(Debate) Money and Status are more important than Looks?

[Seth Walsh]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

 

[leknosa]

Delusional

 

[asdvek]

Delusional

hes right

 

[sub5outsider]

i have a friend that got a girl because of money hes with that girl for the past 5-6 years girls is better looking then him hes like a 4 and she a 6 money and being stable wins in the long run

 

[Seth Walsh]

i have a friend that got a girl because of money hes with that girl for the past 5-6 years girls is better looking then him hes like a 4 and she a 6 money and being stable wins in the long run

Yep. Yet "looks only" copers will say you're delusional.

 

[vinn98]

If a girl is with you for money you may as well just go to escorts, that's not true attraction.

 

[Seth Walsh]

that's not true attraction

Muh not true attraction.

How can you be sure there's any true attraction towards social outcasts who "looksmaxed" their way to salvation, while remaining broke, NEET, low status?

I'm trying to point out autistic coping that's gone on too long.

Contrary to what many believe. You can't just look at a relationship from the exterior and say there's no real attraction because the guy isn't Chadlite+

 

[twilight]

status and money gives a greater roi when it comes to the sheer quality and quantity of women you can have access to compared to just improving your looks but i suppose it's not talked about as much because getting segmental trimax is an easier feat for people here than to make exponential amounts of wealth or reach a worldwide level of status

you could also argue that you still need a threshold of looks for money and status to benefit you properly (they still need to be attracted to your looks) while with looks you don't really need the other two per say since i know some loner and avg income guys do well with slaying

but tbh this discussion is pointless since everyones idea of success in this regard is different, some want to be in ltrs with foids who genuinely lust and love them while others don't care about how much she actually likes them and just want access to as many women as possible for strs

 

[Seth Walsh]

status and money gives a greater roi when it comes to the sheer quality and quantity of women you can have access to compared to just improving your looks but i suppose it's not talked about as much because getting segmental trimax is an easier feat for people here than to make exponential amounts of wealth or reach a worldwide level of status

you could also argue that you still need a threshold of looks for money and status to benefit you properly (they still need to be attracted to your looks) while with looks you don't really need the other two per say since i know some loner and avg income guys do well with slaying

but tbh this discussion is pointless since everyones idea of success in this regard is different, some want to be in ltrs with foids who genuinely lust and love them while others don't care about how much she actually likes them and just want access to as many women as possible for strs

I made the thread purely for engagement but good post.

 

[twilight]

I made the thread purely for engagement but good post.

are you telling me i'm not going to earn 5 racks writing essays on an incel forum

 

[butterworld]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

Water

 

[imabetanumale]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

Money and status Is for betabuxxing a roastie hole on his 30s that allowed various chads to fuck without having money or even a first date to fuck her.

And now that she values her More,she Is entitled to be betabuxxed by you

 

[russwestbrook]

I got money and have no idea how to leverage it to increase my smv

 

[Rivers of Nihil]

I got money and have no idea how to leverage it to increase my smv

surgery , become chad

 

[Rivers of Nihil]

Attraction to your money is not attraction to you. There is nothing attractive you can own but the skeleton within you and the DNA that made it.

 

[Seth Walsh]

are you telling me i'm not going to earn 5 racks writing essays on an incel forum

You've the best post so far.

Any counter arguments from the rest of the crowd?

So far, Status and Money > Looks

 

[Seth Walsh]

Money and status Is for betabuxxing a roastie hole on his 30s that allowed various chads to fuck without having money or even a first date to fuck her.

And now that she values her More,she Is entitled to be betabuxxed by you

Cope, you can fuck prime jbs with burning genuine desire if you've money and real status.

Keep coping with your maxillofacial surgery delusions.

Not ugly + money + status mogs

 

[Rivers of Nihil]

You've the best post so far.

Any counter arguments from the rest of the crowd?View attachment 2817283

So far, Status and Money > Looks

Attraction to your money is not attraction to you. There is nothing attractive you can own but the skeleton within you and the DNA that made it.

end of debate

 

[gymmaxxer1234]

I have a shitload of money and I'm unhappy as fuck. What's the point of having good money if you don't have a hot loyal partner you can travel around the world with, and/or build something long-term with?

If a girl likes you because of your money, you're just an ATM who gets transactional sex. How does that make you happy?

If you use your money to buy escorts, again it's all transactional. Does that really make you happy?

I'd gladly reincarnate into a fucking minimum wage barista if I could be NT and chad/chadlite. I wouldn't have many luxuries I have now, but I'd have an attractive partner who would support me and we'd struggle together happily.

