Cycle

[JesusSavedMe]

Ok, then in this case, you’re cooked. For a couple of reasons:

1. You need to acknowledge that bonemass ≠ better looking face. Yall think that the moment a mm of bonemass is gonna appear on your face is the moment you will be good looking, and that’s not the case, it’s all about proportions. You can’t control where your bonemass will grow.

2. You won’t grow a single atom of facial bonemass unless you blast crazy amounts of HGH and let’s not even talk about the amounts you will need to get bonemass from using cjc and ipamorelin JFL.

3.if you want real bonemass and you are willing to do crazy amounts of HGH/cjc + ipamorelin, You need to a understand the downsides it will give you (insulin resistance, bloat, joint pain and more).

So no, it’s not as simple as you think. M
Nothing in life is free.

Imma js save for implants for my ltn chin

 

[6´3 LTN]

And don’t forget to rep my post

You replied fast
Also rep my post

 

[Copercel]

Imma js save for implants for my ltn chin

How tf is that related . But go ahead I guess.

 

[JesusSavedMe]

How tf is that related . But go ahead I guess.

Cause the entire peptides or roids thong is targeted on my chin,it's by far my biggest failo

 

[6´3 LTN]

“Precious time” yeah bro.

I could be beating my shit right now, but instead I’m helping him, and he should show appreciation by repping my post.

 

[JesusSavedMe]

I could be beating my shit right now, but instead I’m helping him, and he should show appreciation by repping my post.

Go spank your shit then man

 

[idkmanimao]

You replied fast
Also rep my post

Don’t forget to rep my post too btw

Ok, then in this case, you’re cooked. For a couple of reasons:

1. You need to acknowledge that bonemass ≠ better looking face. Yall think that the moment a mm of bonemass is gonna appear on your face is the moment you will be good looking, and that’s not the case, it’s all about proportions. You can’t control where your bonemass will grow (your first thing to grow when using HGH/ any gh secretgouges is your ears and nose haha).

2. You won’t grow a single atom of facial bonemass unless you blast crazy amounts of HGH and let’s not even talk about the amounts you will need to get bonemass from using cjc and ipamorelin JFL.

3.if you want real bonemass and you are willing to do crazy amounts of HGH/cjc + ipamorelin, You need to a understand the downsides it will give you (insulin resistance, bloat, joint pain and more).

So no, it’s not as simple as you think. M
Nothing in life is free.

and what about Noc? You clearly glaze what doses you need for bone mass “20 ui’s of hgh”

These guys doses were most likely not close to fucking 20 UI’s of hgh lol, maybe due to the fact that they might be “hyper responsive” or they just got lucky with where the bone came..

 

[6´3 LTN]

Go spank your shit then man

I was joking

Now go rep all our messages since you just got smarter

@idkmanimao @Copercel

 

[Copercel]

Don’t forget to rep my post too btw

and what about Noc? You clearly glaze what doses you need for bone mass “20 ui’s of hgh”
View attachment 3923117
View attachment 3923118 These guys doses were most likely not close to fucking 20 UI’s of hgh lol, maybe due to the fact that they might be “hyper responsive” or they just got lucky with where the bone came..

I don’t know what their cycle was or even if it was a genetic miracle (probably not).
But I assume if Kent did a HGH cycle, he was doing 15IU+ for sure. You can’t achieve this with less than 15 iu of HGH.

For the second video you shared- it’s genetics, he didn’t do any HGH cycle.

 

[6´3 LTN]

Don’t forget to rep my post too btw

and what about Noc? You clearly glaze what doses you need for bone mass “20 ui’s of hgh”
View attachment 3923117
View attachment 3923118 These guys doses were most likely not close to fucking 20 UI’s of hgh lol, maybe due to the fact that they might be “hyper responsive” or they just got lucky with where the bone came..

First one was surgery/filler and the other is frauding you can’t grow so much bone by using steroids/peptides

 

[Copercel]

Cause the entire peptides or roids thong is targeted on my chin,it's by far my biggest failo

You can use IGF-1 des on your chin…

 

[JesusSavedMe]

You can use IGF-1 des on your chin…

What's igf-1 des

 

[6´3 LTN]

I don’t know what their cycle was or even if it was a genetic miracle (probably not).
But I assume if Kent did a HGH cycle, he was doing 15IU+ for sure. You can’t achieve this with less than 15 iu of HGH.

Kent is “natural”

 

[Copercel]

What's igf-1 des

Basically a IGF-1 that is 10 times more potent than normal IGF-1 and it’s more locally, therefore allowing you to get bonemass more locally where you want it.

 

[JesusSavedMe]

You can use IGF-1 des on your chin…

Your telling me i can inject that onto the chin and it will grow or sum ?

 

[JesusSavedMe]

Basically a IGF-1 that is 10 times more potent than normal IGF-1 and it’s more locally, therefore allowing you to get bonemass more locally where you want it.

Imma indulge in that,gn btw

 

[Copercel]

Your telling me i can inject that onto the chin and it will grow or sum ?

Hypothetically. There is not much research on that, but yeah it could.

