Debunking most popular arguments on why all human races are equal

[Thinking_CEL]

First of all I would like to say, I will leave the links to all studies below. (And if I forget some they are very easy to find), if anyone wants to debunk this feel free to reply with your counterpoint, although i recommend you read everything including the introduction.

Spoiler: Introduction

So in western society this new belief popped up that suggests any and all races can coexist.
Liberals will say the racial differences in crime rate and success rate lies solely on factors such as discrimination and disadvantageous past (slavery, colonialism).
Whereas Conservatives will say it’s merely a cultural thing and white people and north East Asians just so happened to develop the best culture which is why they every other ethnicity should be taught western culture and they will adapt just fine.
Now before I present my counter arguments I would like to profess outliers don’t disprove the rule. In every race there will be people who don’t fit into the majority, but this isn’t gonna change the noticeable pattern.

Now for the arguments:

Spoiler: Argument number 1 [we share most of our DNA with each other]

While this is in fact true. DNA shared between organisms in the planet are all very similar. In fact you share about 60% of your DNA with a banana you eat and humans share about 98.8% of their DNA with chimpanzees, that 0.1% difference between us is a very big factor when it comes to culture and being able to live together.

Example: 95-100% of Africans have a gene to protect from malaria, while others do not and these small differences are shared throughout many different human races.

Now you can argue different small features evolve based on survival necessity. Well maybe Intelligence has been a huge factor in European and north East Asian evolution.
Here’s the controversial IQ map
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Now IQ has been proven time and time again to be one of the main indicators of success in western society. So if you bring in people who haven’t evolved to have that higher IQ how can you expect them to adapt?

BTW also been proven IQ is hereditary not something that comes from richer or poorer countries it’s more like the low iq makes the peoples of those poor countries poorer.

Spoiler: Argument Number 2 [Culture doesn’t come from race]

Now this is a very popular argument with some people suggesting luck or the environment make certain peoples develop certain cultures. But to that I ask you what came first culture or genetics? Obviously it’s genetics the people sharing similar genes collectively make up that culture in mutual agreement and throughout the years those who didn’t fit into that culture were not selected to reproduce which is how a majority of people survive.

Not everyone can adapt into western culture because you can’t teach someone from Africa or the Middle East/ South Asia who have been genetically bred into these violent survivalist cultures.

And I think crime statistics by race sometimes even from 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants born and raised in these countries proves they aren’t able to adapt to western culture.

Spoiler: Argument Number 3 [race is a social construct]

Now this is more of a dummy comeback that is just spouted automatically which means they have no actual argument. I think all my other points can prove why race isn’t a social construct and is very important to distinguish.

Spoiler: Bonus point [evil of race mixing]

Now this is the only point I have no data for since it relies on genetic gamble and you can either mix and get someone who fits into a culture where he’s mixed with or they will end up with a identity crisis.

This comes more from my personal experience as a mixed individual where i notice traits of many races I carry not just physically but mentally. At the end of the day I don’t think it’s a benefit if you look at countries in South America which are majority mixed the public divide in politics and crime is huge. It leads to a fallen society, and an individual that might be unable to fit into any society/ culture.

Spoiler: Conclusion:

We live in a society now where everyone is viewed as equal independent of gender or race and this just isn’t true there are certain roles certain genders have to commit to, and certain cultures and places some people just can’t and never will fit into. If you import the 3rd world you become the 3rd world they are genetically predisposed to their culture.

I feel like for the longest time this concept has been obvious but recently by the end of the 20th century everyone has been slowly brainwashed into accepting every people and gender as equal and many people might have theories as to why that is and who is responsible for this. But you have been deliberately lied to even tho you can see the difference with your own eyes, you are lead to ignoring them or just blaming it on social factors, poverty or culture.

Spoiler: Links to studies

https://www.alphabiolabs.co.uk/learning-centre/much-dna-share/

https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/how_genetically_related_are_we_to_bananas

https://acisiq.com/iq-and-success

Arrests

Black people were over twice as likely to be arrested as white people – there were 20.4 arrests for every 1,000 black people, and 9.4 for every 1,000 white people.

www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk

 

[looks666]

Now this is the only point I have no data for since it relies on genetic gamble and you can either mix and get someone who fits into a culture where he’s mixed with or they will end up with a identity crisis.

