Dating-Apps continue going further downhill every year.

[MoggerGaston]

I use the same good photos of myself as I did 3 years ago when I was 23. I also still put my age as 23 in the dating-apps cuz I don't want ugly roasties.

Fact is, the quality of matches has gone down, the number of matches, the quality of conversation, the amount of dates I am able to pull. Everything is downhill strongly, despite having far more experience and confidence with women now then I did back then.

Redpillers say enjoy the decline. What is there to enjoy when dating-apps are fucking dead lol. IRL/clubgame has been dead for a long time now.

The only thing left standing is social-circle game but given the whole covid thing (that is 100% going to return in the fall) that shit is fucked too.

its over

 

[Niklaus Mikaelson]

I use the same good photos of myself as I did 3 years ago when I was 23. I also still put my age as 23 in the dating-apps cuz I don't want ugly roasties.

Fact is, the quality of matches has gone down, the number of matches, the quality of conversation, the amount of dates I am able to pull. Everything is downhill strongly, despite having far more experience and confidence with women now then I did back then.

Redpillers say enjoy the decline. What is there to enjoy when dating-apps are fucking dead lol. IRL/clubgame has been dead for a long time now.

The only thing left standing is social-circle game but given the whole covid thing (that is 100% going to return in the fall) that shit is fucked too.

its over

Fix your Elo

 

[MoggerGaston]

Fix your Elo Face

 

[Deleted member 11097]

More people have access to good phones and internet, therefore more people end up on dating apps.

More users = more competition. So if you’re not a genetic specimen in the top 5% of males, you’re left out.

 

[Pendejo]

Shut up nigger, your face is good.

Just do like @Niko69 and take better pics.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Shut up nigger, your face is good.

Just do like @Niko69 and take better pics.

Not good enough in 2022

 

[Deleted member 20677]

Not good enough in 2022

It`s your narrow jaw and your upper lip that screw you tbh
Also it is good that almost everyone I know irl in my city uses Tinder?

 

[MoggerGaston]

It`s your narrow jaw and your upper lip that screw you tbh
Also it is good that almost everyone I know irl in my city uses Tinder?

I also look old cuz of nasolabial folds which are far more prominent IRL than in this pic.

Idk. I am the only guy I know that uses tinder here. I guess more ppl using it is more women to pick from tbh.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You need to fraud and morph your pics just to get even close to a level playing field these days

 

[thereallegend]

More people have access to good phones and internet, therefore more people end up on dating apps.

More users = more competition. So if you’re not a genetic specimen in the top 5% of males, you’re left out.

98/2

 

[It'snotover]

Shut up nigger, your face is good.

Just do like @Niko69 and take better pics.

Is this op's trasformation? Looks good

 

[Johnnybegood]

Shut up nigger, your face is good.

Wait is that you @MoggerGaston ? Impressive how leanmaxxing changes the face.

What percentage of bf you estimate you had in late 2013 compared to 2018?

 

[MoggerGaston]

Wait is that you @MoggerGaston ? Impressive how leanmaxxing changes the face.

What percentage of bf you estimate you had in late 2013 compared to 2018?

I've never been close to a sixpack. I've been around 16-17% on my leanest in 2018 tbh. 25-30% in 2013.

Anyways those last 2 pics are frauded to hell with light/angle. I look like shit IRL. Never had a real girlfriend yet at 26yo jfl.

 

[Johnnybegood]

I've never been close to a sixpack. I've been around 16-17% on my leanest in 2018 tbh. 25-30% in 2013.

Anyways those last 2 pics are frauded to hell with light/angle. I look like shit IRL. Never had a real girlfriend yet at 26yo jfl.

You mog 70% of men at least...AT LEAST

 

[MoggerGaston]

You mog 70% of men at least...AT LEAST

But not the 30% of men that are my actual competition in life for women, good jobs, good social life, status, etc.

Making it irrelevant.

 

[Johnnybegood]

But not the 30% of men that are my actual competition in life for women, good jobs, good social life, status, etc.

Making it irrelevant.

I said at least. I think even a guy in the 90th percentile will not look as impressive with a front profile selfie...which is very very difficult to look impressive unless you're a legit chadlite

 

[Marco Polo]

Most people meet through social circles and social media, but not dating apps, usually it's apps like Instagram, plenty of people meet there nowdays, so basically social circle and Instagram max

 

[MoggerGaston]

I said at least. I think even a guy in the 90th percentile will not look as impressive with a front profile selfie...which is very very difficult to look impressive unless you're a legit chadlite

I am not that good-looking this selfie with light from above doesn't reflect how I look. Under normal daylight I'd look like this:

its not good enough, but doesnt rly matter anymore at this point im too old.

 

[Marco Polo]

I am not that good-looking this selfie with light from above doesn't reflect how I look. Under normal daylight I'd look like this:

its not good enough, but doesnt rly matter anymore at this point im too old.

