Dating in your 20s

[Deleted member 5301]

How will a man who hasn’t dated in their teen years suddenly date in their 20s? Mentally, they are still a child while most normal women are presumable mentally mature with at least some experience.

I imagine there will be many trial and error runs where the woman decides that you are mentally unfit or immature.


In addition to this, the women will probably also lack the excitement since nothing about a relationship is new to them, so the “butterflies in your stomach feeling” won’t be there any more.

This is a brutal blackpill. Even if u are physically ascended with good SMV how will u cope with this?

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Women>

Mentally mature>

 

[alchem44]

Agreed, pretty brutal. I have never been in a ltr and getting to the age where that is a pretty big red flag. Not even sure how to explain it to a chick.

 

[Deleted]

I already feel old

Relationships when school is over seems horrible

 

[Deleted member 2100]

Either lie and say youve fucked a girl before or be honest and maybe one will be open to that.

 

[Deleted member 5301]

Women>

Mentally mature>

I see what ur saying but at the same time you won’t be on the same level of experience as them in terms of relationship savvy.

Agreed, pretty brutal. I have never been in a ltr and getting to the age where that is a pretty big red flag. Not even sure how to explain it to a chick.

It’s a big red flag and it’s not something I would share. But it’s hard to hide, too. Especially if she has expectations about how u will behave etc

I already feel old

Relationships when school is over seems horrible

Same I feel old as fuck in this sense even though I’m fairly young. I will have to ExperienceMaxx somehow or Fraudmaxx until that point.

 

[Deleted member 5301]

Either lie and say youve fucked a girl before or be honest and maybe one will be open to that.

Obviously I would never divulge the fact that I have no experience. The challenge is behaving in a normie but not Simp-like manner either

 

[Back Alley Boy]

How will a man who hasn’t dated in their teen years suddenly date in their 20s? Mentally, they are still a child while most normal women are presumable mentally mature with at least some experience.

I imagine there will be many trial and error runs where the woman decides that you are mentally unfit or immature.


In addition to this, the women will probably also lack the excitement since nothing about a relationship is new to them, so the “butterflies in your stomach feeling” won’t be there any more.

This is a brutal blackpill. Even if u are physically ascended with good SMV how will u cope with this?

just coom ™

 

[Deleted member 5301]

just coom ™

Over

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Women>

Mentally mature>

the main argument against my jb pills is the "mental immaturity" of teenage girls (keyword: teenage, not prepubescents)

 

[Deleted member 4464]

liemaxxing it is, if you are a social outcast which barely anybody knows it will be even easier to make up things since nobody was there and can say "bro why are you lying this never happened"

 

[Deleted member 5301]

liemaxxing it is, if you are a social outcast which barely anybody knows it will be even easier to make up things since nobody was there and can say "bro why are you lying this never happened"

Yes ur right. I will read up on real tinder stories and actually study this shit JFL (srs). I assume the first few times will be torture and shit but whatever

 

[eduardkoopman]

How will a man who hasn’t dated in their teen years suddenly date in their 20s? Mentally, they are still a child while most normal women are presumable mentally mature with at least some experience.

I imagine there will be many trial and error runs where the woman decides that you are mentally unfit or immature.


In addition to this, the women will probably also lack the excitement since nothing about a relationship is new to them, so the “butterflies in your stomach feeling” won’t be there any more.

This is a brutal blackpill. Even if u are physically ascended with good SMV how will u cope with this?

This was me. Because late when lost my v card.
I tried to play catch up. But I do think it's not the same. Would it had happened at teens

 

[Deleted member 5301]

This was me. Because late when lost my v card.
I tried to play catch up. But I do think it's not the same. Would it had happened at teens

And how was your experience during this phase?