This comes more from my personal experience as a mixed individual where i notice traits of many races I carry not just physically but mentally. At the end of the day I don’t think it’s a benefit if you look at countries in South America which are majority mixed the public divide in politics and crime is huge. It leads to a fallen society, and an individual that might be unable to fit into any society/ culture.

why do you care what race of kids others have

 

[inyerta]

First of all I would like to say, I will leave the links to all studies below. (And if I forget some they are very easy to find), if anyone wants to debunk this feel free to reply with your counterpoint, although i recommend you read everything including the introduction.

Spoiler: Introduction

So in western society this new belief popped up that suggests any and all races can coexist.
Liberals will say the racial differences in crime rate and success rate lies solely on factors such as discrimination and disadvantageous past (slavery, colonialism).
Whereas Conservatives will say it’s merely a cultural thing and white people and north East Asians just so happened to develop the best culture which is why they every other ethnicity should be taught western culture and they will adapt just fine.
Now before I present my counter arguments I would like to profess outliers don’t disprove the rule. In every race there will be people who don’t fit into the majority, but this isn’t gonna change the noticeable pattern.

Now for the arguments:

Spoiler: Argument number 1 [we share most of our DNA with each other]

While this is in fact true. DNA shared between organisms in the planet are all very similar. In fact you share about 60% of your DNA with a banana you eat and humans share about 98.8% of their DNA with chimpanzees, that 0.1% difference between us is a very big factor when it comes to culture and being able to live together.

Example: 95-100% of Africans have a gene to protect from malaria, while others do not and these small differences are shared throughout many different human races.

Now you can argue different small features evolve based on survival necessity. Well maybe Intelligence has been a huge factor in European and north East Asian evolution.
Here’s the controversial IQ map
View attachment 394376

Now IQ has been proven time and time again to be one of the main indicators of success in western society. So if you bring in people who haven’t evolved to have that higher IQ how can you expect them to adapt?

BTW also been proven IQ is hereditary not something that comes from richer or poorer countries it’s more like the low iq makes the peoples of those poor countries poorer.

Spoiler: Argument Number 2 [Culture doesn’t come from race]

Now this is a very popular argument with some people suggesting luck or the environment make certain peoples develop certain cultures. But to that I ask you what came first culture or genetics? Obviously it’s genetics the people sharing similar genes collectively make up that culture in mutual agreement and throughout the years those who didn’t fit into that culture were not selected to reproduce which is how a majority of people survive.

Not everyone can adapt into western culture because you can’t teach someone from Africa or the Middle East/ South Asia who have been genetically bred into these violent survivalist cultures.

And I think crime statistics by race sometimes even from 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants born and raised in these countries proves they aren’t able to adapt to western culture.

Spoiler: Argument Number 3 [race is a social construct]

Now this is more of a dummy comeback that is just spouted automatically which means they have no actual argument. I think all my other points can prove why race isn’t a social construct and is very important to distinguish.

Spoiler: Bonus point [evil of race mixing]

Now this is the only point I have no data for since it relies on genetic gamble and you can either mix and get someone who fits into a culture where he’s mixed with or they will end up with a identity crisis.

This comes more from my personal experience as a mixed individual where i notice traits of many races I carry not just physically but mentally. At the end of the day I don’t think it’s a benefit if you look at countries in South America which are majority mixed the public divide in politics and crime is huge. It leads to a fallen society, and an individual that might be unable to fit into any society/ culture.

Spoiler: Conclusion:

We live in a society now where everyone is viewed as equal independent of gender or race and this just isn’t true there are certain roles certain genders have to commit to, and certain cultures and places some people just can’t and never will fit into. If you import the 3rd world you become the 3rd world they are genetically predisposed to their culture.

I feel like for the longest time this concept has been obvious but recently by the end of the 20th century everyone has been slowly brainwashed into accepting every people and gender as equal and many people might have theories as to why that is and who is responsible for this. But you have been deliberately lied to even tho you can see the difference with your own eyes, you are lead to ignoring them or just blaming it on social factors, poverty or culture.