 

[idkmanimao]

I don’t know what their cycle was or even if it was a genetic miracle (probably not).
But I assume if Kent did a HGH cycle, he was doing 15IU+ for sure. You can’t achieve this with less than 15 iu of HGH.

Reasonable, but still, that statement isn’t 100% true, there are body builders who take hgh and get crazy facial gains (not just skin thickness ofc bone mass too) and these guys always address and tell there cycles most of the time, body builders for the most part don’t go over 10 UI’s of hgh, yet they still make facial bone gains when over 18 years old, so this does disprove whatever you said, and as for the 2nd video I sent, he said he took 8 UI’s for 6 months, you can clearly see the bone growth, chin projection, nose fixed, mandible etc..

 

[Hexxon]

What age should I run cjc 1295 + ipamorelin (ages through 14-18) @Zeekie

it depends imo, if ur really short or really lacking bones and was in puberty early then maybe look into it. However I wouldn't suggest it till like 17/18 when u have mostly developed as there's pretty much no research on how it actually affects u at that age. like it could mess up ur growth and u end up worse off than u wouldve been

 

[idkmanimao]

First one was surgery/filler and the other is frauding you can’t grow so much bone by using steroids/peptides

And how do you know he got surgery? Just making a statement doesn’t make you right, also I just realized we’re both 6’3 Ltn Imao

 

[Copercel]

Reasonable, but still, that statement isn’t 100% true, there are body builders who take hgh and get crazy facial gains (not just skin thickness ofc bone mass too) and these guys always address and tell there cycles most of the time, body builders for the most part don’t go over 10 UI’s of hgh, yet they still make facial bone gains when over 18 years old, so this does disprove whatever you said,

You have 0 proof that shows these bodybuilders actually had facial bonemass enhancement. It’s all anecdotal. You can’t grow your bones significantly at 10 iu, especially not when you’re 18+.

and as for the 2nd video I sent, he said he took 8 UI’s for 6 months, you can clearly see the bone growth, chin projection, nose fixed, mandible etc..

so you’re really that retarded that you believe everything you see on every TikTok video?

I can also say I fucked Madison beer, would it be true?

 

[idkmanimao]

You have 0 proof that shows these bodybuilders actually had facial bonemass enhancement. It’s all anecdotal. You can’t grow your bones significantly at 10 iu, especially not when you’re 18+.

so you’re really that retarded that you believe everything you see on every TikTok video?

I can also say I fucked Madison beer, would it be true?

And you have 0 fucking proof you need 15 UI’s+ to get growth off hgh, you’ve never tried it, and you’ve never seen anyone take 15+ fucking UI’s of hgh, stop making bullshit claims imao and no I don’t completely trust them ofc, I chose to believe them, show me studies or pictures of someone on 15+ UI’s of hgh, disprove me, I want to see it, but you can’t because you’ve never done or tried fucking shit

 

[6´3 LTN]

And how do you know he got surgery? Just making a statement doesn’t make you right, also I just realized we’re both 6’3 Ltn Imao

No amount of steroids will make your bones grow that much
He was 18.5 years when he started roiding which is very late and nobody would get results like that at that age

It won’t be long till I’m 6’9 and mtn so I’ll mog you to oblivion

 

[idkmanimao]

No amount of steroids will make your bones grow that much
He was 18.5 years when he started roiding which is very late and nobody would get results like that at that age

It won’t be long till I’m 6’9 and mtn so I’ll mog you to oblivion

18.5, did he fucking look 18? What are the actual chances he was 18? why is 90% of people who ascended look multiple years younger then there actual age, can be a fucking qaincidence

 

[6´3 LTN]

18.5, did he fucking look 18? What are the actual chances he was 18? why is 90% of people who ascended look multiple years younger then there actual age, can be a fucking qaincidence

I’m sorry but do you’re research before talking

 

[idkmanimao]

I’m sorry but do you’re research before talking

Didn’t change my point lol, I’m saying he can just lie about his age and fucking timelines? Never considered that opinion or idea? He already tried to say he was natty and did everything naturally, so how do you know he’s not lying again lol?

 

[mogmypsl999]

What age should I run cjc 1295 + ipamorelin (ages through 14-18) @Zeekie

any age

 

[6´3 LTN]

Didn’t change my point lol, I’m saying he can just lie about his age and fucking timelines? Never considered that opinion or idea? He already tried to say he was natty and did everything naturally, so how do you know he’s not lying again lol?

so you’re really that retarded that you believe everything you see on every TikTok video?

 

[idkmanimao]

You have 0 proof that shows these bodybuilders actually had facial bonemass enhancement. It’s all anecdotal. You can’t grow your bones significantly at 10 iu, especially not when you’re 18+.

so you’re really that retarded that you believe everything you see on every TikTok video?

I can also say I fucked Madison beer, would it be true?

