DEBUNKING DHT LOVERS THREAD

[DR. NICKGA]

That would tie into the insulin sensitivity/resistance theory about hair loss that is talked about on other forums. I do believe there is something there, but again it's not the only cause of hairloss so people who claim to not have spiked insulin say they still suffer from hair loss as it's usually from a different cause. This si what people fail to understand, there are multiple reasons for hairloss but a few of them are the main factors and DHT is like the 2nd or 3rd sector of it, it's not the primary root cause.

The factor are genetics

Simple

 

[DR. NICKGA]

it is the main cause, it has been proven long ago AGA at least

No for sure not

 

[Paul Mcartney69]

No for sure not

bro ur an idiot if you dont think that.. how can you explain the efficacy of 5ar inhibitors if it is not DHT being the sole cause. that would be totally contradictory

 

[DR. NICKGA]

bro ur an idiot if you dont think that.. how can you explain the efficacy of 5ar inhibitors if it is not DHT being the sole cause. that would be totally contradictory

5ar inhibitors works good

 

[barnmatrix]

and it also fuses growth plates faster in teenagers

What are you talking about??

 

[bp_ruinedme]

No in studies children who were using dht grew up taller
Because dht increase igf-1
Dht make you more sensitive to hgh
Dht lower your estrogen
+Dht effect on bone growth and promoting growth velocity

dht matures your bones faster so when u start puberty it contributes to height growth but after 14 or 15 when dht and testosterone increase a lot more ur bone ages fast and matures meaning if u have high dht u will also have more bone density thickness and mineral bone density but it also closes the growth plates bc of maturation

 

[bp_ruinedme]

no it doesn’t

it literally matures bones faster

 

[20/04/2008]

dht matures your bones faster so when u start puberty it contributes to height growth but after 14 or 15 when dht and testosterone increase a lot more ur bone ages fast and matures meaning if u have high dht u will also have more bone density thickness and mineral bone density but it also closes the growth plates bc of maturation

Bro it’s estrogen
Study show that people who took non aromatiizing steroids they grew taller

 

[bp_ruinedme]

What are you talking about??

dht leads to fast bone maturation

 

[20/04/2008]

it literally matures bones faster

Your as knowledgeable as the guy on your pfp

 

[Mike141]

it literally matures bones faster

maturing bones isn’t the same thing as closing the growth plates jfl. estrogen closes growth plates so high dht and low estrogen= bones maturing without the growth plates closing

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Your as knowledgeable as the guy on your pfp

Racisme is not cool dude

Balding is caused by DHT

BALDING (ANDROGENETIC ALOPECIA) IS CAUSED BY DHT the strongest evidence I can think of right now.. If it's not enough to convince someone of the causal role of androgens in baldness then that person is brain dead or willfully ignorant. Common male pattern baldness is a highly heritable trait...

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[bp_ruinedme]

Bro it’s estrogen
Study show that people who took non aromatiizing steroids they grew taller

maturing bones isn’t the same thing as closing the growth plates jfl. estrogen closes growth plates so high dht and low estrogen= bones maturing without the growth plates closing

maturing bones isn’t the same thing as closing the growth plates jfl. estrogen closes growth plates so high dht and low estrogen= bones maturing without the growth plates closing

Your as knowledgeable as the guy on your pfp

buddy u gotta be dumb, dht accelerates closure of growth plates look it up

 

[Mike141]

it literally matures bones faster

Maturing bones refer to the process where bones grow and develop in length, width, and density, typically during childhood and adolescence. This growth occurs primarily at the growth plates, also known as epiphyseal plates, which are cartilage areas at the ends of long bones.

Growth plates closing marks the end of bone growth, as the cartilage is replaced by solid bone through a process called ossification. This usually signals the completion of skeletal maturity.

 

[bp_ruinedme]

maturing bones isn’t the same thing as closing the growth plates jfl. estrogen closes growth plates so high dht and low estrogen= bones maturing without the growth plates closing

Maturing bones refer to the process where bones grow and develop in length, width, and density, typically during childhood and adolescence. This growth occurs primarily at the growth plates, also known as epiphyseal plates, which are cartilage areas at the ends of long bones.

Growth plates closing marks the end of bone growth, as the cartilage is replaced by solid bone through a process called ossification. This usually signals the completion of skeletal maturity.

dht literally closes the growth plates faster and that is why u shouldn't try to maximise testosterone while ur 14-17 to grow taller

 

[Mike141]

dht literally closes the growth plates faster and that is why u shouldn't try to maximise testosterone while ur 14-17 to grow taller

you shouldn’t maximize testosterone because it will convert to more estrogen which can be countered pretty easily. there’s no mechanisms in which dht closes growth plates

 

[halloweed]

you shouldn’t maximize testosterone because it will convert to more estrogen which can be countered pretty easily. there’s no mechanisms in which dht closes growth plates

If anything, DHT is anti-estrogenic because of the inhibition of aromatase, which will delay growth plate closure.