Spoiler: Links to studies

https://www.alphabiolabs.co.uk/learning-centre/much-dna-share/

https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/how_genetically_related_are_we_to_bananas

https://acisiq.com/iq-and-success

Arrests

Black people were over twice as likely to be arrested as white people – there were 20.4 arrests for every 1,000 black people, and 9.4 for every 1,000 white people.

www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk

Humans and carrots share 65% of the same dna

 

[hardmaxxx]

Humans and carrots share 65% of the same dna

 

[Big Boss]

Humans and carrots share 65% dna

 

[2s2f]

dnr

 

[Thinking_CEL]

Humans and carrots share 65% of the same dna

certain peoples have a different of 0.1% dna with other races and that is treated as insignificant when clearly this is substantial not as much as the 65% of a carrot but to think you share so much with a carrot and look nothing alike is proof enough those small variations matter

Even though in group differences also exist they all carry the same dna to survive in their environment/ culture this has been a process happening throughout 1000s of years that’s why most peoples fit into their culture and find it so hard to assimilate to othersb

 

[looks666]

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[Thinking_CEL]

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Apparently it’s 40-50% tho with bananas it’s close to 60%

 

[mlglocalfatkid]

meanwhile my ancestors primally fighting over stacy:

 

[looks666]

certain peoples have a different of 0.1% dna with other races and that is treated as insignificant when clearly this is substantial not as much as the 65% of a carrot but to think you share so much with a carrot and look nothing alike is proof enough those small variations matter

Even though in group differences also exist they all carry the same dna to survive in their environment/ culture this has been a process happening throughout 1000s of years that’s why most peoples fit into their culture and find it so hard to assimilate to othersb

if youre going to be racist the difference to look for is the relative difference in genes like the amount of genetic distance between species and subspecies. the inter racial genetic distance is approximately the same as some subspecies differentiations

 

[Thinking_CEL]

if youre going to be racist the difference to look for is the relative difference in genes like the amount of genetic distance between species and subspecies. the inter racial genetic distance is approximately the same as some subspecies differentiations

Even though that is true just IQ alone determines how well someone will fit into the west and that is completely hereditary

that’s why basically any north East Asian immigrants fit in just fine and sometimes even overachieve the locals from the west

And the small % of outliers in certain groups also do but that doesn’t justify mass importing everyone and expecting them to fit in when they are evolved for that aggressive lifestyle

If anything the fact 3rd generation immigrants can’t even adapt to the west just proves it’s a waste they will all favour their own ways over western ways

 

[DarkAscender]

The only difference between human “races” are adaptations to environment and just minor phyiscal differences. Any other claims are just hidden racist agendas spewed by people with inaccurate and often dated information.

This way of thinking was used to justify colonialism, slavery and overall racism and inequality.

 

[Thinking_CEL]

The only difference between human “races” are adaptations to environment and just minor phyiscal differences. Any other claims are just hidden racist agendas spewed by people with inaccurate and often dated information.

This way of thinking was used to justify colonialism, slavery and overall racism and inequality.

Then tell me why non European immigration has caused so much chaos in the west for the past decades? With many of the criminals being born and raised into western culture

Just seems to me like people refuse to admit this difference even though it’s on their faces the moment they go outside

You can only hide under inequality for so long

 

[bloodsleeve]

Starting with the IQ map, that image comes straight from Richard Lynn's work which has been completely discredited by mainstream bodies like the American Psychological Association. His methodology was super messy — using non-standardized tests, testing illiterate people in English, and for a bunch of countries with no data he literally just guessed scores based on neighbors. Beyond that, the whole argument flips cause and effect. Environmental stuff like malaria, parasites, childhood malnutrition, and lack of schooling directly lower test performance. That's why the Flynn Effect exists: as countries build better schools and healthcare, their average IQ scores jump up over just a couple decades. Human DNA doesn't mutate that fast, the environment just improved.

The idea that culture is written in your DNA also doesn't hold up biologically. Culture is taught, not genetically inherited. If a baby born anywhere in the world is adopted at birth into a Western family, they grow up speaking the language, having the local accent, and absorbing the culture completely fine. If culture was genetic, it'd take tens of thousands of years for societal behaviors to change. But look at Europe — they went from centuries of brutal feudal warfare and two World Wars to the peaceful EU in under a single century. European DNA didn't mutate after 1945, their political and economic systems changed.

Same goes for the crime statistics point. Citing arrest rates doesn't prove any genetic predisposition to crime because arrests mostly measure police patrol density, urban population, and poverty levels. When criminologists control for income, family structure, and neighborhood wealth, those racial gaps in crime rates pretty much disappear. Concentrated poverty produces higher crime rates everywhere in the world regardless of who lives there.