I’m sorry but do you’re research before talking

LOOK AT FEMALE BODYBUILDERS WHO FUCKING CYCLE, THERE SKULLS AND BONES WERE NEVER EVER CLOSE TO WHAT THEY FUCKING HAVE, SO I FOUND ONE, GOT "Her cycle" i'll post her pictures and cycle (shes open about her cycles and tells everyone what she uses, she even posts it on insa...)

this is a fucking girl btw, she's not lean here but, you get the point, Not to fucking mention she somehow got her entire fucking skull changed as a adult..

• Testosterone Propionate – 25–50 mg every other day (EOD)
  

  Primary driver of facial masculinization, jaw growth, deepening of voice, and overall muscle mass.

• Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 100–200 mg per week
  

  Adds mass, less androgenic than Test but still causes virilization over time.

• Trenbolone Acetate – 25 mg EOD or 50 mg 2x/week (very advanced only)
  

  Ultra-androgenic and anabolic, causes facial thickening and jaw hypertrophy over time.

• HGH (Human Growth Hormone) – 3–6 IU/day (year-round)
  

  Thickens bones, skin, joints, and promotes facial widening — especially jaw and brow.

• IGF-1 LR3 – 50–100 mcg/day post-workout (6–8 week cycles)
  

  Accelerates tissue growth, supports facial and muscle hypertrophy.

• Insulin (Humalog or Novolog) – 4–6 IU post-workout with carbs (advanced only)
  

  Massive growth agent when stacked with GH/IGF.

• Blast periods: 12–16 weeks pre-contest (high dose)
• Cruise periods: Lower doses year-round
• Off-season: HGH, Test, and Nandrolone maintained year-round

then you still proceed to say that shit doesn't work while you see the fucking proof with your deformed eyes @Bryce @Node @kurd @dnrwarrior11 @Pento "15 ui's of hgh for any growth" fuck now you guys basically made me make an entire thread about this lol

 

[Bryce]

LOOK AT FEMALE BODYBUILDERS WHO FUCKING CYCLE, THERE SKULLS AND BONES WERE NEVER EVER CLOSE TO WHAT THEY FUCKING HAVE, SO I FOUND ONE, GOT "Her cycle" i'll post her pictures and cycle (shes open about her cycles and tells everyone what she uses, she even posts it on insa...) View attachment 3923190 this is a fucking girl btw, she's not lean here but, you get the point, Not to fucking mention she somehow got her entire fucking skull changed as a adult..

• Testosterone Propionate – 25–50 mg every other day (EOD)
• Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 100–200 mg per week
• Trenbolone Acetate – 25 mg EOD or 50 mg 2x/week (very advanced only)
• HGH (Human Growth Hormone) – 3–6 IU/day (year-round)
• IGF-1 LR3 – 50–100 mcg/day post-workout (6–8 week cycles)
• Insulin (Humalog or Novolog) – 4–6 IU post-workout with carbs (advanced only)

• Blast periods: 12–16 weeks pre-contest (high dose)
• Cruise periods: Lower doses year-round
• Off-season: HGH, Test, and Nandrolone maintained year-round

then you still proceed to say that shit doesn't work while you see the fucking proof with your deformed eyes @Bryce @Node @kurd @dnrwarrior11 @Pento "15 ui's of hgh for any growth"

I have no idea what is going on

 

[idkmanimao]

I have no idea what is going on

read the covo, scroll up

 

[Copercel]

And you have 0 fucking proof you need 15 UI’s+ to get growth off hgh, you’ve never tried it, and you’ve never seen anyone take 15+ fucking UI’s of hgh, stop making bullshit claims imao and no I don’t completely trust them ofc, I chose to believe them, show me studies or pictures of someone on 15+ UI’s of hgh, disprove me, I want to see it, but you can’t because you’ve never done or tried fucking shit

That’s funny you say that because I’m on HGH rn haha.
Anyway, for the studies- in the study, you can see that someone ran 3iu of HGH daily for 12 months. Which if we convert to normal range of how you should run HGH, he doses it at 6 IUs daily for 6 months.
The study show that he had very little increase in bonemass, so yeah that’s contradicting your claim.

Increased bone density after recombinant human growth hormone (GH) therapy in adults with isolated GH deficiency - PubMed

The physiological role of GH in the adult skeleton is unknown. In this study, 12 adults (10 males and 2 females) with isolated GH deficiency were treated with GH as a single daily sc injection (0.125 IU/kg.week for the first 4 weeks and subsequently at 0.25 IU/kg.week) for 1 yr in a double...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also this one debunk your claim-
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2726838/

LOOK AT FEMALE BODYBUILDERS WHO FUCKING CYCLE, THERE SKULLS AND BONES WERE NEVER EVER CLOSE TO WHAT THEY FUCKING HAVE, SO I FOUND ONE, GOT "Her cycle" i'll post her pictures and cycle (shes open about her cycles and tells everyone what she uses, she even posts it on insa...) View attachment 3923190 this is a fucking girl btw, she's not lean here but, you get the point, Not to fucking mention she somehow got her entire fucking skull changed as a adult..