Most of my friends literally have 2-3% of my wealth and they are much happier than me, they have LTRs, and they are content with what and who they have. Their girls might not even be cute/hot but they don't give a shit because they're not "blackpilled" or "redpilled", and they're genuinely happy together.

I envy them a lot.

Status/money is nothing. NT and looks are everything.
You are literally retarded if you think otherwise.

A sane well-adjusted attractive girl would always rather date and settle with the low-income empathic good-looking man, not the rich ugly fuck or the rich psychopath.

 

[Seth Walsh]

I have a shitload of money and I'm unhappy as fuck. What's the point of having good money if you don't have a hot loyal partner you can travel around the world with, and/or build something long-term with?

If a girl likes you because of your money, you're just an ATM who gets transactional sex. How does that make you happy?

If you use your money to buy escorts, again it's all transactional. Does that really make you happy?

I'd gladly reincarnate into a fucking minimum wage barista if I could be NT and chad/chadlite. I wouldn't have many luxuries I have now, but I'd have an attractive partner who would support me and we'd struggle together happily.

Most of my friends literally have 2-3% of my wealth and they are much happier than me, they have LTRs, and they are content with what and who they have. Their girls might not even be cute/hot but they don't give a shit because they're not "blackpilled" or "redpilled", and they're genuinely happy together.

I envy them a lot.

Status/money is nothing. NT and looks are everything.
You are literally retarded if you think otherwise.

A sane well-adjusted attractive girl would always rather date and settle with the low-income empathic good-looking man, not the rich ugly fuck or the rich psychopath.

How much do you make and what's your net worth and what field do you work in? What's holding you back lookswise?

Bald, short, currycel, ITcel/autistic?

 

[trueceI]

IMO money and status just works like multipliers, and you need money to boost your status and looks.

Many think status doesn't matter for JBs but thats cope imo- if you have a bit of an instagram following at that age its def a huge halo cuz of preselection halo etc (especially if you grew it from your looks)

Status in highschool is also giga important- being seen as an outcast is a huge failo even if your face is good

Situational status is also important and can get you opportunities you couldnt get before (like being a bartender)

Being low status is also a huge failo, if youre ig is completely empty and 10 followers foids will just reject you, like wishiwaschico gets rejected for it and amnesia

Money = surgeries too and freedom but thats giga water

But if your 3.25 psl nothing u do with this matters

Tbh the debate doesnt matter anyway, if youre not trying to max out all these traits ur just trolling, you cant afford to "only get surgeries" since if you found this site your genetics arent good enough

 

[imabetanumale]

Cope, you can fuck prime jbs with burning genuine desire if you've money and real status.

Keep coping with your maxillofacial surgery delusions.

Not ugly + money + status mogs

You need a base of looks to fuck jailbaits,not only money and status,jailbaits are very sensitive for looks because they are young and dont want to lose their Time with sub chads neither a sub 5.

So,if money and status need looks to work,they dont mog looks,they need looks.

 

[ascension]

I cba to write a long ass post but can I please get the 5,000 rupees reward?

 

[gymmaxxer1234]

How much do you make and what's your net worth and what field do you work in? What's holding you back lookswise?

Bald, short, currycel, ITcel/autistic?

€200-250k, self-employed consultant (tech, engineering).

LTN face with eye area failo, short as fuck (5'5"), borderline autistic (very high IQ, poor empathy, can't read people well, I hurt people without realizing why, I act selfish and deeply regret it afterwards, etc).

 

[Seth Walsh]

€200-250k, self-employed consultant (tech, engineering).

LTN face with eye area failo, short as fuck (5'5"), borderline autistic (very high IQ, poor empathy, can't read people well, I hurt people without realizing why, I act selfish and deeply regret it afterwards, etc).

Maybe socialisation and meeting women is an issue too? Do you have many means to actually meet new women?

You have money but no real status or circle with social proof or network. It sounds like a tough situation. The low empathy is likely a symptom of low socialisation ngl.

 

[Seth Walsh]

You need a base of looks to fuck jailbaits,not only money and status,jailbaits are very sensitive for looks because they are young and dont want to lose their Time with sub chads neither a sub 5.

So,if money and status need looks to work,they dont mog looks,they need looks.

Yes, looks money and status. Faceandlms was right

 

[Seth Walsh]

IMO money and status just works like multipliers, and you need money to boost your status and looks.