Calling "race is a social construct" a dummy argument also ignores that it's literally the official stance of the American Association of Biological Anthropologists. Human genetic variation exists on a continuous spectrum, not neat little biological boxes. There's actually way more genetic diversity within sub-Saharan Africa alone than between Africans and non-Africans combined, so lumping billions of distinct people into broad skin color groups makes zero sense from a genetic standpoint.

And blaming South America's instability on "race mixing" completely ignores basic history. Their political and economic struggles stem from centuries of colonial exploitation, extreme wealth inequality, and foreign interference. Biologically speaking, having more genetic diversity is actually healthier for a population because it reduces the chances of inheriting rare recessive diseases. At the end of the day, culture, societal success, and crime are driven by history, institutions, and environment, not genetic determinism.


And by the way, people tends to associate correlation with causation, which is not true at all.

Here are some studies: http://www.iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010f.pdf
http://www.iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/flynn1987.pdf
https://bioanth.org/about/aaba-statement-on-race-racism/

 

[looks666]

Even though that is true just IQ alone determines how well someone will fit into the west and that is completely hereditary

that’s why basically any north East Asian immigrants fit in just fine and sometimes even overachieve the locals from the west

And the small % of outliers in certain groups also do but that doesn’t justify mass importing everyone and expecting them to fit in when they are evolved for that aggressive lifestyle

If anything the fact 3rd generation immigrants can’t even adapt to the west just proves it’s a waste they will all favour their own ways over western ways

if they are evolved in that way they will just be pushed into low income and killed by self-defenders. wealth and income already differentiates the bad from the good, and you shouldn't ever have to worry about getting attacked because you should have the capacity to defend yourself. aggression is universally not practical or profitable, so im not really ever concerned where i am. the only thing i am concerned with is being around people i like. i dont like black people, so i dont hang around black people. it makes no difference to me if they are 5 miles or 1000 miles away.

the only bad thing that could come from open borders is if you have socialist systems where the state forces and distorts the people to be altruistic, like public schooling and social security.

 

[Thinking_CEL]

Starting with the IQ map, that image comes straight from Richard Lynn's work which has been completely discredited by mainstream bodies like the American Psychological Association. His methodology was super messy — using non-standardized tests, testing illiterate people in English, and for a bunch of countries with no data he literally just guessed scores based on neighbors. Beyond that, the whole argument flips cause and effect. Environmental stuff like malaria, parasites, childhood malnutrition, and lack of schooling directly lower test performance. That's why the Flynn Effect exists: as countries build better schools and healthcare, their average IQ scores jump up over just a couple decades. Human DNA doesn't mutate that fast, the environment just improved.

The idea that culture is written in your DNA also doesn't hold up biologically. Culture is taught, not genetically inherited. If a baby born anywhere in the world is adopted at birth into a Western family, they grow up speaking the language, having the local accent, and absorbing the culture completely fine. If culture was genetic, it'd take tens of thousands of years for societal behaviors to change. But look at Europe — they went from centuries of brutal feudal warfare and two World Wars to the peaceful EU in under a single century. European DNA didn't mutate after 1945, their political and economic systems changed.

Same goes for the crime statistics point. Citing arrest rates doesn't prove any genetic predisposition to crime because arrests mostly measure police patrol density, urban population, and poverty levels. When criminologists control for income, family structure, and neighborhood wealth, those racial gaps in crime rates pretty much disappear. Concentrated poverty produces higher crime rates everywhere in the world regardless of who lives there.

Calling "race is a social construct" a dummy argument also ignores that it's literally the official stance of the American Association of Biological Anthropologists. Human genetic variation exists on a continuous spectrum, not neat little biological boxes. There's actually way more genetic diversity within sub-Saharan Africa alone than between Africans and non-Africans combined, so lumping billions of distinct people into broad skin color groups makes zero sense from a genetic standpoint.

And blaming South America's instability on "race mixing" completely ignores basic history. Their political and economic struggles stem from centuries of colonial exploitation, extreme wealth inequality, and foreign interference. Biologically speaking, having more genetic diversity is actually healthier for a population because it reduces the chances of inheriting rare recessive diseases. At the end of the day, culture, societal success, and crime are driven by history, institutions, and environment, not genetic determinism.


