0 but I will be in 1st year of med school(in UK we start this at 18) when I start this so need to keep my brain alive.
CJC-1295 DAC: 2.5mg twice weekly before bed, to maintain 24h secretion of GH.
IGF1 LR3: Dosed daily, 50-100mcg, dose adjused based on serum IGF levels.
Levothryoxine: Dosed daily, dose based on thryoid hormone levels, aiming for 20% increase above normal range. Decrease if symptoms appear
Insulin: Keep it on hand incase I need to use it, will get pharma grade.
Glucose gel: Same as above because insulin resistance/blood glucose levels could get fucked up
Supplemtary medications:
Calcium, VitD, VitK2, Glucosamine, Magnesium chloride (+bisglycinate for sleep), L-arginine, L-lysine, multivitamin
Supporting activities:
I estimate the cost of this, based on current prices to be approximetly 2000-3000GBP ($2.5k to $3.7k) for a 6 month cycle, with most of this being spent on medical monitoring. If I can find a good lab or a lab that actually does some of the specalised blood tests without needing a doctor, this will decrease very quickly. This current cost is very close to my max budget.
- I have had vitamin deficiences at younger age
- Current height 169.5cm (5 foot 6.5) without shoes measured by doctor
- already taller than both parents
- all men in mothers side of family 6ft+
- vegetarian growing up
"why wait till 18?" I get trust fund money at 18 i cant afford any of this rn
ANYONE IN THE UK WHO HAS HEIGHTMAXXED PLS TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND AFFORDABLE BLOOD TESTS! Currently looking at medicheck and thebloodlab compared to USA prices they are both insanely overpriced
First:
- Get xray of wrist and legs to see if growth plates are open- Obtain baseline labs: LFT, U&E, CBC, TSH/T3/T4/TPo, Test, Estradiol, Prolactin, SHBG, CRP, IGF1, IGF BP3, HBa1C, LDL/HDL cholestrol and triglycerides, creatinine, BUN, PSA, somatostatin, TNF-alpha, IGF BP5, procollagen type 1 N-terminal propeptide, C-terminal telopeptide of type 1 collagen, and N-terminal telopeptide of type 1 collagen3
- Abnormality in bone markers/igf binding proteins/TNF-alpha -> I will pay for consulation with endcrinologist / GP, others I can interepret and manage myself as long as they arent dangerously deranged. Important to note IGF BP5 and TNF-alpha inhibit the action of IGF so it is important to get them tested
- I may have subclinical hypothyroidism currently, this will be good in the future, If I still have it, then I will ask for thryoid replacement hormones.
How could i get these tested? Most of these are affordable to pay privately, however, some are insanely overpriced as only a few lab tests them (IGF1) or just impossible to find anywhere (IGF1 BP3, BP5 and somatostatin) so I might have to get a private GP and ask them to refer me to get these blood tests, I contacted a private hospital to ask about costs but they wont say without a refferal. Unfortunatly we dont have discountedlabs in the UK. These seem like very specalised blood tests so they may ask an insane price or just not do them in the UK. The GP may also refuse to order these tests which would be really annoying, you guys dont realise how lucky you are in america to have so many private labs.
- Even if growth plates shut i will still try due to growth plates in spine being open and I will hate myself if I dont try
The stack:
Main drugs:KY19382, dose to be determined if leg growth plates are open, otherwise will not use. This is a research chemical that inhibits the CXXC5 gene and has been shown to increase tibal length in mice.
HGH, 8-10iu daily before bed. Probably going to buy from catcafe
Anastrazole, 1mg daily, dose increased/decreases based on repeat Estradiol tests. Aiming for estradiol to be <10. I have seen in ISS studies they nuke this all the way down to 0 but I will be in 1st year of med school(in UK we start this at 18) when I start this so need to keep my brain alive.
CJC-1295 DAC: 2.5mg twice weekly before bed, to maintain 24h secretion of GH.
IGF1 LR3: Dosed daily, 50-100mcg, dose adjused based on serum IGF levels.
Levothryoxine: Dosed daily, dose based on thryoid hormone levels, aiming for 20% increase above normal range. Decrease if symptoms appear
Insulin: Keep it on hand incase I need to use it, will get pharma grade.
Glucose gel: Same as above because insulin resistance/blood glucose levels could get fucked up
Supplemtary medications:
Calcium, VitD, VitK2, Glucosamine, Magnesium chloride (+bisglycinate for sleep), L-arginine, L-lysine, multivitamin
Supporting activities:
- Applying traction on the ankles before sleeping
- Sprinting 3x a week
- Heavy weight lifting in the gym
- Biking and slowly increasing seat height
- High protein diet, 2-3g/kg of bodyweight. high as I can tolerate, ensuring meeting 100% NRV of all essential ammino acid
Medical monitoring:
- Cardiac ultrasound at 2 months, then every 3 months (assesing for ventricular hypertrophy)
- Repeat following blood tests monthly: LFT, U&E, HbA1C, LDL/HDL cholestrol and triglycerides, , TSH/T3/T4, IGF1, CRP, Estradiol, Test, SHBG, HCG (IGF LR3 may be faked with HCG)
- Pulse oximetry & blood pressure checks daily
- ECG weekly (free as I will probably have access to this at med school and you can post on reddit pretending and you will get doctors analysing it for you)
- Blood glucose checked daily, levels taken in morning and 4 hours after eating a meal
- Test IGF1 levels 5 days in, and 10 days in initially to ensure product is legit and body is getting a good respsone to it.
- Some sort of cognitive monitoring to make sure low estrogen dosent fuck up brain
When I will stop:
- If ventricular hypertrophy develops
- Thyroid gets fucked
- Become too dumb cuz of low estrogen, might just stop AI and conintue with rest tho
- If there has been no height increase after 6 months and growth plates are closed
- Serious life threatening side effects occur
- My ideal height is 5"10, if by some miricle I grow 3.5 inches, I will stop, as the risks wont be worth it for me anymore, realistically I am expecting about an inch in growth
I estimate the cost of this, based on current prices to be approximetly 2000-3000GBP ($2.5k to $3.7k) for a 6 month cycle, with most of this being spent on medical monitoring. If I can find a good lab or a lab that actually does some of the specalised blood tests without needing a doctor, this will decrease very quickly. This current cost is very close to my max budget.
Other info + prior medical history:
- I used ashwhaganda which caused borderline high TSH (unknown what baseline is)- I have had vitamin deficiences at younger age
- Current height 169.5cm (5 foot 6.5) without shoes measured by doctor
- already taller than both parents
- all men in mothers side of family 6ft+
- vegetarian growing up
"why wait till 18?" I get trust fund money at 18 i cant afford any of this rn
ANYONE IN THE UK WHO HAS HEIGHTMAXXED PLS TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND AFFORDABLE BLOOD TESTS! Currently looking at medicheck and thebloodlab compared to USA prices they are both insanely overpriced
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