Many think status doesn't matter for JBs but thats cope imo- if you have a bit of an instagram following at that age its def a huge halo cuz of preselection halo etc (especially if you grew it from your looks)

Status in highschool is also giga important- being seen as an outcast is a huge failo even if your face is good

Situational status is also important and can get you opportunities you couldnt get before (like being a bartender)

Being low status is also a huge failo, if youre ig is completely empty and 10 followers foids will just reject you, like wishiwaschico gets rejected for it and amnesia

Money = surgeries too and freedom but thats giga water

But if your 3.25 psl nothing u do with this matters

Tbh the debate doesnt matter anyway, if youre not trying to max out all these traits ur just trolling, you cant afford to "only get surgeries" since if you found this site your genetics arent good enough

high iq greycel poster

 

[imabetanumale]

Yes, looks money and status. Faceandlms was right

But your post says that money and status aré More important than looks...

Why do you agree with me now?

 

[5.5psl]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

Money : will provide you with the best quality of life that you want and desire to with the only exception of a girl "truly" attracted towards you like she wants to fuck you and have your babies that's not what money can provide you but except for that it will give you your life of dreams. Feeling horny ? Bang a hot escort. Getting bored ? Go for a luxurious travel trip with your gf/friends/family. You don't need to worry about the basic stuff and gives you a sense of security and success in life. You can have and get anything you desire without cutting it off seeing the price tag if you are rich
Looks: will give you the "lust" a women would have for you , you will feel empowered and loved to know that there is someone who truly cares about you and loves you. You will be treated better by your colleagues, friends and people in general. Dating becomes much easier as now you can pick the girl which you want according to your type without putting in way too much efforts a normie would have to do.
Now if we compare money vs looks
Money never fades looks do
You won't be a chad at 60 but you still can be rich at 60 you can still bang hot girls at 60 travel the world , have your luxurious without giving af about other things whereas someone who was a chad in his 30's is now no more a chad in his 60's women no more lust for him he has lost his charm and now only thing left with him are his memories

How do you think, what is better: being a fat rich ugly male in 60s with own Ferrari, or a 60 year old BROKE ugly male, who was chad up to 35 y.o.?

You know what the difference is? The RICH guy can get a facelift, and fuck 30 y.o. hotties, or just buy 20 y.o. high-level escorts
What can a BROKE chad do at 60? His only option is

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

Yes fucking water

 

[mogstars]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

If subchad, yes.

Top 1% looks will come with money & status anyway.

 

[Seth Walsh]

If subchad, yes.

Top 1% looks will come with money & status anyway.

1% is 1 in 100 not 1 in 1 billion

 

[mogstars]

Money : will provide you with the best quality of life that you want and desire to with the only exception of a girl "truly" attracted towards you like she wants to fuck you and have your babies that's not what money can provide you but except for that it will give you your life of dreams. Feeling horny ? Bang a hot escort. Getting bored ? Go for a luxurious travel trip with your gf/friends/family. You don't need to worry about the basic stuff and gives you a sense of security and success in life. You can have and get anything you desire without cutting it off seeing the price tag if you are rich
Looks: will give you the "lust" a women would have for you , you will feel empowered and loved to know that there is someone who truly cares about you and loves you. You will be treated better by your colleagues, friends and people in general. Dating becomes much easier as now you can pick the girl which you want according to your type without putting in way too much efforts a normie would have to do.
Now if we compare money vs looks
Money never fades looks do
You won't be a chad at 60 but you still can be rich at 60 you can still bang hot girls at 60 travel the world , have your luxurious without giving af about other things whereas someone who was a chad in his 30's is now no more a chad in his 60's women no more lust for him he has lost his charm and now only thing left with him are his memories

How do you think, what is better: being a fat rich ugly male in 60s with own Ferrari, or a 60 year old BROKE ugly male, who was chad up to 35 y.o.?

You know what the difference is? The RICH guy can get a facelift, and fuck 30 y.o. hotties, or just buy 20 y.o. high-level escorts
What can a BROKE chad do at 60? His only option is

I'd say 30s or 40s

Fucking on 4 pills and a shrinked dick at 60 shouldn't even be considered sex lmao

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

If subchad, yes.

Top 1% looks will come with money & status anyway.

Retard

 

[mogstars]

1% is 1 in 100 not 1 in 1 billion

The kids I see making money on tik tok or getting hired for high-paying jobs they aren't qualified for are all "1 in 100". Plus if you think Meeks is 1 in 1 billion you haven't been in Monaco...

 

[Seth Walsh]

Case closed.

Status > Money and Looks.

Time to lock the thread and pin it

 

[Tallcell]

Face over everything. Money doesn't matter, status doesn't matter, height doesn't matter. It's all about the face and has always been

 

[Seth Walsh]

Face over everything. Money doesn't matter, status doesn't matter, height doesn't matter. It's all about the face and has always been

 

[sb2214]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

In my opinion, the most important of these three is status. Looks are obviously very important, but I would argue a major reason why is because they make you higher status and make becoming even more high status easier. The same is true of money.

