CS is an ever learning degree

[Jason Voorhees]

One thing I’ve realized after grinding in CS for a few years it’s nothing like mech or civilbwhere the learning curve flattens out post-grad. In CS, you’re never done leveling up and learning.

Tech sprints forward at warp speed new frameworks, languages, architectures, and paradigms drop every year. Your degree is nothing more than a fancy ticket for networking and opening doors, but it won’t hand you real world skills on a platter. Top schools like Harvard or Stanford still teach HCI or compiler design with legacy systems, and DevOps tooling is barely on the radar in most curricula. Academia can’t keep up with the meta shift, so you HAVE to self-teach via side projects, bootcamps, workshops, or hackathons.

Employment gaps are a more or less a death sentence in this field. recruiters smell stagnation from a mile away.Compare that to mech or civil master thermodynamics or structural design once, and those principles hold for decades In CS, fundamentals are just the start You gotta keep stacking skills non stop.

That’s the double edged sword it's fun when you’re in the flow, but draining if you’re not obsessed. I've seen grads from elite unis flop hard if they coasted on lectures without grinding personal projects or open-source. You need to *love computers and eat problem-solving for breakfast. If that’s not your vibe, you’ll burn out fast and regret it. I've seen many casuals come into CS and fail to get jobs and do well because they were in it only for the money. There is huge money to be made ofc. But that comes with large asterisk

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@User28823 @mvpisafaggot420 @gooner23 @4ever @TechnoBoss

 

[User28823]

That’s the double edged sword it's fun when you’re in the flow, but draining if you’re not obsessed.

 

[Mogger2000]

One thing I’ve realized after grinding in CS for a few years it’s nothing like mech or civilbwhere the learning curve flattens out post-grad. In CS, you’re never done leveling up and learning.

Tech sprints forward at warp speed new frameworks, languages, architectures, and paradigms drop every year. Your degree is nothing more than a fancy ticket for networking and opening doors, but it won’t hand you real world skills on a platter. Top schools like Harvard or Stanford still teach HCI or compiler design with legacy systems, and DevOps tooling is barely on the radar in most curricula. Academia can’t keep up with the meta shift, so you HAVE to self-teach via side projects, bootcamps, workshops, or hackathons.

Employment gaps are a more or less a death sentence in this field. recruiters smell stagnation from a mile away.Compare that to mech or civil master thermodynamics or structural design once, and those principles hold for decades In CS, fundamentals are just the start You gotta keep stacking skills non stop.

That’s the double edged sword it's fun when you’re in the flow, but draining if you’re not obsessed. I've seen grads from elite unis flop hard if they coasted on lectures without grinding personal projects or open-source. You need to *love computers and eat problem-solving for breakfast. If that’s not your vibe, you’ll burn out fast and regret it. I've seen many casuals come into CS and fail to get jobs and do well because they were in it only for the money. There is huge money to be made ofc. But that comes with large asterisk

try pure math

 

[decadouche57]

Looksmax.org btw

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

One thing I’ve realized after grinding in CS for a few years it’s nothing like mech or civilbwhere the learning curve flattens out post-grad. In CS, you’re never done leveling up and learning.

Tech sprints forward at warp speed new frameworks, languages, architectures, and paradigms drop every year. Your degree is nothing more than a fancy ticket for networking and opening doors, but it won’t hand you real world skills on a platter. Top schools like Harvard or Stanford still teach HCI or compiler design with legacy systems, and DevOps tooling is barely on the radar in most curricula. Academia can’t keep up with the meta shift, so you HAVE to self-teach via side projects, bootcamps, workshops, or hackathons.

Employment gaps are a more or less a death sentence in this field. recruiters smell stagnation from a mile away.Compare that to mech or civil master thermodynamics or structural design once, and those principles hold for decades In CS, fundamentals are just the start You gotta keep stacking skills non stop.

