Dad delivered a chilling message to me on the phone at lunch.

What should you advise me to do?


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I agree she may be nice to you but believes she deserves Chaddam (many of whom aren't really religious anyway)
Still makes her a better person than the ugly / medium chicks who are rude for no reason.
 
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Still makes her a better person than the ugly / medium chicks who are rude for no reason.
Do you agree with this?
Chaddam (many of whom aren't really religious anyway). So these girls will become more "liberal" to be more like that, so agnostic/atheist ex-Muslim Chaddam can notice her.
 
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I agree she may be nice to you but believes she deserves Chaddam (many of whom aren't really religious anyway). So these girls will become more "liberal" to be more like that, so agnostic/atheist ex-Muslim Chaddam can notice her.
@SecularIslamist Do you agree with this?
 
Do you agree with this?
Not in the case of the person I’m talking, she says she studies Islamic videos in her private time to learn more about Islam and also prefers to stay at home rather than go out. She’s HQNP. Although she wears no hijab. She’s Kurdish.
 
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Not in the case of the person I’m talking, she says she studies Islamic videos in her private time to learn more about Islam and also prefers to stay at home rather than go out. She’s HQNP. Although she wears no hijab. She’s Kurdish.
Very ideal behaviour.
 
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Indeed. I hope she gets a chaddam(lite) who matches her. 😬
A lot of Chaddams don't seem to be religious since that's what I've observed at University (some dated around lots of EE women; I knew one who dated a Ukrainian alt druggie foid before splitting up).
 
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A lot of Chaddams don't seem to be religious since that's what I've observed at University (some dated around lots of EE women; I knew one who dated a Ukrainian alt druggie foid before splitting up).
I think European chaddams and UK chaddams are different and you’ll find more religious ones here. Idk?
 
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I think European chaddams and UK chaddams are different and you’ll find more religious ones here. Idk?
I hope she gets a religious Chaddam because her behavior seems so ideal. I hope when your Kurdish friend goes to uni she doesn't get sucked into degeneracy just for the first degen Chaddam she sees, or worse, Chad or Tyrone.
 
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I don't want to give out too much details, but he advised me to "never choose a non-Muslim, especially a white woman, because his brothers and cousins who didn't marry white are living more comfortably than the ones who married white, including himself, who ended up in shitholes relative to the others".

"I just want to see you do very well and sent off to a good Muslim woman so you don't end up like me. Preferably Arab but if she's of another race, highly educated in a respectable field, and is doing very well with her life, you can go with her. We will both watch you when you're meeting a prospective wife. You deserve better than me."
Hes right. Mixed race couples arent inherently a bad thing but they can put up a lot of obstacles like differing cultures.
 
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Hes right. Mixed race couples arent inherently a bad thing but they can put up a lot of obstacles like differing cultures.
I will never touch a white woman, even a white Muslim woman, with a 50-foot pole
 
Modern day Christians and Jews barely practice their religion. Almost every church I see has an lgbt flag and every Christian I've met is a degenerate who knows nothing about Christianity. Stick with muslims ahki.
Can say the same about modern day "muslims" the nafri "muslim" women are having sex with black guys all the time in france and european countries.
 
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I hope she gets a religious Chaddam because her behavior seems so ideal. I hope when your Kurdish friend goes to uni she doesn't get sucked into degeneracy just for the first degen Chaddam she sees, or worse, Chad or Tyrone.
She is not my friend, just a classmate who is nice enough to say hi in the halls. I hope for the same btw.
 
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Can say the same about modern day "muslims" the nafri "muslim" women are having sex with black guys all the time in france and european countries.
Not just nafri but others too. Islamic women in the west are degenerate af. That’s why I don’t call them Muslims either but Islamic.
 
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Not just nafri but others too. Islamic women in the west are degenerate af. That’s why I don’t call them Muslims either but Islamic.
I refer to these lot as "having a Muslim background".
 
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Not just nafri but others too. Islamic women in the west are degenerate af. That’s why I don’t call them Muslims either but Islamic.
People dont realize that muslims are only as devout as they are because of the state. The more liberal the state the less "muslim" they become. I see this happening in Saudi Arabia to some extent.
 
