Debunking "zero carb" diet

[Deleted member 30959]

The entire premise of the "zero carb" diet is that humans went nearly their entire existence only eating meat from animals. This is true however there is one very important detail that all zero carb dieters miss: Glycogen in fresh meat and organs

Glycolysis, the conversion of sugar to lactic acid doesn't rampantly occur until 24-48 HOURS of an animal being killed, in very cold climates, glycolysis doesn't occur until a week after the animal being killed (doesn't matter in nature, humans eat the animal right away). Now going back to the zero carb theory, if humans ate only meat, its obvious that they ate all of the meat from the animal after killing it, NEARLY RIGHT AWAY or 24 hours AT THE VERY MOST but highly unlikely. It's not even an assumption, every tribe that exists on earth today usually eats the entire animal right after killing it. If you eat freshly killed raw meat, it tasted sweet. Not even taking into account that IF TRIBES EAT HONEYCOMB AND FRUITS, WHY WOULDN'T YOUR ANCESTORS? THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF ALREADY.

The amounts of glycogen in various animal tissues can vary depending on the species, diet, and other factors. Here are some general estimates for glycogen content in different animal tissues:



Liver:
Approximately 100 to 150 grams of glycogen per kilogram (kg) of liver.

Skeletal muscle (MUSCLE MEAT):
Skeletal muscle is the primary type of meat consumed by humans. When you eat cuts of meat like beef, chicken, pork, lamb, or fish, you are primarily eating the skeletal muscles of the animal. This includes familiar cuts such as:

Steaks (from cows)
Chicken breasts, thighs, wings (from chickens)
Pork chops (from pigs)
Fish fillets (from fish)

Glycogen content in skeletal muscle can range from 300 to 600 grams per kg of muscle tissue, depending on the muscle type and the animal's activity level prior to slaughter.

Kidney:
Glycogen content in the kidneys is typically around 10 to 20 grams per kg of kidney tissue.

Heart:
The heart muscle contains glycogen in amounts roughly 30 to 50 grams per kg of heart tissue.ms of glycogen.


There is glycogen in blood too but I couldn't find any info cause normies are scared of it

Glycolysis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Post-Mortem Energy Metabolites, Glycolytic Potential, and Meat Quality Attributes from of Dorper and Merino Lambs

This study was conducted to evaluate the susceptibility of the Dorper and Merino breeds to pre-slaughter condition stress at a commercial abattoir and how it affects the quality of the meat produced. The objective of this study was to investigate differences in post-mortem energy metabolites...

www.mdpi.com

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[AlbinoMaxxer]

Good thread, been drinking the raw milk but a little hesitant to eat the raw liver

 

[Rabbi]

humans went nearly their entire existence only eating meat from animals

Do you really think early humans forgo all non-animal calories? Like they say fruit growing and trees and said fuck it I’m not eating that.

 

[Deleted member 30959]

Do you really think early humans forgo all non-animal calories? Like they say fruit growing and trees and said fuck it I’m not eating that.

It's saying from the zero carb diet's perspective, not from mine

 

[ey88]

Damn bro I was just gonna make a thread about this, I’ve been arguing with @Never Get Up too much, I had to prove him once and for all

 

[Rabbi]

Do you really think early humans forgo all non-animal calories? Like they say fruit growing and trees and said fuck it I’m not eating that.

Nvm I read on I’m retarded

 

[isis_Bleach]

nigga i eat beer and goyslop daily nonstop

 

[Deleted member 30959]

Good thread, been drinking the raw milk but a little hesitant to eat the raw liver

On the topic of milk, if humans aren't to consume carbohydrates, why is breast milk 10% carbs?

 

[ey88]

Good thread, been drinking the raw milk but a little hesitant to eat the raw liver

Just do it bro, don’t stress

 

[Deleted member 30959]

Just do it bro, don’t stress

Wrong thread lol

 

[ey88]

Not even taking into account that IF TRIBES EAT HONEYCOMB AND FRUITS, WHY WOULDN'T YOUR ANCESTORS? THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF ALREADY.

Yup

And carbs are needed for prebiotic functions for proper digestion

Our ancestors knew this, this is why the groups of people who do t eat much carbs, such as the Inuits ate very high amounts of fermented meat instead

 

[Eblan]

I can just imagine mfs starving 1000000 years ago and be like "Nah I'm not eating carbs bruh @Never Get Up said they're bad"

 

[longjohnmong]

molars

 

[Offensive Bias]

I can just imagine mfs starving 1000000 years ago and be like "Nah I'm not eating carbs bruh @Never Get Up said they're bad"

"You are dying of starvation because you ate carbs"

 

[Never Get Up]

1. Gluconeogenesis

2. Randle Cycle

3. Glycation

4. Just because someone eats fruits and honey doesn’t make it optimal because it’s not.

5. There are hardly any carbohydrates found in animal meat and fat.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

Once drank blood from a freshly downed buck. Tasted amazing.

 

[Deleted member 30959]

Once drank blood from a freshly downed buck. Tasted amazing.

