David Laid’s clavicles aren’t that wide

[Saint Casanova]

It’s just that he has a big scapula and very tiny hips/waist

 

[User28823]

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[Funnyunenjoyer1]

It’s just that he has a big scapula and very tiny hips/waist
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he is flaring his lats out in here which makes your frame look 10x wider

 

[Saint Casanova]

Maybe but you can see his clavicles regardless

 

[RealNinja]

Bideltoid isn’t as important as shoulder to waist ratio unless you’re a framelet

 

[Saint Casanova]

Bideltoid isn’t as important as shoulder to waist ratio unless you’re a framelet

What ? The bigger your bidelt for a given waist, the better your shoulder to waist ratio ?

 

[Deleted member 89948]

True, his delts just look like bowling balls

 

[RealNinja]

What ? The bigger your bidelt for a given waist, the better your shoulder to waist ratio ?

Right, but a guy with a normal bidelt and a great shoulder to waist ratio aesthetically looks better than a guy with a large bidelt and equally large waist/hips.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Right, but a guy with a normal bidelt and a great shoulder to waist ratio aesthetically looks better than a guy with a large bidelt and equally large waist/hips.

IMO, IRL bidelt is more important. It gives you more respect and attraction.

Most guys aren’t going to be fitness influencers here

 

[AnastPal67]

His clavicles aren't wide they are avarage at best for his height imo . He is an ectomorph how do you expect him to have wide clavicles with that small waist and hips it wouldn't make any sense

 

[jeoyw9192]

His clavicles aren't wide they are avarage at best for his height imo . He is an ectomorph how do you expect him to have wide clavicles with that small waist and hips it wouldn't make any sense

His skull also looks somewhat smaller so that makes his bidelt look bigger relatively

 

[AnastPal67]

His skull also looks somewhat smaller so that makes his bidelt look bigger relatively

His bideltoid is Like 22 inch and he is on roids thats not even big

 

[AnastPal67]

His bideltoid is Like 22 inch and he is on roids thats not even big

Mine is 21 inch at the same height as him but 16 year old and not gymmaxed yet

 

[cytoplasm]

Mine is 21 inch at the same height as him but 16 year old and not gymmaxed yet

Your bidelt in 2 years

 

[AnastPal67]

Your bidelt in 2 years
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Lol I know you said it ironically but at 190cm having a 22inch or 23inch bideltoid as an adult is pretty normal. Now I am so low in bf and I dont have much muscle so if I get older and also working out I might eventually reach something like close to 23inch

 

[cytoplasm]

Lol I know you said it ironically but at 190cm having a 22inch or 23inch bideltoid as an adult is pretty normal. Now I am so low in bf and I dont have much muscle so if I get older and also working out I might eventually reach something like close to 23inch

Its normal cause most of them are fat

 

[AnastPal67]

Its normal cause most of them are fat

Yes but still david laid reached like 22 inch (some people say 23inch) but bro took steroids to do this shit

 

[birthdefect]

Yes but still david laid reached like 22 inch (some people say 23inch) but bro took steroids to do this shit

you're acting like taking steroids is some major limitor
all he took was most likely test and var which you can get easily, you could def make the argument that the var helped his bone development

 

[Seven]

water

 

[cytoplasm]

Yes but still david laid reached like 22 inch (some people say 23inch) but bro took steroids to do this shit

Exactly. So 23 inch bidelts arent common among low bf individuals. This is what 23 inch bidelt looks like on 6'2 vs avg

 

[AnastPal67]

Yes but still david laid reached like 22 inch (some people say 23inch) but bro took steroids to do this shit

you're acting like taking steroids is some major limitor
all he took was most likely test and var which you can get easily, you could def make the argument that the var helped his bone development

Literally nothing crazy about his bones so even if it helped his bones they are still average its just the combination thats makes the ratios ideal

 

[AnastPal67]

Exactly. So 23 inch bidelts arent common among low bf individuals. This is what 23 inch bidelt looks like on 6'2 vs avg
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Westbrook has like 23 inch david laid most likely has 22inch but Westbrook has way wider clavicles

 

[AnastPal67]

Westbrook has like 23 inch david laid most likely has 22inch but Westbrook has way wider clavicles

Like bone wise david laid is not wide cuz he is a fucking ectomorph

 

[alllalalla]

It’s just that he has a big scapula and very tiny hips/waist
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It honestly doesn't matter if your clavicles are narrow if your waist makes up for it. Perfect combo would be good pec genetics + symmetrical abs + low insert lats and preferably also long biceps even though not having any of these good genetics isn't a deal breaker at all unless your pec genetics are absolutely atrocious

 

[GoblinMaxxer]

It honestly doesn't matter if your clavicles are narrow if your waist makes up for it. Perfect combo would be good pec genetics + symmetrical abs + low insert lats and preferably also long biceps even though not having any of these good genetics isn't a deal breaker at all unless your pec genetics are absolutely atrocious

Cope. Narrow clavicles means you get size mogged to death

 

[alllalalla]

Cope. Narrow clavicles means you get size mogged to death

Nah unless theyre very narrow, it's mostly about ratio. You're going to get size mogged by anyone taller than you anyways lol, not much about clavicles in that case.