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People dont realize that muslims are only as devout as they are because of the state. The more liberal the state the less "muslim" they become. I see this happening in Saudi Arabia to some extent.
Even more so when they go to the West.
 
Can say the same about modern day "muslims" the nafri "muslim" women are having sex with black guys all the time in france and european countries.
So? North African women are degenerates (same with many North African men), even in their own countries they act westernised. I've been to Morocco and Tunisia and was surprised how westernised/liberal they all were.

I live in a country with a decent muslim population and the difference between Muslim girls and non Muslim girls is night and day, even at their worst they're leagues better than non Muslim women. The whole "muslim women are just as bad bro!" is a cope by demoralised muslim men.
 
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Actually I have to rephrase. I have a good looking Islamic woman in my class. She’s 17 but she’s nice and says hi to me. Even though I am ugly. Rather because good looking women are always nice to everyone. She still wants chaddam only. A dude in my class likes her. He’s also 17.
A lot of Chaddams don't seem to be religious since that's what I've observed at University (some dated around lots of EE women; I knew one who dated a Ukrainian alt druggie foid before splitting up).
I seriously need to learn how to extract spicy info from people lmao.
 
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So? North African women are degenerates (same with many North African men), even in their own countries they act westernised. I've been to Morocco and Tunisia and was surprised how westernised/liberal they all were.
For example, the model Ouessama Gessoum is a known smoker and drinker.
Beurette women are known for having orgies with Tyrones.

@KING REIDYZ @WhoisDes
 
I refer to these lot as "having a Muslim background".
I don’t want the word “Muslim” to be associated with them. Examples of actual Muslims would be the prophets (peace be upon them).
 
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For example, the model Ouessama Gessoum is a known smoker and drinker.
Beurette women are known for having orgies with Tyrones.

@KING REIDYZ @WhoisDes
Delete inshAllah
 
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People dont realize that muslims are only as devout as they are because of the state. The more liberal the state the less "muslim" they become. I see this happening in Saudi Arabia to some extent.
Yes… just look at Turkey for instance. From Ottoman Empire to secular state. JFL.
 
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So? North African women are degenerates (same with many North African men), even in their own countries they act westernised. I've been to Morocco and Tunisia and was surprised how westernised/liberal they all were.

I live in a country with a decent muslim population and the difference between Muslim girls and non Muslim girls is night and day, even at their worst they're leagues better than non Muslim women. The whole "muslim women are just as bad bro!" is a cope by demoralised muslim men.
Its gonna collapse eventually. Already happening in Iran Only see islam surviving liberalism in Afghanistan.
 
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Which part of my post are you referring to?
A dude likes her etc. All I do is lame surface level convo I need to probe more tbh
 
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muslim/arab women are the most materialistic and high maintenance
 
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People dont realize that muslims are only as devout as they are because of the state. The more liberal the state the less "muslim" they become. I see this happening in Saudi Arabia to some extent.
Saudi is becoming socially liberal because the government is having a big push to make it more western friendly by making it less Islamic, going so far as to even normalise relations with Israel. Of course people will become less strict in their beliefs (both religious and other beliefs) as the enviorment and its morality changes but even despite this push for degeneracy they still largely remain religious as a whole. This applies to muslims across the ummah.



Its gonna collapse eventually. Already happening in Iran Only see islam surviving liberalism in Afghanistan.
Iran was always going to fail, they're hardly even an Islamic country and the push for an Islamic society was through a revolution that most iranians didn't even want. Iranians have always been giga westernised.
Even among giga cucked western nations like the UK, Muslims still remain largely firm in their beliefs. Again, the whole "muslims are like Christians and Jews" is a giga cope.

Could Islamic countries become more secular due to western pressure? Sure. Will muslims become as cucked as jews and Christians? No and if you think they will you must have a very narrow minded view of the muslims around the world.

Tl;dr: Will muslim countries survive liberalism and not be turned secular? Maybe, maybe not. Will islam survive liberalism? Yes it will.
 
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A dude likes her etc. All I do is lame surface level convo I need to probe more tbh
I was told by other classmates. The dude himself didn’t tell me. I look at him when she’s nearby and he’s always looking at her, it’s funny to see. Even female classmates knew and said he would not be successful with her. Behind his back of course.
 