And by the way, people tends to associate correlation with causation, which is not true at all.

It is true that colonialism has been exploiting all southern countries on the globe which leaves them in a loop of eternal development status

Just hard to ignore the fact that in countries like the US majority white states like Arkansas are lowest on violent crimes even while being a poor state, meanwhile poorer black neighbourhoods are eternally full of violent crime

Ofc poor ppl do commit crime the thing is the difference between the way white ppl do it and blacks do

 

[pleasevanity]

Race can't be used to categorise people. Each race has their own "general" upsides and downsides however they aren't a predictor of what you can and can't be.

Blacks have the most testosterone, highest androgen sensitivity, fast twitch muscle fibres but they are also the most genetically diverse race on the planet.

Racial variation in sex steroid hormone concentration in black and white men: a meta-analysis - PubMed

Sex steroid hormones are associated with chronic diseases and mortality with risk associations that differ between racial and ethnic groups. However, it is currently unclear whether sex steroid hormone levels differ between black and white men. The aim of this study was to assess racial...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

(PDF) Skeletal muscle characteristics in sedentary Black and Caucasian Americans

PDF | Twenty-three male Black African and 23 male Caucasian subjects, ascertained as sedentary, participated in this study designed to determine whether... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

A black man from west africa might have more in common with a nordic (genetically) than a black man to another. This shows that races aren't a good way to define somebody. Before race was even a concept you probably hadn't even realised you were white, or black, or anything inbetween.

Pushing this narrative that "all races are different/unequal" is just spouting a harmful rhetoric that is used to justify cruelty towards marginalised groups. No, just because there is an IQ study showing that blacks have a lower iq on average does not mean that all blacks should be murdered. Hyperbolic, yes but it's those types of statements that blow up on the internet without knowing the harm it can do to a society.

The reality is a lot more nuanced than "race" could ever encapsulate.

 

[DarkAscender]

Then tell me why non European immigration has caused so much chaos in the west for the past decades? With many of the criminals being born and raised into western culture

Just seems to me like people refuse to admit this difference even though it’s on their faces the moment they go outside

You can only hide under inequality for so long

Non European immigrants just have fewer opportunities which leads some to a life of crime. And from the data its usually children of immigrants that commit more crime, influenced by the environment they grow up in. You’re scanning data from one side of a structural complex problem. Which doesn’t tell the whole story. European and Americans in the late 19th and 20th century commited crime and social disruption in similar rates when these environments were less economic and politically stable. Which hints towards less of a biologic cause of higher crime rate and more of a socio-economic one.

 

[bloodsleeve]

It is true that colonialism has been exploiting all southern countries on the globe which leaves them in a loop of eternal development status

Just hard to ignore the fact that in countries like the US majority white states like Arkansas are lowest on violent crimes even while being a poor state, meanwhile poorer black neighbourhoods are eternally full of violent crime

Ofc poor ppl do commit crime the thing is the difference between the way white ppl do it and blacks do

Arkansas is one of the highest state in the US with violent crimes per capita, its top 5 of all the states in the US (600 crimes per 100k residents)

Comparing an entire state to an inner-city neighborhood is a statistical mismatch. A state average combines rural areas, farmland, and suburbs across thousands of square miles. Rural poverty looks different from urban poverty because low population density naturally means fewer street-level interactions and turf wars.

High crimerates is driven by concentrated urban poverty, dense illegal drug markets, and lack of economic mobility, not race.

 

[Thinking_CEL]

Non European immigrants just have fewer opportunities which leads some to a life of crime. And from the data its usually children of immigrants that commit more crime, influenced by the environment they grow up in. You’re scanning data from one side of a structural complex problem. Which doesn’t tell the whole story. European and Americans in the late 19th and 20th century commited crime just as much as

Just feels like western countries made birth rate low due to years of propaganda about feminism, porn and contraceptions such as birth control

And now is trying to fix the problem by importing a bunch of people that will eventually outnumber westerners

They give these ppl no time to adapt atp it’s just an inevitability that it’ll lead to total replacement at which point how will they run the country?

 

[inyerta]

The only difference between human “races” are adaptations to environment and just minor phyiscal differences. Any other claims are just hidden racist agendas spewed by people with inaccurate and often dated information.

This way of thinking was used to justify colonialism, slavery and overall racism and inequality.

 

[DarkAscender]

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