debunking existentialism

[theRetard]

if life has no objective meaning and must create your own meaning, then finding a subjective meaning is already an objective meaning

 

[Helvetier]

if life has no objective meaning and must create your own meaning, then finding a subjective meaning is already an objective meaning

Live has no meaning were just animals that are more conscious living on a rock flying trough space and there are thousands of other planets where more conscious beings live and all of them think they’re the chosen ones

 

[theRetard]

Live has no meaning were just a animal thats more conscious living on a rock flying trough space and there are thousands of other planets where conscious beings live and all of them think they’re the chosen ones

if life has no meaning then this statement about it's meaningless is also meaningless

 

[Helvetier]

if life has no meaning then this statement about it's meaningless is also meaningless

Why do you think our live has a meaning, do you believe in god or sum?

 

[theRetard]

Why do you think our live has a meaning, do you believe in god or sum?

because if life has not meaning, then there's no life at all, but it's self-refuting. so life has a meaning.
and there's a god as an unmoved mover

 

[Helvetier]

because if life has not meaning, then there's no life at all, but it's self-refuting. so life has a meaning.
and there's a god as an unmoved mover

The only meaning for live in nature is to survive and reproduce to keep your species going

 

[theRetard]

The only meaning for live in nature is to survive and reproduce to keep your species going

it's only the biological one instead of metaphysical lul

 

[PeakIncels]

absurdism is often the correct and healthy mindset, or nihilism in case you are deep in severe depression and suicidal intentions

 

[Helvetier]

it's only the biological one instead of metaphysical lul

Yeah true but if live has a meaning what would you say is it then

 

[theRetard]

Yeah true but if live has a meaning what would you say is it then

well-being/flourishing is the objective meaning of life
because everything has it's purpose, so you need to fulfill it, humans quality that makes him human is the reason, so living reasonable is the purpose of the human life

 

[theRetard]

absurdism is often the correct and healthy mindset, or nihilism in case you are deep in severe depression and suicidal intentions

absurdism is retarded just as nihilism, they are self-refuting

 

[LTNUser]

The only meaning for live in nature is to survive and reproduce to keep your species going

Reproduction is not the only aim in life

 

[Helvetier]

Reproduction is not the only aim in life

If we talk about nature then yes, what are other goals in life from nature then?

 

[theRetard]

If we talk about nature then yes, what are other goals in life from nature then?

i already explained

 

[Helvetier]

i already explained

Yes but maybe he has a different view on it

 

[Klasik616]

if life has no objective meaning and must create your own meaning, then finding a subjective meaning is already an objective meaning

Well this is what existencialism has always been saying, they never said the contrary. Only realists think this is wrong and life has a purpose (God and morals) which is stupid and delusional. You didn't debunk anything, you copy pasted JP Sartre.

 

[Basedman420]

Everything is cope but pussy

 

[futurechadlite111]

we have only one life there is no afterlife there is no objective meaning for life thats what you have to create by yourself

 

[theRetard]

Well this is what existencialism has always been saying, they never said the contrary. Only realists think this is wrong and life has a purpose (God and such things). You didn't debunk anything, you copy pasted JP Sartre.

have you even read that thread?

 

[theRetard]

Well this is what existencialism has always been saying, they never said the contrary. Only realists think this is wrong and life has a purpose (God and morals) which is stupid and delusional. You didn't debunk anything, you copy pasted JP Sartre.

i showed that existentialism is self-refuting

 

[Klasik616]

i showed that existentialism is self-refuting

No it's not. Existencialism proves realism is wrong. There's no "collective" end for any of our actions, there's no "mission" for any of our accomplishes. Life is simple, when you end doing something you start searching for another task/problem until you die. Anything you did wasn't aimed "for a bigger purpose" you were just coping, doing nothing in life is also a valid decision. Existencialism says the purpose is personal, the individual gives it meaning but it only lasts until the task is completed. In other words anything you do is meaningless in a great scheme of things and you have freedom to choose what to do.

 

[theRetard]

No it's not. Existencialism proves realism is wrong. There's no "collective" end for any of our actions, there's no "mission" for any of our accomplishes. Life is simple, when you end doing something you start searching for another task/problem until you die. Anything you did wasn't aimed "for a bigger purpose" you were just coping, doing nothing in life is also a valid decision. Existencialism says the purpose is personal, the individual gives it meaning but it only lasts until the task is completed.

so how does existentialism prove that realism is wrong? realism is literally more coherent. And even if we take your premise about non-existence of ending for any of our actions, then you are saying that you start searching for another task/problem (maslow pyramid) so it is already means that life has a bigger purpose. so your position is contradictory

 

[Klasik616]

so how does existentialism prove that realism is wrong? realism is literally more coherent. And even if we take your premise about non-existence of ending for any of our actions, then you are saying that you start searching for another task/problem (maslow pyramid) so it is already means that life has a bigger purpose. so your position is contradictory

The Maslow pyramid is wrong cus it implies certain idealism and ignores that some people don't care about reaching "higher goals" and focus only on the primary needs, it also can't explain addictions. In your world view, you can't explain what boredom and depression is and how they appear during life. Instead both Heidegger and Sartre explain how those feelings exist with just ontology. Even old indian philosophies agree with existencialism, we are born to suffer and search for copes, I mean a way to lose time while we live. Once you end searching on .org what are you gonna do, something greater? I don't think so, you're just gonna from one meaningless activity to another. Sartre is like if Heidegger was honest and agreed there's no purpose in the world.

 

[theRetard]

The Maslow pyramid is wrong cus it implies certain idealism and ignores that some people don't care about reaching "higher goals" and focus only on the primary needs, it also can't explain addictions. In your world view, you can't explain what boredom and depression is and how they appear during life. Instead both Heidegger and Sartre explain how those feelings exist with just ontology. Even old indian philosophies agree with existencialism, we are born to suffer and search for copes, I mean a way to lose time while we live. Once you end searching on .org what are you gonna do, something greater? I don't think so, you're just gonna from one meaningless activity to another. Sartre is like if Heidegger was honest and agreed there's no purpose in the world.

sartre has a literal retard, heidegger debunked him a while ago

 

[theRetard]

The Maslow pyramid is wrong cus it implies certain idealism and ignores that some people don't care about reaching "higher goals" and focus only on the primary needs, it also can't explain addictions. In your world view, you can't explain what boredom and depression is and how they appear during life. Instead both Heidegger and Sartre explain how those feelings exist with just ontology. Even old indian philosophies agree with existencialism, we are born to suffer and search for copes, I mean a way to lose time while we live. Once you end searching on .org what are you gonna do, something greater? I don't think so, you're just gonna from one meaningless activity to another. Sartre is like if Heidegger was honest and agreed there's no purpose in the world.

even if the maslow pyramid implies idealism and there's some people who do not care about something, it doesn't mean that it's wrong lul. And yeah you said that yourself, if life is "searching for another task/problem" (which is literally a maslow pyramid), then tasks and problems are already a higher goas