That’s the double edged sword it's fun when you’re in the flow, but draining if you’re not obsessed. I've seen grads from elite unis flop hard if they coasted on lectures without grinding personal projects or open-source. You need to *love computers and eat problem-solving for breakfast. If that’s not your vibe, you’ll burn out fast and regret it. I've seen many casuals come into CS and fail to get jobs and do well because they were in it only for the money. There is huge money to be made ofc. But that comes with large asterisk

legit, i went to a really good math college and ALL of the programming-related classes were fucking useless (or too easy). except for one with this guy that laid the foundation for czech cybernetics back in the communist era, he was super cool and extremely knowledgeable plus the class was for like 12 people. 90% of the time it was just me asking this guy questions about low-level python and how the project works overall bc he is a contributor.

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

Looksmax.org btw

offtopic btw nigger

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Looksmax.org btw

Offtopic tho. And there's already plenty of discourse on surgeries etc something for a change

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

try pure math

r u studying/working as a researcher? i didnt know it was this dynamic tbh

 

[Jason Voorhees]

legit, i went to a really good math college and ALL of the programming-related classes were fucking useless (or too easy). except for one with this guy that laid the foundation for czech cybernetics back in the communist era, he was super cool and extremely knowledgeable plus the class was for like 12 people. 90% of the time it was just me asking this guy questions about low-level python and how the project works overall bc he is a contributor.

CS is fundamentally different from a traditional degree imo. It moves too fast for traditional class room style leaning.

 

[Mogger2000]

r u studying/working as a researcher? i didnt know it was this dynamic tbh

no but im doing differential geometry/topology and group theory/algebra this sem as part of an undergraduate degree which are classified as pure math subjects

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

CS is fundamentally different from a traditional degree imo. It moved too fast for traditional class room style leaning.

i mean tbf the interface changes a lot but most of the underlying concepts remain the same. but even learning new interfaces is legit hard asf, llms are kinda helping smooth this over tho

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

no but im doing differential geometry/topology and group theory/algebra this sem as part of an undergraduate degree which are classified as pure math subjects

those arent easy classes but theyre not necessarily ever-learning unlike cs

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Is that life fuel for noobs with no prior experience? Since in theory you're not at a big disadvantage compared to the OGs who've been doing it for years, as the technology you're working with is constantly evolving (so everyone's learning from scratch in a sense). Or am I interpreting it wrong

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i mean tbf the interface changes a lot but most of the underlying concepts remain the same. but even learning new interfaces is legit hard asf, llms are kinda helping smooth this over tho

True a lot of the concepts are just revisions and better ways of doing the same thing. Like data structures algorithms, oops concepts like abstraction, polymorphism etc all exist but here are always better more efficient ways of implementing all of it

 

[Justakid]

Electrical engineering mogs cuz u still have to learn to code, and can get Cs jobs while also having access to EE jobs

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Electrical engineering mogs cuz u still have to learn to code, and can get Cs jobs while also having access to EE jobs

@imontheloose

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Is that life fuel for noobs with no prior experience? Since in theory you're not at a big disadvantage compared to the OGs who've been doing it for years, as the technology you're working with is constantly evolving (so everyone's learning from scratch in a sense). Or am I interpreting it wrong

Correct this is one of the reasons it's not uncommon to see people who never stepped foot into a university getting hired to do these jobs but to be taken seriously you still need a degree and work experience. It's likes a sub conscious thing that recruiters favour for.

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

Is that life fuel for noobs with no prior experience? Since in theory you're not at a big disadvantage compared to the OGs who've been doing it for years, as the technology you're working with is constantly evolving (so everyone's learning from scratch in a sense). Or am I interpreting it wrong

i mean not really, like i posted above. fundamentally things dont really changes, but the way you build or interact with things (i.e. interfaces) changes a lot. but thats only in a minority of software companies, most companies are using LEGACY ASF tools. youll see 20+ year old php versions on a regular basis. so at the top companies things change a lot but most normal sw companies are using ancient bloatware that they can sell to retarded clients for a massive markup

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

i mean not really, like i posted above. fundamentally things dont really changes, but the way you build or interact with things (i.e. interfaces) changes a lot. but thats only in a minority of software companies, most companies are using LEGACY ASF tools. youll see 20+ year old php versions on a regular basis. so at the top companies things change a lot but most normal sw companies are using ancient bloatware that they can sell to retarded clients for a massive markup

but gaining the necessary experience for being hired can be done at home so it's much easier to enter the field. thats why you see people without uni degrees getting hired