 

[bp_ruinedme]

you shouldn’t maximize testosterone because it will convert to more estrogen which can be countered pretty easily. there’s no mechanisms in which dht closes growth plates

ask any source and it will confirm that dht closes growth plates

 

[Mike141]

dht literally closes the growth plates faster and that is why u shouldn't try to maximise testosterone while ur 14-17 to grow taller

Studies show that high levels of DHT alone do not cause premature growth plate closure; instead, they may indirectly influence this process through their interaction with other hormones.

If estrogen levels are controlled, even in the presence of high DHT, growth plates may remain open longer. Therefore, DHT's impact on growth plate closure is secondary to estrogen, suggesting that the relationship is more complex than DHT merely accelerating growth plate fusion.

tldr: other hormones cause the closing of growth plates like estrogen so controlling it with high dht levels won’t cause growth plates to close

 

[DR. NICKGA]

ask any source and it will confirm that dht closes growth plates

Sure guys, you can ask me

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Studies show that high levels of DHT alone do not cause premature growth plate closure; instead, they may indirectly influence this process through their interaction with other hormones.

If estrogen levels are controlled, even in the presence of high DHT, growth plates may remain open longer. Therefore, DHT's impact on growth plate closure is secondary to estrogen, suggesting that the relationship is more complex than DHT merely accelerating growth plate fusion.

?????????????????????

Ever heard of citations bud

Also yes its complex, both dht and T are cope
Since height growth is indictated by genetics,

the height increase will stop whenever the genetic limit is reached, androgens will not make a difference. For sure not both of them

 

[Mike141]

?????????????????????

Ever heard of citations bud

Also yes its complex, both dht and T are cope
Since height growth is indictated by genetics,

the height increase will stop whenever the genetic limit is reached, androgens will not make a difference. For sure not both of them

stupid newgen nigger he didn’t ask for citations so i didn’t give it to him lmao. so ur saying that even with low estrogen levels the growth plates still close because of genetics JFL

 

[DR. NICKGA]

stupid newgen nigger he didn’t ask for citations so i didn’t give it to him lmao. so ur saying that even with low estrogen levels the growth plates still close because of genetics JFL

I never saw a looksmaxer grew to +6.3 foot with overdosing estrogen blockers

Buut you can be the first person ofcourse!!

 

[Mike141]

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what is so hard to understand nigga?

 

[Mike141]

I never saw a looksmaxer grew to +6.3 foot with overdosing estrogen blockers

Buut you can be the first person ofcourse!!

i grew from 5’8ish to 6ft with only 3-4ius of gh and estrogen blockers in 6 months. while u were watching tiktoks i was experimenting with them so i would say i have more experience than u not too sure tho

 

[DR. NICKGA]

i grew from 5’8ish to 6ft with only 3-4ius of gh and estrogen blockers in 6 months. while u were watching tiktoks i was experimenting with them so i would say i have more experience than u not too sure tho

Only 6 foot? Damm short

 

[Mike141]

Only 6 foot? Damm

i’m 6’2.5 now jfl

 

[DR. NICKGA]

i’m 6’2.5 now jfl

Now you are suddenly 6.2 foot LOL

 

[Mike141]

Now you are suddenly 6.2 foot LOL

i posted my growth plates here plus proof of growth jfl. i grew 2.5 inches after my gh treatment by blasting tons of peptides jfl a lot of og users have seen my results like freakkforlife

 

[Mike141]

Now you are suddenly 6.2 foot LOL

i was 6’0 at late 16 after gh treatment with growth plates open and still continued my use of ais but dr nicka here who barely joined the forum knows for sure it isn’t possible to grow 2.5inches in 2 years with open growth plates jfl and a shitton of peptides JFL

 

[20/04/2008]

Studies show that high levels of DHT alone do not cause premature growth plate closure; instead, they may indirectly influence this process through their interaction with other hormones.

If estrogen levels are controlled, even in the presence of high DHT, growth plates may remain open longer. Therefore, DHT's impact on growth plate closure is secondary to estrogen, suggesting that the relationship is more complex than DHT merely accelerating growth plate fusion.

tldr: other hormones cause the closing of growth plates like estrogen so controlling it with high dht levels won’t cause growth plates to close

Like when people get estrogen deficiency their growth plates never vlose and they just keep growing
Bro is just too dumb fir this forum

 

[Mike141]

Like when people get estrogen deficiency their growth plates never vlose and they just keep growing
Bro is just too dumb fir this forum

some people really get on my nerves bro with their low iq fr

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Like when people get estrogen deficiency their growth plates never vlose and they just keep growing
Bro is just too dumb fir this forum

This you lil bro?