The core of the disagreement comes from a feeling a lot of guys have, that when women sleep with a dude "just" because of his money or status they are not actually attracted to him, or at least, not in the same way as they are attracted to a high looks man.

I think that while this CAN be true, it is not always and it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of female sexuality to think so. The main scenario where this is true is when a woman is with a low status high money man. If you have a lot of money you can in a sense buy women's time, but this will never be real attraction and it is extremely sad to see it in real life.

But I would argue that any man who has spent a lot of time and been close with women, knows that they do genuinely get wet for high status men, somewhat independently of how physically attractive he is. it is obviously a mixture of these two things, but being extremely high status and high charisma can 100% make women have the same kind of raw attraction she has for chad.

 

[Seth Walsh]

In my opinion, the most important of these three is status. Looks are obviously very important, but I would argue a major reason why is because they make you higher status and make becoming even more high status easier. The same is true of money.

The core of the disagreement comes from a feeling a lot of guys have, that when women sleep with a dude "just" because of his money or status they are not actually attracted to him, or at least, not in the same way as they are attracted to a high looks man.

I think that while this CAN be true, it is not always and it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of female sexuality to think so. The main scenario where this is true is when a woman is with a low status high money man. If you have a lot of money you can in a sense buy women's time, but this will never be real attraction and it is extremely sad to see it in real life.

But I would argue that any man who has spent a lot of time and been close with women, knows that they do genuinely get wet for high status men, somewhat independently of how physically attractive he is. it is obviously a mixture of these two things, but being extremely high status and high charisma can 100% make women have the same kind of raw attraction she has for chad.

high iq

 

[klamus]

I dno the scaling is so off status and job wise imo. My friend makes 60k at 30 yrs old. This would probably be equivalent to 100-120k in USA. You can't do anything special with that amount of money. You dont have a beach house. That costs millions. Sure you can buy a car but that alone wont get you into any panties. You need to make like 200-300k for the job to matter if you arent a Chad. Or a combination of sociopathy, NT, thug and some looks for 60k tier job to matter. My friend is just "boring" engineer like most guys are. "Boring" to women, he's giga based in my friend group. There's always something happening in his job, but theyre not the sort of stuff that makes womens pussy tingle.

 

[imabetanumale]

You need a base of looks to fuck jailbaits,not only money and status,jailbaits are very sensitive for looks because they are young and dont want to lose their Time with sub chads neither a sub 5.

So,if money and status need looks to work,they dont mog looks,they need looks.

Yes, looks money and status. Faceandlms was right

Case closed.

Status > Money and Looks.

Time to lock the thread and pin it

 

[RottingButIn6.4]

1. Money: Enables access to resources, freedom, and opportunities. It can also indirectly influence status and, to a lesser extent, perceptions of looks through the ability to invest in appearance, health, and lifestyle.
2. Status: Often correlates with or is enhanced by money and can significantly impact social and professional opportunities. High status can also attract social and romantic interests independently of looks and money.
3. Looks: Important, especially in contexts where first impressions or physical appeal are heavily weighted. However, looks can be somewhat mitigated by money and status in terms of overall life opportunities and satisfaction.

Free for all below. $5,000 goes to the person with the best argument of what's more important, Looks, Money, Status.

Ik this girl and she admitted to liking me in the past at a certain point even to im a poorcel but im decent looking and tall so it compensated but i saw the most vile and horny reaction from her for an ugly,short and framecel bastard with a lot of daddys money so idk being gl is better for a one night stand but money and status freak girls out, just be a korean idol theory

 

[reptiles]

Yep. Yet "looks only" copers will say you're delusional.

As soon as his wealth goes that whore goes plus he only gets a 6 if he got surgery and beta buxes he could possible get a 7 or 7.5 most normies don't look impossible to fix to start withb

 

[reptiles]

i have a friend that got a girl because of money hes with that girl for the past 5-6 years girls is better looking then him hes like a 4 and she a 6 money and being stable wins in the long run

Yeah and as soon as his money goes the pussy dries up with bones he can leave that whore and get another

 

[lasthope]

€200-250k, self-employed consultant (tech, engineering).

LTN face with eye area failo, short as fuck (5'5"), borderline autistic (very high IQ, poor empathy, can't read people well, I hurt people without realizing why, I act selfish and deeply regret it afterwards, etc).

Do you look rich tho? Like clothes, watches and car?