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i mean not really, like i posted above. fundamentally things dont really changes, but the way you build or interact with things (i.e. interfaces) changes a lot. but thats only in a minority of software companies, most companies are using LEGACY ASF tools. youll see 20+ year old php versions on a regular basis. so at the top companies things change a lot but most normal sw companies are using ancient bloatware that they can sell to retarded clients for a massive markup

I've seen some banking and government websites legit run on 1970s systems like COBOL and sheet

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

for instance

but gaining the necessary experience for being hired can be done at home so it's much easier to enter the field. thats why you see people without uni degrees getting hired

in prague theres a pretty big shortage of sw engineers right now so you can EASILY land a junior dev position without a uni degree if youre good/smart

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

I've seen some banking and government websites legit run on 1970s systems like COBOL and sheet

yeah, the whole banking system is hanging by a thread on 1970s cobol systems that NOBODY understands lol

 

[amp]

One thing I’ve realized after grinding in CS for a few years it’s nothing like mech or civilbwhere the learning curve flattens out post-grad. In CS, you’re never done leveling up and learning.

Tech sprints forward at warp speed new frameworks, languages, architectures, and paradigms drop every year. Your degree is nothing more than a fancy ticket for networking and opening doors, but it won’t hand you real world skills on a platter. Top schools like Harvard or Stanford still teach HCI or compiler design with legacy systems, and DevOps tooling is barely on the radar in most curricula. Academia can’t keep up with the meta shift, so you HAVE to self-teach via side projects, bootcamps, workshops, or hackathons.

Employment gaps are a more or less a death sentence in this field. recruiters smell stagnation from a mile away.Compare that to mech or civil master thermodynamics or structural design once, and those principles hold for decades In CS, fundamentals are just the start You gotta keep stacking skills non stop.

That’s the double edged sword it's fun when you’re in the flow, but draining if you’re not obsessed. I've seen grads from elite unis flop hard if they coasted on lectures without grinding personal projects or open-source. You need to *love computers and eat problem-solving for breakfast. If that’s not your vibe, you’ll burn out fast and regret it. I've seen many casuals come into CS and fail to get jobs and do well because they were in it only for the money. There is huge money to be made ofc. But that comes with large asterisk

i did not read most of this. but do you think if i slave away studying cs/ai/cybsercurity for 4 years all day nothing else. then i can achieve a lot of money. i want to just go all-in slave mode on something. hard time deciding what to do. as you said its never ending but if i start today and lock in then could outpace others

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i did not read most of this. but do you think if i slave away studying cs/ai/cybsercurity for 4 years all day nothing else. then i can achieve a lot of money. i want to just go all-in slave mode on something. hard time deciding what to do. as you said its never ending but if i start today and lock in then could outpace others

Yes and unless you are in uni. You don't even need 4 years you can learn MERN stack and get hired also. There are surprisingly a lot of openings for MERN stack Devs

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i did not read most of this. but do you think if i slave away studying cs/ai/cybsercurity for 4 years all day nothing else. then i can achieve a lot of money. i want to just go all-in slave mode on something. hard time deciding what to do. as you said its never ending but if i start today and lock in then could outpace others

Also AI and cybersecurity are senior roles imo. You need multiple years of experience to get hired into Cybersec and dat scientist roles. They aren't what an entry level person should Target imo.

 

[Justakid]

@imontheloose

Whyd u tag him

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

i did not read most of this. but do you think if i slave away studying cs/ai/cybsercurity for 4 years all day nothing else. then i can achieve a lot of money. i want to just go all-in slave mode on something. hard time deciding what to do. as you said its never ending but if i start today and lock in then could outpace others

for sure. if your starting point is in maths you'll have an easy time picking it up. try looking into ML,data science stuff since it's high-value asf and fits your existing skills. really nail down things like data types and other language basics tho otherwise your work will be garbage even if you understand it theoretically. check out this playlist by statquest and/or this one by 31b1. once youre better at this look at various ml techniques shown in Advances in Financial Machine Learning. its a really sick book showing actual applications of algorithms used in quantitative finance. @Jason Voorhees you might also enjoy it