• Testosterone Propionate – 25–50 mg every other day (EOD)
• Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 100–200 mg per week
• Trenbolone Acetate – 25 mg EOD or 50 mg 2x/week (very advanced only)
• HGH (Human Growth Hormone) – 3–6 IU/day (year-round)
• IGF-1 LR3 – 50–100 mcg/day post-workout (6–8 week cycles)
• Insulin (Humalog or Novolog) – 4–6 IU post-workout with carbs (advanced only)

• Blast periods: 12–16 weeks pre-contest (high dose)
• Cruise periods: Lower doses year-round
• Off-season: HGH, Test, and Nandrolone maintained year-round

then you still proceed to say that shit doesn't work while you see the fucking proof with your deformed eyes @Bryce @Node @kurd @dnrwarrior11 @Pento "15 ui's of hgh for any growth" fuck now you guys basically made me make an entire thread about this lol

I never said that HGH won’t grow you bonemass, are you retarded ?

Also I can see you’re a absolute retard that you think roids will give you bonemass.

Just because a girl has bonemass AND she cycles, it doesn’t mean it’s related. Show the before pics of her before bodybuilding and let’s see if it actually changed.


Do you see any facial bonemass changes here? Because I don’t. And he blasted far more than she did for sure-

You’re one of the most retards user here, don’t ever speak in my presence. Keep begging for reps.

@jeff1234 @kazama look at this negro.

 

[6´3 LTN]

That’s funny you say that because I’m on HGH rn haha.
Anyway, for the studies- in the study, you can see that someone ran 3iu of HGH daily for 12 months. Which if we convert to normal range of how you should run HGH, he doses it at 6 IUs daily for 6 months.
The study show that he had very little increase in bonemass, so yeah that’s contradicting your claim.

Increased bone density after recombinant human growth hormone (GH) therapy in adults with isolated GH deficiency - PubMed

The physiological role of GH in the adult skeleton is unknown. In this study, 12 adults (10 males and 2 females) with isolated GH deficiency were treated with GH as a single daily sc injection (0.125 IU/kg.week for the first 4 weeks and subsequently at 0.25 IU/kg.week) for 1 yr in a double...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also this one debunk your claim-
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2726838/

I never said that HGH won’t grow you bonemass, are you retarded ?

Also I can see you’re a absolute retard that you think roids will give you bonemass.

Just because a girl has bonemass AND she cycles, it doesn’t mean it’s related. Show the before pics of her before bodybuilding and let’s see if it actually changed.


Do you see any facial bonemass changes here? Because I don’t. And he blasted far more than she did for sure-
View attachment 3923224

You’re one of the most retards user here, don’t ever speak in my presence. Keep begging for reps.

@jeff1234 @kazama look at this negro.

Arnold started his test at 16 which gave him no bones and this nigga thinks roids grow bones

@idkmanimao

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @

@Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

 

[idkmanimao]

That’s funny you say that because I’m on HGH rn haha.
Anyway, for the studies- in the study, you can see that someone ran 3iu of HGH daily for 12 months. Which if we convert to normal range of how you should run HGH, he doses it at 6 IUs daily for 6 months.
The study show that he had very little increase in bonemass, so yeah that’s contradicting your claim.

Increased bone density after recombinant human growth hormone (GH) therapy in adults with isolated GH deficiency - PubMed

The physiological role of GH in the adult skeleton is unknown. In this study, 12 adults (10 males and 2 females) with isolated GH deficiency were treated with GH as a single daily sc injection (0.125 IU/kg.week for the first 4 weeks and subsequently at 0.25 IU/kg.week) for 1 yr in a double...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also this one debunk your claim-
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2726838/

I never said that HGH won’t grow you bonemass, are you retarded ?

Also I can see you’re a absolute retard that you think roids will give you bonemass.

Just because a girl has bonemass AND she cycles, it doesn’t mean it’s related. Show the before pics of her before bodybuilding and let’s see if it actually changed.


Do you see any facial bonemass changes here? Because I don’t. And he blasted far more than she did for sure-
View attachment 3923224

You’re one of the most retards user here, don’t ever speak in my presence. Keep begging for reps.

@jeff1234 @kazama look at this negro.

Just because 1 person didn't bone mass or only slightly doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else that's what I've been trying to tell you imao, some people have better genetics in terms of gaining muscle mass and others goes with bone, you were talking like EVERYONE needs to be taking crazy fucking doses to gain a good amount of bone mass

heres the picture of her before and yes you basically implied there was going to be no bone mass gains if under "15 ui's" of hgh
Yes, some people gain noticeable bone mass from anabolic drugs while others don’t, and it mostly comes down to a mix of genetics, age, hormone sensitivity, and drug type. People with higher androgen receptor density in their bone tissue are more likely to experience bone growth—especially in the jaw, cheekbones, and brow ridge—when exposed to strong androgens like testosterone, trenbolone, or DHT derivatives. Younger users, particularly those under 25, are more likely to see skeletal changes because their growth plates may not be fully closed, and their bones are still somewhat responsive to growth signals. The combination of high-dose androgens with growth hormone or IGF-1 amplifies the effect, especially on bone thickness and width, but it doesn’t affect everyone equally. Some individuals are genetically wired to respond strongly to these compounds—think thickening mandibles, expanding jaw angles, or even minor orbital ridge growth—while others might get all the muscle but barely any skeletal change at all. Just like muscle building, bone remodeling from PEDs is influenced by individual biology, receptor sensitivity, and how long or aggressively someone uses the drugs, which is why two people on the exact same cycle can look totally different over time.


