Daily Reminder on Eye Area

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IMHO the most important area of the face because you need a good combination of hard and soft tissue to come together in unison

Mouth Area and Jaw come in second and third

Let's extract some interesting conclusions from this chart. I know it's only 100 male participants, but I compared the numbers with bigger studies and they were similar

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- People with good PFW like chico, O'pry and Gandy are quite rare. The lowest of those 3 has a 36mm PFL and that puts them at 3.3+ SD(1 in 1000)
- In combination with something like an average to below average palpebral fissure height that easily jumps (1 in 2000)

- People with negative or neutral cantal tilt are less than 2% of the population ~ -2.1SD. That why it immediately stuck out to everyone when @FatmanO his pics. However his cantal tilt is the least important on this list. If you disagree daily reminder this guy went from nothing to 2mil + IG followers with his face alone and he has NCT



- A good PFL pretty much set's up your eye area for greatness. It increase's your interpupillary, intercanthal, and outercanthal distance

So What Makes a Good Eye Area

> Pretty much that with good hooding(dosen't have to be 100% hooded see clarenceNYC), good eyelashes, descent brows, on a skull with wide cheek bones is pretty much the ideal (A 4.8 outercanthal distance would look ridiculous on a 5.5 bizygomatic)


All these variables is why eye area is king there's no other area that is more complex

Also from a biological perspective no other animal see's better than us besides birds. Our brains are optimized around vision

However the mouth area is a close second, and I may make an article about that one as well
 
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"People with negative or neutral cantal tilt are less than 2% of the population"

What? No way 98% of people have a PCT.
 
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My eye area is pretty good but can't save my terrible lower third :feelsrope:
 
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"People with negative or neutral cantal tilt are less than 2% of the population"

What? No way 98% of people have a PCT.

It only really becomes a problem when it's 3-5 SD below average as it is with Fatman

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My eye area is pretty good but can't save my terrible lower third :feelsrope:

Yea I'm sorry if your lower third is really bad eye area won't save you, but you can still be a normie unless it's really deformed.
Fillers and chewing are always an option
 
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What if you have normal eyebrows but you also have mild upper eyelid exposure; could the eye area be saved? I would say no, but I would like opinions.
 
It only really becomes a problem when it's 3-5 SD below average as it is with Fatman

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Yea I'm sorry if your lower third is really bad eye area won't save you, but you can still be a normie unless it's really deformed.
Fillers and chewing are always an option
lord and savior,

It is possible to decrease Palebral fissure height through lower eyelid retraction . What about increasing palebral fissure width? Canthopdexy?
 
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Under eye support and PFW failo me hard. Any advice?
 
Any non surgical options?
Squinting for better PFW and fillers for under eye if you have darkness. Sleeping well, diet, etc can also help with under eye darkness but other then that not much can be done without surgery
 
Under eye support and PFW failo me hard. Any advice?

About Eye Surgeries:

I'm sorry nothing can be done surgically

The eye area and the muscles surrounding it are more complex than a rolex watch

You surgically enhance this area to your great chagrin except for a few basic surgeries

lord and savior,

It is possible to decrease Palebral fissure height through lower eyelid retraction . What about increasing palebral fissure width? Canthopdexy?

Lower eyelid retraction will change inclination and have a marginal effect on both PFW and PFL

Read above for what I said about eye surgeries

Under eye support and PFW failo me hard. Any advice?

Sorry bro focus on lower third

Read above for what I said about eye surgeries

What if you have normal eyebrows but you also have mild upper eyelid exposure; could the eye area be saved? I would say no, but I would like opinions.

Upper eyelid exposure is a lookism meme. It really only helps guys with smaller PFL/PFW ratio, so it might or might not failo you

I analyzed my personally facebook and IG pictures

Pictures where I raised my eyebrows got more likes/comments from females and males

Why?

My PFW/PFL ratio is like 3.3-3.6

It mogs most models like O'pry and Gandy to hell

but there skin mogs mines to oblivion

Until my skin is finished transcending to model tier from my collagen/skin program I'll be in the average PSL 3-5 range
Squinting for better PFW and fillers for under eye if you have darkness. Sleeping well, diet, etc can also help with under eye darkness but other then that not much can be done without surgery

Squinting drops me to the ground in terms of attraction maybe the only time it helps is male -> male intimidation
- Read what I said to @TRUE_CEL about PFW/PFL ratio
 
Upper eyelid exposure is a lookism meme. It really only helps guys with smaller PFL/PFW ratio, so it might or might not failo you

I analyzed my personally facebook and IG pictures

Pictures where I raised my eyebrows got more likes/comments from females and males

Why?

My PFW/PFL ratio is like 3.3-3.6

It mogs most models like O'pry and Gandy to hell

but there skin mogs mines to oblivion

Until my skin is finished transcending to model tier from my collagen/skin program I'll be in the average PSL 3-5 range

Thanks for the detailed answer. What does PWL/PFL stand for? And how can I measure it? I feel like my mild upper eyelid exposure does failo me, because of how much exposure there is. But, unlike most lookism posters I don't agree upper eyelid exposure is a bad thing, only if it's mild like it is the case with me. The best looking guy I know, for instance, has upper eyelid exposure and hooded eyes would actually detract from his looks. I also have bad undereye support.
 