I will drink blood and raw organs too soon cant fucking wait

 

[OldRooster]

Skeletal muscle (MUSCLE MEAT):


Glycogen content in skeletal muscle can range from 300 to 600 grams per kg of muscle tissue, depending on the muscle type and the animal's activity level prior to slaughter.

Not remotely close to being accurate. JFL you misread the units in the table. There are 1-2grams glycogen/kg beef

 

[Never Get Up]

Damn bro I was just gonna make a thread about this, I’ve been arguing with @Never Get Up too much, I had to prove him once and for all

Neither him or you proved anything other than a lack of knowledge on human physiology. Carbohydrates are not essential for human beings.

 

[ey88]

Neither him or you proved anything other than a lack of knowledge on human physiology. Carbohydrates are not essential for human beings.

You have never proved anything dude

 

[Never Get Up]

Yup

And carbs are needed for prebiotic functions for proper digestion

Our ancestors knew this, this is why the groups of people who do t eat much carbs, such as the Inuits ate very high amounts of fermented meat instead

False. Not a single amount of exogenous carbohydrates are required for humans to live.

 

[ey88]

False. Not a single amount of exogenous carbohydrates are required for humans to live.

Correct, maybe not to live

To be healthy you need them though

 

[Never Get Up]

You have never proved anything dude

The Randle Cycle is an actual mechanism that exists in your body. That alone shows you were are NOT designed to consume exogenous carbohydrates.

Your body has evolved to create its own glucose through precursors such as fat. We need carbohydrates in our body for brain and muscle function, but that doesn’t mean we have to eat them to get them.

 

[Never Get Up]

Correct, maybe not to live

To be healthy you need them though

False again. They make you unhealthy. Damn, you are losing brain functioning everyday. Must be all those carbohydrates you’re consuming.

 

[thereallegend]

1. Gluconeogenesis

2. Randle Cycle

3. Glycation

4. Just because someone eats fruits and honey doesn’t make it optimal because it’s not.

5. There are hardly any carbohydrates found in animal meat and fat.

All cope. Randle Cycle is Bart Kay cope. Our bodies can handle up to 12% glycation. Therefore raw milk, ingested honey and raw animal proteins are good for you. Only non glycating nutrient is raw animal fat.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

False again. They make you unhealthy. Damn, you are losing brain functioning everyday. Must be all those carbohydrates you’re consuming.

Go back to regular avi it makes you seem more Dominate in an argument

 

[Never Get Up]

All cope. Randle Cycle is Bart Kay cope. Our bodies can handle up to 12% glycation. Therefore raw milk, ingested honey and raw animal proteins are good for you. Only non glycating nutrient is raw animal fat.

Glycation is glycation. It doesn’t matter how much you consume, you will suffer from it.

Honey contains fructose, which is 7-11x more glycating than glucose. It should never be consumed whatsoever. There’s no justification to consuming honey other than a sugar addiction.

 

[Deleted member 6305]

Just let anti carbs retards die so they stop posting this bullshit

 

[Never Get Up]

Go back to regular avi it makes you seem more Dominate in an argument

There isn’t a debate to be had. I’m unassailable before I speak. I don’t speak on topics that I don’t know about. I’m here to If you need an “avatar halo” to persuade someone, that means what you’re saying has no value.

But yea, I’ll change it back.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

if you need an “avatar halo” to persuade someone, that means what you’re saying has no value.

From a viewers perspective you are seen as weaker. Thus appearing that you are losing the argument.

 

[Never Get Up]

From a viewers perspective you are seen as weaker. Thus appearing that you are losing the argument.

There, is that better for the subhumans?

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

There, is that better for the subhumans?

Yes thank you king

 

[thereallegend]

Glycation is glycation. It doesn’t matter how much you consume, you will suffer from it.

Honey contains fructose, which is 7-11x more glycating than glucose. It should never be consumed whatsoever. There’s no justification to consuming honey other than a sugar addiction.

Dude even protein is glycating. 7-8% glycation.

 

[Suns9999]

Go back to regular avi it makes you seem more Dominate in an argument

he changed it? what was the old one ?

 

[Aladin]

Dude even protein is glycating. 7-8% glycation.

@Never Get Up

 

[Never Get Up]

@Never Get Up

Glycation is defined as sugar binding to proteins and altering the structure of them.

Protein itself can not cause glycation. If you somehow overeat on carnivore, then yes, some proteins will convert into glucose and cause glycation.

 

[Never Get Up]

Dude even protein is glycating. 7-8% glycation.

Incorrect

 

[Aladin]

Glycation is defined as sugar binding to proteins and altering the structure of them.

Protein itself can not cause glycation. If you somehow overeat on carnivore, then yes, some proteins will convert into glucose and cause glycation.

Can’t it also be sugar and fat?

 

[Never Get Up]

Can’t it also be sugar and fat?

Fat does not cause glycation.

 

[Aladin]

Fat does not cause glycation.

I meant can’t a sugar bind to a fat?

 

[thereallegend]

Incorrect

Pyruvate is the sugar created from protein.