 

[Bewusst]

If that's your only "problem", your life seems pretty good to me

 

[Deleted member 4612]

strategy is to date inexperienced teens (legally, check local age of consent laws)

 

[eduardkoopman]

And how was your experience during this phase?

in short. i was kissless virgin till mid 20's. I started going mass-chatting up in a pua-ish way since I was 23-24 orso. Still took me 2+ years and like 300+ chatups to lose muh v-card.
After that, I had in the next 2 years some experieces, short flings. And after that I entered a LTR that lasted 5 years orso.
The flings were fun. But I do think if I had them at 17, it would had been like 5x more/better experience.
Because, the female more enthusiast at 16. Because muh hormones stronegr. Because, more free time at 17 years old to hang with each other do silly stuff, do fun stuff, and just be chilling with each other.
So that, guess. makes me kinda think. that at 20's at best you can experience a lite version of what teen can be like. in this regard.

Plus. it's f*ing brutal. To persue stuff in 20's; that most women passed that phase already in their teens and are looking for something else than that. So get seen as immature, not grown up, in ones wants, and outlook. That's mentally a bit brutal, I gotta admit.

 

[Deleted member 275]

in short. i was kissless virgin till mid 20's. I started going mass-chatting up in a pua-ish way since I was 23-24 orso. Still took me 2+ years and like 300+ chatups to lose muh v-card.
After that, I had in the next 2 years some experieces, short flings. And after that I entered a LTR that lasted 5 years orso.
The flings were fun. But I do think if I had them at 17, it would had been like 5x more/better experience.
Because, the female more enthusiast at 16. Because muh hormones stronegr. Because, more free time at 17 years old to hang with each other do silly stuff, do fun stuff, and just be chilling with each other.
So that, guess. makes me kinda think. that at 20's at best you can experience a lite version of what teen can be like. in this regard.

Do you think you were less enthusiast yourself?

I had this myself that as a teenager I used to feel love really strong and I had much more enthusiasm/emotion/hormones aswell.

When I started dating in my mid 20s it all felt more bland tbh even though I was still KHHV.

 

[Deleted member 9779]

How will a man who hasn’t dated in their teen years suddenly date in their 20s? Mentally, they are still a child while most normal women are presumable mentally mature with at least some experience.

I imagine there will be many trial and error runs where the woman decides that you are mentally unfit or immature.


In addition to this, the women will probably also lack the excitement since nothing about a relationship is new to them, so the “butterflies in your stomach feeling” won’t be there any more.

This is a brutal blackpill. Even if u are physically ascended with good SMV how will u cope with this?

 

[eduardkoopman]

Do you think you were less enthusiast yourself?

Defenately. Hormones are in teens more in over drive; and control is low. So everything gets experienced, on an hormonal and mental levels much stronger than later on.
The way I could feel, love and go for something like this at 16. I could not at 26. And defenately not at 36.

The older I get. The more the "practical" elements seem to come into play and be important, in relationships with the opposite sex. And that is fucking boring, and brutals negotiations to get each pther to give in and compromise on the practial elements.
While I assume, teen love, is more uncomplicated, not burdened by practical shit much, less baggage. Just you and her, and time, and chilling with each other.

 

[eduardkoopman]

When I started dating in my mid 20s it all felt more bland tbh even though I was still KHHV.

I was mad motivated. But more out of pain, than the motvation for sex. Being a KHHV, made me feel really bad about myself. And that's why I was mad motivated. That's why I never visited a hooker than (and never untill now). I wanted to be chosen by a female, that she wants to have sex with me, lusts for me.
I guess I needed, female romantic/sexual validation to feel better about myself. Peopls call it soy, and should not care other opinion, etc... But I sadly don't opperate like that, I do need that a little bit to feel good.
I was extremely happy for some time, and also overall felt better nearly always, after losing my v-card. Just the knowledge that at least 1 woman of decent looks found me hot (enough) to have sex with me, was lifefuel.

I would feel so bad. If I didn't manage to lose the v-card at mid 20's and be like this. I would mentally be dead.

 

[Deleted member 275]

I was mad motivated. But more out of pain, than the motvation for sex. Being a KHHV, made me feel really bad about myself. And that's why I was mad motivated. That's why I never visited a hooker than (and never untill now). I wanted to be chosen by a female, that she wants to have sex with me, lusts for me.
I guess I needed, female romantic/sexual validation to feel better about myself. Peopls call it soy, and should not care other opinion, etc... But I sadly don't opperate like that, I do need that a little bit to feel good.
I was extremely happy for some time, and also overall felt better nearly always, after losing my v-card. Just the knowledge that at least 1 woman of decent looks found me hot (enough) to have sex with me, was lifefuel.