- ChatGPT

you obv need some luck for this shit, but you don't always need doses like that lol

 

[Copercel]

Just because 1 person didn't bone mass or only slightly doesn't mean it's the same for everyone

That’s EXACTLY what you did btw.

that's what I've been trying to tell you imao, some people have better genetics in terms of gaining muscle mass and others goes with bone, you were talking like EVERYONE needs to be taking crazy fucking doses to gain a good amount of bone mass

It has nothing to do with genetics- you CANT grow bones from steroids, especially not when you start at 16+.

View attachment 3923262 heres the picture of her before and yes

she’s like 12 in the first pic and 30 in the second one, but ok.
Also if you look at her facial bonemass alone, you can see there is no change:

Also this pic is clearly edited- so you can’t really know what going on there.

yes you basically implied there was going to be no bone mass gains if under "15 ui's" of hgh

I never said it, I said that only at 15IU you are going to see “significant” and ”noticeable” amounts of facial bonemass.
At lower dosages, you just won’t see much difference and changes that are actually noticeable to the untrained eye.

Yes, some people gain noticeable bone mass from anabolic drugs while others don’t, and it mostly comes down to a mix of genetics, age, hormone sensitivity, and drug type. People with higher androgen receptor density in their bone tissue are more likely to experience bone growth—especially in the jaw, cheekbones, and brow ridge—when exposed to strong androgens like testosterone, trenbolone, or DHT derivatives.


- ChatGPT

you obv need some luck for this shit, but you don't always need doses like that lol

mirin for using chat gpt because you got no critical thinking and clearly never did a single research in your life.

But ok let’s keep that in the side.
Roids do not cause post-pubertal bonemass growth in healthy adult males.
After epiphyseal closure ( which happens in 16+) longitudinal bone growth stops, and androgens cannot induce new bone length or significant shape changes.
AR activation can increase bone density and periosteal thickening very minimally, and does not remodel craniofacial structure in a noticeable way.

A concise review of testosterone and bone health - PubMed

Osteoporosis is a condition causing significant morbidity and mortality in the elderly population worldwide. Age-related testosterone deficiency is the most important factor of bone loss in elderly men. Androgen can influence bone health by binding to androgen receptors directly or to estrogen...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

just blast grams of steroids
before your growth plates are closed just to get some uncanny bonemass theory.

Younger users, particularly those under 25, are more likely to see skeletal changes because their growth plates may not be fully closed, and their bones are still somewhat responsive to growth signals.

By the age of 16, most people have already fused cranial and mandibular growth plates,so no, that’s not true.

. The combination of high-dose androgens with growth hormone or IGF-1 amplifies the effect, especially on bone thickness and width, but it doesn’t affect everyone equally. Some individuals are genetically wired to respond strongly to these compounds—think thickening mandibles, expanding jaw angles, or even minor orbital ridge growth—while others might get all the muscle but barely any skeletal change at all. Just like muscle building, bone remodeling from PEDs is influenced by individual biology, receptor sensitivity, and how long or aggressively someone uses the drugs, which is why two people on the exact same cycle can look totally different over time.

No documented case in clinical literature shows significant aesthetic craniofacial remodeling in adult males using peds.
Most so-called “bone gains” are just:

1.Soft tissue thickening

2.Fat redistribution

3.Edema

4.Illusions caused by masseter hypertrophy or neck muscle hypertrophy

5.Or just delusional schizophrenics incels JFL.


Genetics influences baseline bone structure, not the body’s ability to create thicker bones…

. The combination of high-dose androgens with growth hormone or IGF-1 amplifies the effect, especially on bone thickness and width,

In steroids-no
In HGH- yes, exactly like I said.
You’re contradicting yourself.

Some individuals are genetically wired to respond strongly to these compounds—think thickening mandibles, expanding jaw angles, or even minor orbital ridge growth—while others might get all the muscle but barely any skeletal change at all. Just like muscle building, bone remodeling from PEDs is influenced by individual biology, receptor sensitivity, and how long or aggressively someone uses the drugs, which is why two people on the exact same cycle can look totally different over time.

Differences in how people respond to peds are real, but not for bone structure.

The variance is in:
Muscle gain
Fat loss
Skin texture
Water retention
Craniofacial bone changes don’t happen significantly in any adult user without surgery or deforming disease.