You remind me of that traveling YouTuber:

 

[Johnnybegood]

I am not that good-looking this selfie with light from above doesn't reflect how I look. Under normal daylight I'd look like this:

its not good enough, but doesnt rly matter anymore at this point im too old.

Interesting how you have a compact midface ratio and yet your midface is subpar compared to your other facial thirds. I think having nasolabial folds and a somewhat wide nasal bridge doesn't look good on you. But those are minor flaws. You look good enough to not bitch everyday about your life.

 

[the BULL]

Opposite for me. They didn't work 1 year ago and now i match with gl girls. Even if i get few matches they're still enough to fuck a lot of girls with minimal effort. You don't Need really Need 500 matches, that's overkill. Also never paid to this day. If i spent Money on Gold and boost i could probably get more.

 

[MoggerGaston]

You remind me of that traveling YouTuber:

View attachment 1803441

similar hair, nose, eyebrows, nasolabial folds, recessed hairline. I can see the similarities.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Interesting how you have a compact midface ratio and yet your midface is subpar compared to your other facial thirds. I think having nasolabial folds and a somewhat wide nasal bridge doesn't look good on you. But those are minor flaws. You look good enough to not bitch everyday about your life.

My nasolabial folds are a major flaw imo. Make me look way older and uglier.

I am not ugly, but I am not good-looking. Normie-tier, aka invisible to any attractive women. I am part of the ~50% of young men that are incels in the modern day.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Opposite for me. They didn't work 1 year ago and now i match with gl girls. Even if i get few matches they're still enough to fuck a lot of girls with minimal effort. You don't Need really Need 500 matches, that's overkill. Also never paid to this day. If i spent Money on Gold and boost i could probably get more.

did you change location or pictures?

 

[the BULL]

did you change location or pictures?

Same location different pics. There are a lot of tourist right now here though so that May be the reason. The best looking girl i fucked Is from Vienna

 

[MoggerGaston]

Same location different pics. There are a lot of tourist right now here though so that May be the reason. The best looking girl i fucked Is from Vienna

You fuck mostly tourists or locals?

I've noticed in the netherlands I do extremely poor with locals, despite those being the majority of women on tinder and living in my area.

Like 90% of my dates are with foreign students. Usually from germany or france.

 

[the BULL]

You fuck mostly tourists or locals?

I've noticed in the netherlands I do extremely poor with locals, despite those being the majority of women on tinder and living in my area.

Like 90% of my dates are with foreign students. Usually from germany or france.

All tourists. They're here for a few days and want to get fucked quickly. Only 2 were foreigners though the rest italian

 

[Blackgymmax]

Not good enough in 2022

do people say you look unapproachable irl

 

[6ft4]

I use the same good photos of myself as I did 3 years ago when I was 23. I also still put my age as 23 in the dating-apps cuz I don't want ugly roasties.

Fact is, the quality of matches has gone down, the number of matches, the quality of conversation, the amount of dates I am able to pull. Everything is downhill strongly, despite having far more experience and confidence with women now then I did back then.

I did the same and noticed the same outcomes
2020 fucked tinder for good flooding it with even more cunts who never intend to meet anyone from it
You also need to pay for features that were free a few years ago and the prices of these features keep going up so only people that are paying for premium and constantly boosting their profiles are getting a good chance to be seen

 

[Blackgymmax]

It`s your narrow jaw and your upper lip that screw you tbh
Also it is good that almost everyone I know irl in my city uses Tinder?

its not narrow. its just as wide as ashton kutchers

 

[MoggerGaston]

do people say you look unapproachable irl

Never heard a comment like this tbh.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Never heard a comment like this tbh.

you look kinda angry in your neutral face so i thought people would tell you that

 

[Deleted member 18694]

Fix your Elo

are you the official niko from reddit?

 

[Niklaus Mikaelson]

are you the official niko from reddit?

Am indeed

 

[Deleted member 18694]

Am indeed

Damn did u join cuz xangane reached out to you?

 

[Niklaus Mikaelson]

Damn did u join cuz xangane reached out to you?

Had quite a few reaching out to me, but basically yeah. Also I wanted to reply to the many threads about me before I was a member

 

[Britmaxxer]

I got a lot of matches on tinder in 2020 and before, even got a slay from it.

I remember in 2018 I had a freaky 30 year old wanting me to join her and another dude for a threesome jfl, that would never happen today


tinder in 2022 is a fucking wasteland. women have gotten even pickier and guys have gotten even more desperate.

I remember complaining on psl about dating before covid but it was actually easy as fuck back then compared to now.