I would feel so bad. If I didn't manage to lose the v-card at mid 20's and be like this. I would mentally be dead.

Interesting tbh, whole different mindset than me I think.
I never cared much about the v-card itself, which is also why I never bothered with prostitutes. But I also didn't care that much about female affection/validation anymore.

For me it was always out of a place of envy/jealousy, that I wanted that certain lifestyle that others would admire and that I myself could look back on and be happy with. So that when I see other youngsters having love-lives, instead of feeling sad/angry, I could reflect on own, similar experiences. I have this when watching movies nowadays that when theres love/sex involved I feel sad/angry. Didn't have that in my teens when I was still full of hope that these experiences would also come to me soon.

Like right now I literally have on my bucketlist to have sex in (semi)-public locations multiple times. So that I won't feel angry/sad when I see others do this in public or even in movies/socialmedia. But instead have my own memories to reflect upon.

Idk kinda weird tbh.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

I give up on relationship I’m just not meant to have them

 

[Deleted member 5574]

I give up on relationship I’m just not meant to have them

leanmax
good haircut
self-sufficient

you mindset wont be the same once you level up

try it then ,life will be soooo different

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Either lie and say youve fucked a girl before or be honest and maybe one will be open to that.

Extremely unlikely they would tolerate it

 

[Beetlejuice]

It is over

 

[Deleted member 2100]

Extremely unlikely they would tolerate it

It is what it is. Theres 2 options.

 

[Deleted member 756]

How will a man who hasn’t dated in their teen years suddenly date in their 20s? Mentally, they are still a child while most normal women are presumable mentally mature with at least some experience.

I imagine there will be many trial and error runs where the woman decides that you are mentally unfit or immature.


In addition to this, the women will probably also lack the excitement since nothing about a relationship is new to them, so the “butterflies in your stomach feeling” won’t be there any more.

This is a brutal blackpill. Even if u are physically ascended with good SMV how will u cope with this?

You just lie
I have very low smv but I’m dating in my 20s

 

[Deleted member 10536]

There is this thing called brainwashing. You can in fact brainwash yourself into believing that anything has happened. So one could... Do just that. And proceed on living in the lie from there on in. That's not something I'd like to do, but what other option is there?
Just repeatedly tell the story to yourself and don't give up on making yourself believe whatever you tell yourself. Do drugs on top, idk.

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

leanmax
good haircut
self-sufficient

you mindset wont be the same once you level up

try it then ,life will be soooo different

@SubhumanCurrycel just gwt a haircut bro

 

[Deleted member 10536]

@SubhumanCurrycel just gwt a haircut bro

That's what people tell me.
Imagine living in this same world with these 2 people...

 

[fukmylyf]

Interesting tbh, whole different mindset than me I think.
I never cared much about the v-card itself, which is also why I never bothered with prostitutes. But I also didn't care that much about female affection/validation anymore.

For me it was always out of a place of envy/jealousy, that I wanted that certain lifestyle that others would admire and that I myself could look back on and be happy with. So that when I see other youngsters having love-lives, instead of feeling sad/angry, I could reflect on own, similar experiences. I have this when watching movies nowadays that when theres love/sex involved I feel sad/angry. Didn't have that in my teens when I was still full of hope that these experiences would also come to me soon.

Like right now I literally have on my bucketlist to have sex in (semi)-public locations multiple times. So that I won't feel angry/sad when I see others do this in public or even in movies/socialmedia. But instead have my own memories to reflect upon.

Idk kinda weird tbh.

this is so relatable. I got a list too. Like I actually went through the trouble of calculating what I missed out on, setting benchmarks, etc. Got everything mapped out in an excel document jfl. Aspie af but whatever. I think I can reach my goals. Already had some of the best experiences of my life in 2018 and 2019. People say u can't make up for lost time, but we'll see. Keep ur head up nig