Not sure I get the secret to Instagram followers. Some people have too many and some to little. Also clarence has his left eye less hooded
 
Very true, what would you say is better, 100% no eyelid exposure hooded, neutral tilt or pct hunter eyes?
 
either way, i have no way to measure mine

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fatman saying that hes average is one of the funniest delusions a psl user has ever had
 
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Source of that data? The values seem huge. The average ipd is 64mm and average PFL is 28mm and i say this after having read stats which involved n=1000+ predominantly northern euros.
 
Source of that data? The values seem huge. The average ipd is 64mm and average PFL is 28mm and i say this after having read stats which involved n=1000+ predominantly northern euros.

That's impossible my PFL is like 36-38mm if that were the case I'd be like 6-8SD above average . While with this one I'm like 3.5SD which is more believable

Depending on where in Europe the PFL could be much smaller. From what I know only the German, and to some extent Italian, people have good PFL most other countries are below average
fatman saying that hes average is one of the funniest delusions a psl user has ever had

Unfortunately he's going to have to gymcell, collagenmax, neck train, and salary max just to be average to upper average
Very true, what would you say is better, 100% no eyelid exposure hooded, neutral tilt or pct hunter eyes?

Depends on the face PCT is a pretty feature can look really good on a masc face
either way, i have no way to measure mine

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Didn't run it through my software , but I'd say ~ 30-31

Medial Canthus + PCT + eyelashes and brows halo you though

More PFL would have made your eye super slayer, but we can't have everything in this life
 
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IMHO the most important area of the face because you need a good combination of hard and soft tissue to come together in unison

Mouth Area and Jaw come in second and third

Let's extract some interesting conclusions from this chart. I know it's only 100 male participants, but I compared the numbers with bigger studies and they were similar

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- People with good PFW like chico, O'pry and Gandy are quite rare. The lowest of those 3 has a 36mm PFL and that puts them at 3.3+ SD(1 in 1000)
- In combination with something like an average to below average palpebral fissure height that easily jumps (1 in 2000)

- People with negative or neutral cantal tilt are less than 2% of the population ~ -2.1SD. That why it immediately stuck out to everyone when @FatmanO his pics. However his cantal tilt is the least important on this list. If you disagree daily reminder this guy went from nothing to 2mil + IG followers with his face alone and he has NCT



- A good PFL pretty much set's up your eye area for greatness. It increase's your interpupillary, intercanthal, and outercanthal distance

So What Makes a Good Eye Area

> Pretty much that with good hooding(dosen't have to be 100% hooded see clarenceNYC), good eyelashes, descent brows, on a skull with wide cheek bones is pretty much the ideal (A 4.8 outercanthal distance would look ridiculous on a 5.5 bizygomatic)


All these variables is why eye area is king there's no other area that is more complex

Also from a biological perspective no other animal see's better than us besides birds. Our brains are optimized around vision

However the mouth area is a close second, and I may make an article about that one as well

in my opinion hooded eyes + negative canthus is a super slayer combination.
two ex-boyfriend of my oneitis have this sort of eyes
 
Damn, I have SEVERE Negative Cantal Tilt.

Its fucking over for me.
 
That's impossible my PFL is like 36-38mm if that were the case I'd be like 6-8SD above average . While with this one I'm like 3.5SD which is more believable

Depending on where in Europe the PFL could be much smaller. From what I know only the German, and to some extent Italian, people have good PFL most other countries are below average


Unfortunately he's going to have to gymcell, collagenmax, neck train, and salary max just to be average to upper average


Depends on the face PCT is a pretty feature can look really good on a masc face


Didn't run it through my software , but I'd say ~ 30-31

Medial Canthus + PCT + eyelashes and brows halo you though

More PFL would have made your eye super slayer, but we can't have everything in this life

just measured it, you have a good eye, no pun intended
 
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How do I cope with never having a good eye area ?
 
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Respect..u are the first one who see importance of mouth area..it was msot underrated at lookism for sure
 
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It only really becomes a problem when it's 3-5 SD below average as it is with Fatman

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Yea I'm sorry if your lower third is really bad eye area won't save you, but you can still be a normie unless it's really deformed.
Fillers and chewing are always an option
Yeah tbh my eye area really kills me but its not so deformed to make me a truecel. Really waste of good potential tbh. Its not a killer trait tho just a big disatvantage
fatman saying that hes average is one of the funniest delusions a psl user has ever had
Depends where Im from. In Slovenia I am. In ex- Sweden, I am not.
owever his cantal tilt is the least important on this list.
What do you mean by that?
fatman saying that hes average is one of the funniest delusions a psl user has ever had
Also Id like to add to the face eyes are really important. They are. But Id say some women don't value NCT as much as other women. Some percentage see it as attractive (but they do prefer hooded eyes)

Its not over tho and as bad feature if your a 5' 3'' for example tbh. It really gives a shitty thing to face but Im luckily 6' 1''

 
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lol this thread was absolute fukin bullshit dog
 
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imo eye area and jaw are equal in terms of SMV. you lack one of those and you're done for.
 
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