 

[Deleted member 18694]

I am not that good-looking this selfie with light from above doesn't reflect how I look. Under normal daylight I'd look like this:

its not good enough, but doesnt rly matter anymore at this point im too old.

yeah nasol folds and hairloss.

bulborous ethnic nose


ur matches declined cuz of the influx of new males joining tinder thanks to the pandemic. Competition is even higher for fighting for scraps for the 95% of males

 

[MoggerGaston]

yeah nasol folds and hairloss.

bulborous ethnic nose


ur matches declined cuz of the influx of new males joining tinder thanks to the pandemic. Competition is even higher for fighting for scraps for the 95% of males

nasol folds are unfixable, is the main issue.
Which means I can't get much better looking than I am now with softmaxxing, basic surgeries tbh. Demotivating.

I should stop caring about looks and focus on other ways to get better life quality I guess. Throw away expectations of sex/LTR/family.

Oldcels I know all cope with eating at fancy restaurants, expensive holidays, etc. Maybe it's the better life afterall.

 

[Deleted member 18694]

nasol folds are unfixable, is the main issue.

Microneedling, laser resurfacing, fat injections....UMMMM HALLLO????

Oldcels I know all cope with eating out to fancy restaurants, expensive holidays, etc. Maybe it's the better life afterall.

Some of these black pillers will say I'm coping but call it what you want. There are other things to experience in life than getting sex.

 

[Niklaus Mikaelson]

@MoggerGaston this is what you're dealing with now (one of my matches tinder insight - london)

 

[MoggerGaston]

Microneedling, laser resurfacing, fat injections....UMMMM HALLLO????

They aren't wrinkles. They are the lines that form when I smile. U want to inject those away? For sure u'd look botched as fuck.

Unfixable.

Some of these black pillers will say I'm coping but call it what you want. There are other things to experience in life than getting sex.

It was never about sex though. It's about validation mostly.

I lost interest in most other aspects of life ngl. Studying/working seems like slavery to me at this point. Travelling feels kinda bland, etc.

Drugs+Techno music are the best way for me to enjoy life atm.

 

[Blackgymmax]

@MoggerGaston this is what you're dealing with now (one of my matches tinder insight - london) View attachment 1803511

do women ever end up with a guy in 2022? or do they just stay in weird dating limbo

 

[Johnnybegood]

My nasolabial folds are a major flaw imo. Make me look way older and uglier.

I am not ugly, but I am not good-looking. Normie-tier, aka invisible to any attractive women. I am part of the ~50% of young men that are incels in the modern day.

You are good looking enough to not be an incel. But if you're expecting a HTB+ to just fall on your lap without having solid Chadlite looks or solid status, you will struggle.

Obviously there is luck but i hate having to rely on luck because it is outside of one's control.

 

[MoggerGaston]

@MoggerGaston this is what you're dealing with now (one of my matches tinder insight - london) View attachment 1803511

Women that stay on tinder for more than a few months seem useless to me.
A woman can get on tinder, setup 10 dates with attractive top-tier men in a month, pick 1-2 fwbs from those, and delete the app.
If she's on there for much longer it means she is just using it for attention/instagram followers or smth.

 

[Deleted member 18694]

They aren't wrinkles. They are the lines that form when I smile. U want to inject those away? For sure u'd look botched as fuck.

What lol. A simple surgery like that isn't gonna botch you up. You're on looksmax

Unfixable.


It was never about sex though. It's about validation mostly.

I lost interest in most other aspects of life ngl. Studying/working seems like slavery to me at this point. Travelling feels kinda bland, etc.

Drugs+Techno music are the best way for me to enjoy life atm.

Drugs just gonna age you even further

 

[Johnnybegood]

do women ever end up with a guy in 2022? or do they just stay in weird dating limbo

Where i'm from it's 50-50 until 25-27 then they try to lock a LTR with some normie-HTN guy without much status to then proceed to have a family with him

The other 50% lock a solid relationship while in college and stay with the same guy throughout their twenties...whether they cheat or not...i don't know. Usually these girls are super cute and very stable minded, they really make you feel like you should've tried harder in your late teens early twenties

 

[MoggerGaston]

You are good looking enough to not be an incel. But if you're expecting a HTB+ to just fall on your lap without having solid Chadlite looks or solid status, you will struggle.

Obviously there is luck but i hate having to rely on luck because it is outside of one's control.

There's no way to obtain solid status for me in a realistic time window, and also no way to ascend to chadlite looks. So struggle it is.

At some point one goes semi-mgtow I guess. I doubt i'll ever get reciprocative attention from a girl I really like enough to LTR at this point.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

do women ever end up with a guy in 2022? or do they just stay in weird dating limbo

I’ve genuinely noticed this happening more and more

Women often have such high standards that a man who can fulfill them doesn’t even exist - they hold out for years and years and years rejecting men then eventually give up and settle for a betabux or become a crazy old cat woma

 

[MoggerGaston]

What lol. A simple surgery like that isn't gonna botch you up. You're on looksmax

View attachment 1803519

Which surgery is this?

Drugs just gonna age you even further

Doesn't matter. Aging is mostly genetic. I already look old despite having 0 sun-damage or having done much drugs at all yet.

At this point might aswell just enjoy life since aging is unavoidable.