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Saudi is becoming socially liberal because the government is having a big push to make it more western friendly by making it less Islamic, going so far as to even normalise relations with Israel. Of course people will become less strict in their beliefs (both religious and other beliefs) as the enviorment and its morality changes but even despite this push for degeneracy they still largely remain religious as a whole. This applies to muslims across the ummah.




Iran was always going to fail, they're hardly even an Islamic country and the push for an Islamic society was through a revolution that most iranians didn't even want. Iranians have always been giga westernised.
Even among giga cucked western nations like the UK, Muslims still remain largely firm in their beliefs. Again, the whole "muslims are like Christians and Jews" is a giga cope.

Could Islamic countries become more secular due to western pressure? Sure. Will muslims become as cucked as jews and Christians? No and if you think they will you must have a very narrow minded view of the muslims around the world.

Tl;Dr lifefuel for muslimcels, ropefuel for da doos and Christians


Muslims are already as "cucked" as christians and jews. Literally all muslims Ive met in europe never took their faith seriously. It was only old women and men and recent migrants. Once they pass on Islam will shrink, and Im not saying this to shit on Islam. Its just a fact for every religion. Christianity has already been through the entire process and Islam will eventually follow suit in the west and middle east.


Still, this shouldnt matter to you or me. Rather have 10 devout christians or muslims over 1million who only claim to be by name or because their family forced them to. Youre attatched to things of this world, youre more concerned with Islam's power and influence in the material world and thats why you get upset that the fastest growing religion isnt islam or christianity its secularism.
 
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I was told by other classmates. The dude himself didn’t tell me. I look at him when she’s nearby and he’s always looking at her, it’s funny to see. Even female classmates knew and said he would not be successful with her. Behind his back of course.
Brutal. I’m the same as him, pretty sure at least one or two people have realised that I stare at oneitis way too much, I do it whenever she’s in vicinity it’s ridiculous. She noticed me staring at her in a lecture once jfl.

This needs to stop
 
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Brutal. I’m the same as him, pretty sure at least one or two people have realised that I stare at oneitis way too much, I do it whenever she’s in vicinity it’s ridiculous. She noticed me staring at her in a lecture once jfl.

This needs to stop
He doesn’t stare at her but he just looks at her quietly for a few seconds. Since I know why it’s pretty funny. He’s not ugly, he’s like MTN but she’s HTB. I never stare at women myself. I know better since I’m too ugly.
 
Muslims are already as "cucked" as christians and jews. Literally all muslims Ive met in europe never took their faith seriously. It was only old women and men and recent migrants. Once they pass on Islam will shrink, and Im not saying this to shit on Islam. Its just a fact for every religion. Christianity has already been through the entire process and Islam will eventually follow suit in the west and middle east.


Still, this shouldnt matter to you or me. Rather have 10 devout christians or muslims over 1million who only claim to be by name or because their family forced them to. Youre attatched to things of this world, youre more concerned with Islam's power and influence in the material world and thats why you get upset that the fastest growing religion isnt islam or christianity its secularism.
Yes the kind of islam that people follow is a watered-down version of how it really is. Sad to say but it will only get worse. Although this was already predicted by the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
 
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Muslims are already as "cucked" as christians and jews. Literally all muslims Ive met in europe never took their faith seriously.
Most muslims in Europe I've met were Nafris and like I said before, they're cucked in their religion regardless of where they are.
I live in a western country and most muslims here are the complete opposite. Are they perfect flawless muslims? No ofc not but they are 10x better than any Christian, jew or athiest who doesn't know the first thing about their religion hence why I say that they're cucked and muslims are not or at least to a far lesser degree.
Once they pass on Islam will shrink, and Im not saying this to shit on Islam. Its just a fact for every religion.
Ofc Islam will decrease in it's strength as time goes on:

"Rather, on that day you will be many, but you will be like foam, like the foam on the river. And Allah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies and will throw wahn (weakness) into your hearts."