Just because 1 person didn't bone mass or only slightly doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else that's what I've been trying to tell you imao, some people have better genetics in terms of gaining muscle mass and others goes with bone, you were talking like EVERYONE needs to be taking crazy fucking doses to gain a good amount of bone mass

View attachment 3923262 heres the picture of her before and yes you basically implied there was going to be no bone mass gains if under "15 ui's" of hgh
Yes, some people gain noticeable bone mass from anabolic drugs while others don’t, and it mostly comes down to a mix of genetics, age, hormone sensitivity, and drug type. People with higher androgen receptor density in their bone tissue are more likely to experience bone growth—especially in the jaw, cheekbones, and brow ridge—when exposed to strong androgens like testosterone, trenbolone, or DHT derivatives. Younger users, particularly those under 25, are more likely to see skeletal changes because their growth plates may not be fully closed, and their bones are still somewhat responsive to growth signals. The combination of high-dose androgens with growth hormone or IGF-1 amplifies the effect, especially on bone thickness and width, but it doesn’t affect everyone equally. Some individuals are genetically wired to respond strongly to these compounds—think thickening mandibles, expanding jaw angles, or even minor orbital ridge growth—while others might get all the muscle but barely any skeletal change at all. Just like muscle building, bone remodeling from PEDs is influenced by individual biology, receptor sensitivity, and how long or aggressively someone uses the drugs, which is why two people on the exact same cycle can look totally different over time.


- ChatGPT

you obv need some luck for this shit, but you don't always need doses like that lol

So for some cherry on top. If you can’t argue properly without the need of gpt, don’t start the argument.

Go back to your cage now.

@Bryce @jeff1234 (you are gonna love this) @kazama

 

[idkmanimao]

That’s EXACTLY what you did btw.


It has nothing to do with genetics- you CANT grow bones from steroids, especially not when you start at 16+.

she’s like 12 in the first pic and 30 in the second one, but ok.
Also if you look at her facial bonemass alone, you can see there is no change:
View attachment 3923366View attachment 3923367
Also this pic is clearly edited- so you can’t really know what going on there.

I never said it, I said that only at 15IU you are going to see “significant” and ”noticeable” amounts of facial bonemass.
At lower dosages, you just won’t see much difference and changes that are actually noticeable to the untrained eye.

mirin for using chat gpt because you got no critical thinking and clearly never did a single research in your life.

But ok let’s keep that in the side.
Roids do not cause post-pubertal bonemass growth in healthy adult males.
After epiphyseal closure ( which happens in 16+) longitudinal bone growth stops, and androgens cannot induce new bone length or significant shape changes.
AR activation can increase bone density and periosteal thickening very minimally, and does not remodel craniofacial structure in a meaningful or aesthetic way.

A concise review of testosterone and bone health - PubMed

Osteoporosis is a condition causing significant morbidity and mortality in the elderly population worldwide. Age-related testosterone deficiency is the most important factor of bone loss in elderly men. Androgen can influence bone health by binding to androgen receptors directly or to estrogen...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

just blast grams of steroids
before your growth plates are closed just to get some uncanny bonemass theory.

By the age of 16, most people have already fused cranial and mandibular growth plates,so no, that’s not true.

No documented case in clinical literature shows significant aesthetic craniofacial remodeling in adult males using peds.
Most so-called “bone gains” are just:

1.Soft tissue thickening

2.Fat redistribution

3.Edema

4.Illusions caused by masseter hypertrophy or neck muscle hypertrophy

5.Or just delusional schizophrenics incels JFL.


Genetics influences baseline bone structure, not the body’s ability to create thicker bones…

In steroids-no
In HGH- yes, exactly like I said.
You’re contradicting yourself.

Differences in how people respond to peds are real, but not for bone structure.

The variance is in:
Muscle gain
Fat loss
Skin texture
Water retention
Craniofacial bone changes don’t happen significantly in any adult user without surgery or deforming disease.



So for some cherry on top. If you can’t argue properly without the need of gpt, don’t start the argument.

Go back to your cage now.

@Bryce @jeff1234 (you are gonna love this) @kazama

yes yes, I admit defeat, sorry bhai, anyways i'm not talking about adults, teen years is what i'm talking about (should have stated earlier, mb)

 

[jeff1234]

That’s funny you say that because I’m on HGH rn haha.
Anyway, for the studies- in the study, you can see that someone ran 3iu of HGH daily for 12 months. Which if we convert to normal range of how you should run HGH, he doses it at 6 IUs daily for 6 months.
The study show that he had very little increase in bonemass, so yeah that’s contradicting your claim.

Increased bone density after recombinant human growth hormone (GH) therapy in adults with isolated GH deficiency - PubMed

The physiological role of GH in the adult skeleton is unknown. In this study, 12 adults (10 males and 2 females) with isolated GH deficiency were treated with GH as a single daily sc injection (0.125 IU/kg.week for the first 4 weeks and subsequently at 0.25 IU/kg.week) for 1 yr in a double...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also this one debunk your claim-
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2726838/

I never said that HGH won’t grow you bonemass, are you retarded ?

Also I can see you’re a absolute retard that you think roids will give you bonemass.

Just because a girl has bonemass AND she cycles, it doesn’t mean it’s related. Show the before pics of her before bodybuilding and let’s see if it actually changed.


Do you see any facial bonemass changes here? Because I don’t. And he blasted far more than she did for sure-
View attachment 3923224

You’re one of the most retards user here, don’t ever speak in my presence. Keep begging for reps.