 

[GoblinMaxxer]

Nah unless theyre very narrow, it's mostly about ratio. You're going to get size mogged by anyone taller than you anyways lol, not much about clavicles in that case.

Nigger, you get size-mogged by taller people because they have bigger clavicles on average, not just because they're taller.

 

[cytoplasm]

Westbrook has like 23 inch david laid most likely has 22inch but Westbrook has way wider clavicles

Well yeah. How often do you see guys with westbrook shoulders. And he has close to max muscle you can have as natty

 

[AnastPal67]

Well yeah. How often do you see guys with westbrook shoulders. And he has close to max muscle you can have as natty

Exactly Westbrook has is wider than david without even steroids that means he has has naturally wider bone structure

 

[AnastPal67]

Well yeah. How often do you see guys with westbrook shoulders. And he has close to max muscle you can have as natty

The point of this post is the fact that david doesn't wide frame ( or clavicles) and that's right

 

[AnastPal67]

Only bone wise compared to shorter ppl than him

 

[cytoplasm]

The point of this post is the fact that david doesn't wide frame ( or clavicles) and that's right

I know. What i was refering to was you saying 23 bidelts are common

 

[Saint Casanova]

Nigger, you get size-mogged by taller people because they have bigger clavicles on average, not just because they're taller.

Affleck has a huge frame even for his height and Jon has a weak frame for his height.

Better example world be Chris evans vs Affleck

 

[Deleted member 19325]

Mogger

 

[birthdefect]

Literally nothing crazy about his bones so even if it helped his bones they are still average its just the combination thats makes the ratios ideal

didnt even respond to what i said, i didnt mention at all whether is bone structure is good or not, although objectively its good. having a combination that makes the ratios ideal is literally rare, you're retarded if you think his frame is below average

 

[AnastPal67]

didnt even respond to what i said, i didnt mention at all whether is bone structure is good or not, although objectively its good. having a combination that makes the ratios ideal is literally rare, you're retarded if you think his frame is below average

His frame is not below avg he is top tier but his width is avg at best for his height

 

[birthdefect]

His frame is not below avg he is top tier but his width is avg at best for his height

yea you dont need super wide clavicles for a mogger fizeek, like jon skywalker

 

[AnastPal67]

yea you dont need super wide clavicles for a mogger fizeek, like jon skywalker

Yes david laid has avg clavicles for his height not even above avg imo its just the tiny hips and waist that makes up for thr ratios thats literally it

 

[AnastPal67]

yea you dont need super wide clavicles for a mogger fizeek, like jon skywalker

yea you dont need super wide clavicles for a mogger fizeek, like jon skywalker

I would still argue about jon skywalker. Without muscles he was very fucking narrow so his clavicles aren't wide either

 

[AnastPal67]

I would still argue about jon skywalker. Without muscles he was very fucking narrow so his clavicles aren't wide either

But once again he has tiny waist

 

[muhammad18347]

It’s just that he has a big scapula and very tiny hips/waist
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He looks like my shit in here

 

[AnastPal67]

That's an example of wide clavicles as you can see the shoulders are wide with not much muscle

 

[cytoplasm]

That's an example of wide clavicles as you can see the shoulders are wide with not much muscle

Thats not an example of anything since its entirely possible he's just frauding. Seen it time and time again when guys hold their phones like that

 

[AnastPal67]

Thats not an example of anything since its entirely possible he's just frauding. Seen it time and time again when guys hold their phones like that

Yes the thing is even when david frauds he still doesn't seem wide

 

[birthdefect]

That's an example of wide clavicles as you can see the shoulders are wide with not much muscle

i think ive seen you on reddit before asking if you have a good frame, might be misremembering

 

[birthdefect]

I would still argue about jon skywalker. Without muscles he was very fucking narrow so his clavicles aren't wide either

yea thats what im saying, you dont need long ass clavicles if you're jacked enough
whats basically non-negotiable is straight clavicles, and if they arent straight then you have to compensate with length otherwise its over for your frame

 

[AnastPal67]

yea thats what im saying, you dont need long ass clavicles if you're jacked enough
whats basically non-negotiable is straight clavicles, and if they arent straight then you have to compensate with length otherwise its over for your frame

Slightly upward is the best completely straight or downward is pretty ass . Mine are slightly upward and my biacromial is 43cm so I guess thats enough

 

[AnastPal67]

Slightly upward is the best completely straight or downward is pretty ass . Mine are slightly upward and my biacromial is 43cm so I guess thats enough

I david laid and jeff seid have slightly upward. Skywalker had straight ass clavicles

 

[AnastPal67]

Lwk this nigga brutally mogs david laid even physique wise . His shouldet to waist ratio is less extreme but more ideal imo and also he got better symmetry and wider clavicles

 

[AnastPal67]

Another example of very wide clavicles