But the point is that there will always be far more religious and god aware people within Islam than any other religion, even when it inevitably becomes weak in its numbers.
Christianity has already been through the entire process and Islam will eventually follow suit in the west and middle east.
Christianity is a weak religion because it's been watered down and changed so much that it can't be used to rule a society or civilisation, even Christian scholars admit this. Islam is a far greater religion to live by though yes you're right that it's only a matter of time before secularism takes over muslim governments due to forced propaganda.
Still, this shouldnt matter to you or me. Rather have 10 devout christians or muslims over 1million who only claim to be by name or because their family forced them to.
Yes I agree.
Youre attatched to things of this world, youre more concerned with Islam's power and influence in the material world and thats why you get upset that the fastest growing religion isnt islam or christianity its secularism.
I am not attatched to this world, I'm contempt in my faith and my place on this rapidly becoming secular planet. I'm just pointing out that the situation is not as black and white as you're making it.
 
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Saudi is becoming socially liberal because the government is having a big push to make it more western friendly by making it less Islamic, going so far as to even normalise relations with Israel. Of course people will become less strict in their beliefs (both religious and other beliefs) as the enviorment and its morality changes but even despite this push for degeneracy they still largely remain religious as a whole. This applies to muslims across the ummah.




Iran was always going to fail, they're hardly even an Islamic country and the push for an Islamic society was through a revolution that most iranians didn't even want. Iranians have always been giga westernised.
Even among giga cucked western nations like the UK, Muslims still remain largely firm in their beliefs. Again, the whole "muslims are like Christians and Jews" is a giga cope.

Could Islamic countries become more secular due to western pressure? Sure. Will muslims become as cucked as jews and Christians? No and if you think they will you must have a very narrow minded view of the muslims around the world.

Tl;dr: Will muslim countries survive liberalism and not be turned secular? Maybe, maybe not. Will islam survive liberalism? Yes it will.

Just you wait until NEOM becomes a reality. Expats are pushing for alcohol to be legalised
 
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Just you wait until NEOM becomes a reality. Expats are pushing for alcohol to be legalised
Yeah, just look at the reaction to Qatar not allowing faggots. Only a matter of time before whites and their masters force everyone to follow the same rules.
 
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Yeah, just look at the reaction to Qatar not allowing faggots. Only a matter of time before whites and their masters force everyone to follow the same rules.
 
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Lmao based thread brother
 
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Reminder: op is not a real person it’s an ai bot
 
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women don't give a single fuck about that
they may want to cheat for whatever reason
there are women who travelled to syria and fought for isis, do you think they would cheat if they saw chads
 
His words make sense from a traditional point of view. Sadly or not, it can be kind of tradcoping unless you are living in pretty strict area, such as Saudi Arabia or North Caucasian republics of Russia.
 
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His words makes sense from a traditional point of view. Sadly or not, it can be kind of tradcoping unless you are living in pretty strict area, such as Saudi Arabia or North Caucasian republics of Russia.
We live in the UK. But all I want is an educated, pretty Muslim tradwaifu :feelsrope:
 
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We live in the UK. But all I want is an educated, pretty Muslim tradwaifu :feelsrope:
Whatever, just don't let yourself be fooled by "muh HQNP" and don't give yourself too much hopes in this regard. Focus on your looks, health, education, career, consider marriage less as the main goal of life and more as an addition to it, to otherwise fulfilling life.
 
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Whatever, just don't let yourself be fooled by "muh HQNP" and don't give yourself too much hopes in this regard. Focus on your looks, health, education, career, consider marriage less as the main goal of life and more as an addition to it, to otherwise fulfilling life.
I would feel like I've failed if my future wife isn't HQNP.
 
Its over for muslims. even the men are getting western rhinoplasties, and her whole family is surgerymaxed.
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I would feel like I've failed if my future wife isn't HQNP.
Understandable, but what you have to remember is that being educated and religious doesn't always mean "high quality", she may quote religious literature yet hypocritically find a lot of ways to ruin your nerves, directly or indirectly, being too demanding, and sometimes you don't realize it until you get married. Better to be skeptical
 
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Understandable, but what you have to remember is that being educated and religious doesn't always mean "high quality", she may quote religious literature yet hypocritically find a lot of ways to ruin your nerves, directly or indirectly, being too demanding, and sometimes you don't realize it until you get married. Better to be skeptical
At least it's a start but I do have to watch out for those who are faking being HQNP
 

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