@jeff1234 @kazama look at this negro.

Just because 1 person didn't bone mass or only slightly doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else that's what I've been trying to tell you imao, some people have better genetics in terms of gaining muscle mass and others goes with bone, you were talking like EVERYONE needs to be taking crazy fucking doses to gain a good amount of bone mass

View attachment 3923262 heres the picture of her before and yes you basically implied there was going to be no bone mass gains if under "15 ui's" of hgh
Yes, some people gain noticeable bone mass from anabolic drugs while others don’t, and it mostly comes down to a mix of genetics, age, hormone sensitivity, and drug type. People with higher androgen receptor density in their bone tissue are more likely to experience bone growth—especially in the jaw, cheekbones, and brow ridge—when exposed to strong androgens like testosterone, trenbolone, or DHT derivatives. Younger users, particularly those under 25, are more likely to see skeletal changes because their growth plates may not be fully closed, and their bones are still somewhat responsive to growth signals. The combination of high-dose androgens with growth hormone or IGF-1 amplifies the effect, especially on bone thickness and width, but it doesn’t affect everyone equally. Some individuals are genetically wired to respond strongly to these compounds—think thickening mandibles, expanding jaw angles, or even minor orbital ridge growth—while others might get all the muscle but barely any skeletal change at all. Just like muscle building, bone remodeling from PEDs is influenced by individual biology, receptor sensitivity, and how long or aggressively someone uses the drugs, which is why two people on the exact same cycle can look totally different over time.


- ChatGPT

you obv need some luck for this shit, but you don't always need doses like that lol

@idkmanimao i rotted on a lot of forums and bodybuilding forum and many more, but you are really one of the more retards ones I’ve ever seen. And I usually bring nice to people but it’s hard when they are so stupid.

 

[idkmanimao]

@idkmanimao i rotted on a lot of forums and bodybuilding forum and many more, but you are really one of the more retards ones I’ve ever seen. And I usually bring nice to people but it’s hard when they are so stupid.

eh, i'm 14 rn and just joined forum a few months ago so chill out on me nigger

 

[jeff1234]

eh, i'm 14 rn so chill out on me nigger

Sorry if I hurted you in any way but god.

Don’t start arguments you can’t finish. You just cortisol spiked my bro

 

[Copercel]

@idkmanimao i rotted on a lot of forums and bodybuilding forum and many more, but you are really one of the more retards ones I’ve ever seen. And I usually bring nice to people but it’s hard when they are so stupid.

It’s really hard to argue with such people.

 

[jeff1234]

Kent is “natural”
View attachment 3923135

He has been exposed long ago

 

[6´3 LTN]

He has been exposed long ago

I know, I made fun of the fact he still claims natural after all these leaks

 

[6´3 LTN]

That’s EXACTLY what you did btw.


It has nothing to do with genetics- you CANT grow bones from steroids, especially not when you start at 16+.

she’s like 12 in the first pic and 30 in the second one, but ok.
Also if you look at her facial bonemass alone, you can see there is no change:
View attachment 3923366View attachment 3923367
Also this pic is clearly edited- so you can’t really know what going on there.

I never said it, I said that only at 15IU you are going to see “significant” and ”noticeable” amounts of facial bonemass.
At lower dosages, you just won’t see much difference and changes that are actually noticeable to the untrained eye.

mirin for using chat gpt because you got no critical thinking and clearly never did a single research in your life.

But ok let’s keep that in the side.
Roids do not cause post-pubertal bonemass growth in healthy adult males.
After epiphyseal closure ( which happens in 16+) longitudinal bone growth stops, and androgens cannot induce new bone length or significant shape changes.
AR activation can increase bone density and periosteal thickening very minimally, and does not remodel craniofacial structure in a noticeable way.

A concise review of testosterone and bone health - PubMed

Osteoporosis is a condition causing significant morbidity and mortality in the elderly population worldwide. Age-related testosterone deficiency is the most important factor of bone loss in elderly men. Androgen can influence bone health by binding to androgen receptors directly or to estrogen...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

just blast grams of steroids
before your growth plates are closed just to get some uncanny bonemass theory.

By the age of 16, most people have already fused cranial and mandibular growth plates,so no, that’s not true.

No documented case in clinical literature shows significant aesthetic craniofacial remodeling in adult males using peds.
Most so-called “bone gains” are just:

1.Soft tissue thickening

2.Fat redistribution

3.Edema

4.Illusions caused by masseter hypertrophy or neck muscle hypertrophy

5.Or just delusional schizophrenics incels JFL.


Genetics influences baseline bone structure, not the body’s ability to create thicker bones…

In steroids-no
In HGH- yes, exactly like I said.
You’re contradicting yourself.

Differences in how people respond to peds are real, but not for bone structure.

The variance is in:
Muscle gain
Fat loss
Skin texture
Water retention
Craniofacial bone changes don’t happen significantly in any adult user without surgery or deforming disease.



So for some cherry on top. If you can’t argue properly without the need of gpt, don’t start the argument.