The WORST looksmax guide on in this forum

Aight guyss this color more readable ig anyways I'll be debunking this thread today and how fucking DOGSHIT and HARMFUL it is https://looksmax.org/threads/fix-your-life-as-a-teenager.1106543/ I honestly don't know if this is the proper section to make a thread like this but mods dont remove its...

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some people really get on my nerves bro with their low iq fr

Shut the fuck up wimp

 

[Crusile]

Not reading retarded thread and comments but what is the tldr? should i take dutestride instead of finesteride? I just ran out and need to order ASAP

 

[Crusile]

Why DHT is important and should NOT be nuked to the ground

I'm tired of trannies here trying to convince people that DHT is useless. This thread will cover the importance of DHT and why you should not block it by the use of 5ARIs. My friend @20/04/2008 made a really good thread on it, so I will just TLDR it: DHT is not only the stronger version of...

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Thats the thread @Jonas2k7 made..you can check it if you want to or just read mine and youre good to go


Stop Overhyping DHT,Here’s the Reality About 5ARIs

Look,this obsession with DHT needs to chill.People act like DHT is some god-tier hormone that the male body can’t live without,but let’s be real,it’s not.You’re overplaying its importance,and it’s time to set the record straight.

1 DHT’s Power,Fact or Overblown Hype

Yeah,we get it,DHT binds to androgen receptors stronger than testosterone.Big deal.That doesn’t make it irreplaceable.Test is more than enough to handle what the body actually needs.And let’s not pretend DHT doesn’t cause more harm than good:

Hair loss,The number one reason dudes go bald?DHT.

Prostate problems,Enlarged prostate?Prostate cancer?Guess who’s behind it?DHT.

Blocking it with 5ARIs is literally saving men from these issues without messing up testosterone’s essential functions.

2 DHT Is Unique,So What

You keep saying DHT has unique effects because of how it binds to androgen receptors.Sure,but unique doesn’t mean necessary.Most of those unique effects are either redundant or straight-up harmful post-puberty.

Testosterone can carry the load just fine.You don’t need sky-high DHT levels to build muscle,have a sex drive,or function as a man.Stop acting like DHT is irreplaceable,it’s not.

3 Neurosteroids,Really

You bring up allopregnanolone like it’s the holy grail.Let’s break it down:

Most guys using 5ARIs don’t even notice brain fog or anxiety.The link between allopregnanolone and mood is weak at best,and even if there’s a dip,it’s temporary.

5ARIs don’t completely block the production of neurosteroids.Your body adapts and balances out.You’re overblowing this for no reason.

4 The Sex Argument Is Weak

Let’s talk about the elephant in the room,erectile dysfunction and libido.You’re making it sound like DHT is the magic ingredient for sex,but it’s not.Test is the MVP here.

Erections,Nitric oxide production isn’t solely dependent on DHT.You know what helps?Good blood flow and,if needed,meds like Cialis.

Libido,Dopamine and oxytocin are way more important for sex drive than DHT.Stop pretending like blocking a bit of DHT ruins your sex life,it doesn’t.

And for the permanent side effects crowd,let’s be honest,post-finasteride syndrome(PFS) is rare,and most of the time,it’s blown way out of proportion.The majority of men using 5ARIs are fine.

5 Bone and Muscle Health,Please

You’re throwing studies about DHT and bone mass like it’s the end-all,be-all.But guess what?Test does the job just fine.Those studies you’re citing are on castrated mice or other extreme models,not real-world humans.

6 The Bigger Picture

You know why some people don’t experience side effects on 5ARIs?Because they’re smart enough to not rely on DHT like it’s oxygen.Testosterone is the key player,and 5ARIs help control DHT without ruining your hormones.

Conclusion,Chill Out About DHT

DHT isn’t as critical as you think,and 5ARIs aren’t the enemy you’re making them out to be.Testosterone does the heavy lifting for muscle,sex drive,and overall health.Blocking DHT is a calculated move to prevent hair loss,prostate problems,and other issues.Stop acting like we’re neutering ourselves,it’s science,not sabotage.

ITS OVER.
stop making threads about dht with pure bro-science @Jonas2k7 @20/04/2008

THOUGHTS ON FINESTRIDE VS DUTESTRIDE

 

[Mike141]

Shut the fuck up wimp

kys newgen imagine having the lowest iq opinions then calling me a wimp u manlet faggot. u wouldn’t say shit to me irl i would bash your fucking skull in the pavement and give u a diy lefort II surgery so ull ascend to low ltn u faggot

 

[20/04/2008]

This you lil bro?

The WORST looksmax guide on in this forum

Aight guyss this color more readable ig anyways I'll be debunking this thread today and how fucking DOGSHIT and HARMFUL it is https://looksmax.org/threads/fix-your-life-as-a-teenager.1106543/ I honestly don't know if this is the proper section to make a thread like this but mods dont remove its...

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Shut the fuck up wimp

Read my replys i completely debunked his ass