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Whyd u tag him

He's an electrical engineer

 

[Justakid]

He's an electrical engineer

Mirin

I wanna be one too when I get older

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

Also AI and cybersecurity are senior roles imo. You need multiple years of experience to get hired into Cybersec and dat scientist roles. They aren't what an entry level person should Target imo.

yeah but he could start as a data analyst or something. or just a junior dev and then get hired for data shit internally i think

 

[amp]

for sure. if your starting point is in maths you'll have an easy time picking it up. try looking into ML,data science stuff since it's high-value asf and fits your existing skills. really nail down things like data types and other language basics tho otherwise your work will be garbage even if you understand it theoretically. check out this playlist by statquest and/or this one by 31b1. once youre better at this look at various ml techniques shown in Advances in Financial Machine Learning. its a really sick book showing actual applications of algorithms used in quantitative finance. @Jason Voorhees you might also enjoy it

holy shit thank you guys

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

holy shit thank you guys

if you wanna start with python from the basics. with project-based learning try out this book: https://automatetheboringstuff.com/ (it's 100% free) . it looks like a fun intro for beginners where you dont have to keep asking yourself wtf am i actually learning all this for. good lucj

 

[Jason Voorhees]

yeah but he could start as a data analyst or something. or just a junior dev and then get hired for data shit internally i think

Imo ML is one of the few fields in tech where degrees and experience do hold credit. Most people that get hired into those roles are seniors Devs or people with masters and PhDs. If you want these roles it's not a bad idea to go to university and get a masters or even PhD degree since it holds merit.

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

Imo ML is one of the few fields in tech where degrees and experience do hold credit. Most people that get hired into those roles are seniors Devs or people with masters and PhDs. If you want these roles it's not a bad idea to go to university and get a masters or even PhD degree since it holds merit.

true. data scientist in the original meaning meant an actual scientist (i.e. with a phd) being hired into a company to help work with it. the overlap of business and science used to be much smaller so it deserved its own term ig

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Saint Casanova @buddhistking

 

[amp]

if you wanna start with python from the basics. with project-based learning try out this book: https://automatetheboringstuff.com/ (it's 100% free) . it looks like a fun intro for beginners where you dont have to keep asking yourself wtf am i actually learning all this for. good lucj

honestly i was setting up to go into accounting/finance -> then into entrepreneurship

i wonder if i should switch paths. or maybe i can do cs as well. a second degree. or just learn all this shit on my own. i obviously consider myself young. and dont really know how the job market works. cs is seen as no jobs. but when i look at blind the website where most of these high paying salary job people hangout i get envious and think i can do it too.

its all in my hands. might hunt for a mentor as well.

i was also going to start consulting on my own online but thats just something seperate as well. maybe i just need to narrow my focus into one thing. but i do think my jack of all trades may work but what im trying to do.

please advise me on my goals or my paths because yeah im lost and dont know as much i think.

i badly want my own succesful business one day so much to the point that i think i will be able to look back on messages like this and laugh and smile at the progress i made and where i came from.

tldr: lost in life, should i really listen to others or try to explore and do my own thing, i have deep desires to achieve success, but lack the focus and clarity on what to pursue/go all in on

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

honestly i was setting up to go into accounting/finance -> then into entrepreneurship

i wonder if i should switch paths. or maybe i can do cs as well. a second degree. or just learn all this shit on my own. i obviously consider myself young. and dont really know how the job market works. cs is seen as no jobs. but when i look at blind the website where most of these high paying salary job people hangout i get envious and think i can do it too.

its all in my hands. might hunt for a mentor as well.

i was also going to start consulting on my own online but thats just something seperate as well. maybe i just need to narrow my focus into one thing. but i do think my jack of all trades may work but what im trying to do.

please advise me on my goals or my paths because yeah im lost and dont know as much i think.

i badly want my own succesful business one day so much to the point that i think i will be able to look back on messages like this and laugh and smile at the progress i made and where i came from.