Go back to your cage now.

@Bryce @jeff1234 (you are gonna love this) @kazama

I just witnessed rape

eh, i'm 14 rn and just joined forum a few months ago so chill out on me nigger

Don't try to act smart if you have zero knowledge, you're just arguing for no reason and wasting everyone's time.

 

[idkmanimao]

I just witnessed rape

Don't try to act smart if you have zero knowledge, you're just arguing for no reason and wasting everyone's time.

It’s not zero, just not as much as him

 

[6´3 LTN]

It’s not zero, just not as much as him

Believing steroids will give you bones is basically zero knowledge.

 

[kazama]

That’s funny you say that because I’m on HGH rn haha.
Anyway, for the studies- in the study, you can see that someone ran 3iu of HGH daily for 12 months. Which if we convert to normal range of how you should run HGH, he doses it at 6 IUs daily for 6 months.
The study show that he had very little increase in bonemass, so yeah that’s contradicting your claim.

Increased bone density after recombinant human growth hormone (GH) therapy in adults with isolated GH deficiency - PubMed

The physiological role of GH in the adult skeleton is unknown. In this study, 12 adults (10 males and 2 females) with isolated GH deficiency were treated with GH as a single daily sc injection (0.125 IU/kg.week for the first 4 weeks and subsequently at 0.25 IU/kg.week) for 1 yr in a double...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also this one debunk your claim-
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2726838/

I never said that HGH won’t grow you bonemass, are you retarded ?

Also I can see you’re a absolute retard that you think roids will give you bonemass.

Just because a girl has bonemass AND she cycles, it doesn’t mean it’s related. Show the before pics of her before bodybuilding and let’s see if it actually changed.


Do you see any facial bonemass changes here? Because I don’t. And he blasted far more than she did for sure-
View attachment 3923224

You’re one of the most retards user here, don’t ever speak in my presence. Keep begging for reps.

@jeff1234 @kazama look at this negro.

They didnt do bonesmash together bro......its over

 

[kazama]

That’s EXACTLY what you did btw.


It has nothing to do with genetics- you CANT grow bones from steroids, especially not when you start at 16+.

she’s like 12 in the first pic and 30 in the second one, but ok.
Also if you look at her facial bonemass alone, you can see there is no change:
View attachment 3923366View attachment 3923367
Also this pic is clearly edited- so you can’t really know what going on there.

I never said it, I said that only at 15IU you are going to see “significant” and ”noticeable” amounts of facial bonemass.
At lower dosages, you just won’t see much difference and changes that are actually noticeable to the untrained eye.

mirin for using chat gpt because you got no critical thinking and clearly never did a single research in your life.

But ok let’s keep that in the side.
Roids do not cause post-pubertal bonemass growth in healthy adult males.
After epiphyseal closure ( which happens in 16+) longitudinal bone growth stops, and androgens cannot induce new bone length or significant shape changes.
AR activation can increase bone density and periosteal thickening very minimally, and does not remodel craniofacial structure in a noticeable way.

A concise review of testosterone and bone health - PubMed

Osteoporosis is a condition causing significant morbidity and mortality in the elderly population worldwide. Age-related testosterone deficiency is the most important factor of bone loss in elderly men. Androgen can influence bone health by binding to androgen receptors directly or to estrogen...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

just blast grams of steroids
before your growth plates are closed just to get some uncanny bonemass theory.

By the age of 16, most people have already fused cranial and mandibular growth plates,so no, that’s not true.

No documented case in clinical literature shows significant aesthetic craniofacial remodeling in adult males using peds.
Most so-called “bone gains” are just:

1.Soft tissue thickening

2.Fat redistribution

3.Edema

4.Illusions caused by masseter hypertrophy or neck muscle hypertrophy

5.Or just delusional schizophrenics incels JFL.


Genetics influences baseline bone structure, not the body’s ability to create thicker bones…

In steroids-no
In HGH- yes, exactly like I said.
You’re contradicting yourself.

Differences in how people respond to peds are real, but not for bone structure.

The variance is in:
Muscle gain
Fat loss
Skin texture
Water retention
Craniofacial bone changes don’t happen significantly in any adult user without surgery or deforming disease.



So for some cherry on top. If you can’t argue properly without the need of gpt, don’t start the argument.

Go back to your cage now.

@Bryce @jeff1234 (you are gonna love this) @kazama

Ngl u should make a thread like this
But anyway, gatekeep these new users at 10 years old. They cant know that there is still salvation, and tell users 16+ to use steroids, gatekeep with everyone

 

[Copercel]

Ngl u should make a thread like this
But anyway, gatekeep these new users at 10 years old. They cant know that there is still salvation, and tell users 16+ to use steroids, gatekeep with everyone

Yeah you’re probably right.

 

[JesusSavedMe]

Ngl u should make a thread like this
But anyway, gatekeep these new users at 10 years old. They cant know that there is still salvation, and tell users 16+ to use steroids, gatekeep with everyone

Not cool man

 

[kazama]

Not cool man

Life hurts, bro.....