tldr: lost in life, should i really listen to others or try to explore and do my own thing, i have deep desires to achieve success, but lack the focus and clarity on what to pursue/go all in on

yeah, nailing down what you should start with or get into is really hard. idk about other things but if you wanna get into computer-science or business overall i suggest you try building asap i.e. learn the basics and try building something with that knowledge. always think about scalability business/technology-wise, but focus on the essentials, create no bullshit, useful demos (MVPs). i think if you keep exploring you'll nail down a niche where you can make really good money, there's a ton of opportunity but it's generally hidden in niches. my roommate works 4 remote coding jobs at once bc he found companies where he's maintaining legacy systems that nobody else undestands and that just work on their own, with the companies periodically requiring small changes here-and-there. he works reasonable hours 8-12 hours per day and rakes in top 0.1% income for my country (cz) at 23

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

honestly i was setting up to go into accounting/finance -> then into entrepreneurship

i wonder if i should switch paths. or maybe i can do cs as well. a second degree. or just learn all this shit on my own. i obviously consider myself young. and dont really know how the job market works. cs is seen as no jobs. but when i look at blind the website where most of these high paying salary job people hangout i get envious and think i can do it too.

its all in my hands. might hunt for a mentor as well.

i was also going to start consulting on my own online but thats just something seperate as well. maybe i just need to narrow my focus into one thing. but i do think my jack of all trades may work but what im trying to do.

please advise me on my goals or my paths because yeah im lost and dont know as much i think.

i badly want my own succesful business one day so much to the point that i think i will be able to look back on messages like this and laugh and smile at the progress i made and where i came from.

tldr: lost in life, should i really listen to others or try to explore and do my own thing, i have deep desires to achieve success, but lack the focus and clarity on what to pursue/go all in on

feel free to pm me if you wanna dicuss something particular

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

@Jason Voorhees offtopic but i just saw that clav rakes in 75k/month from his fucking course. goddamn i didnt know it pays this well to sell these. maybe were in the wrong racket xd

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

@Jason Voorhees offtopic but i just saw that clav rakes in 75k/month from his fucking course. goddamn i didnt know it pays this well to sell these. maybe were in the wrong racket xd

try to make blackpill go mainstream in india and become a gazillionaire

 

[Jason Voorhees]

yeah, nailing down what you should start with or get into is really hard. idk about other things but if you wanna get into computer-science or business overall i suggest you try building asap i.e. learn the basics and try building something with that knowledge. always think about scalability business/technology-wise, but focus on the essentials, create no bullshit, useful demos (MVPs). i think if you keep exploring you'll nail down a niche where you can make really good money, there's a ton of opportunity but it's generally hidden in niches. my roommate works 4 remote coding jobs at once bc he found companies where he's maintaining legacy systems that nobody else undestands and that just work on their own, with the companies periodically requiring small changes here-and-there. he works reasonable hours 8-12 hours per day and rakes in top 0.1% income for my country (cz) at 23

The niche thing is spot on imo. From what I've learnt in all these years is companies want people who can do one thing but do it very well.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

try to make blackpill go mainstream in india and become a gazillionaire

There's already a guy who did that actually. Hashtaggollu @Lightskin Ethnic

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@mvpisafaggot420 where did you get that 75k figure. That's insane man wtf. He mogs many drop shippersband other people in that same niche

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

@mvpisafaggot420 where did you get that 75k figure. That's insane man wtf. He mogs many drop shippersband other people in that same niche

he has 1.5k people on his skool thing and charges 50$/month

 

[Jason Voorhees]

he has 1.5k people on his skool thing and charges 50$/month

Brutal. Why grind doing CS when you can this tbh

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

Brutal. Why grind doing CS when you can this tbh

yeah, just do meth and tren theory honestly

 

[Jason Voorhees]

yeah, just do meth and tren theory honestly

Kshami probably makes even more then since he is more mainstream and has even more followers. Like 1 million a year wtf

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

Kshami probably makes even more then since he is more mainstream and has even more followers. Like 1 million a year wtf

yeah probably well over a mil even. fuck, are we just clowns??

 

[GynoGladiator]

@Jason Voorhees offtopic but i just saw that clav rakes in 75k/month from his fucking course. goddamn i didnt know it pays this well to sell these. maybe were in the wrong racket xd

Its so stupid knowing that his course and dozens of others have already been leaked