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Virgincel who’s been lurking for a year or so, and finally decided I needed to get off my ass and contribute to this community after having so much personal success with my looksmaxxing journey so far. This post is designed for degenerate sacks of shit who are too lazy or addicted to cut out alcohol and other poison’s while losing weight, like me. It’s a tough road to put yourself on, you really should just lose weight like a mature motherfucker, but obviously I get it if you just can’t help it. I say, even the fiends deserve to look good, do well, and fuck.
Quickish background:
- I’m a mid 20’s tennis coach, used to play d1, not at a particular high level, but was quite good and hardworking athletically. Always have had good bone structure and skin so never had to really worry about my looks growing up to get female attention. I really needed this community once I started to slip since I put almost no effort into self improvement in the years prior. I always had been doing harder and harder drugs more frequently for years, originally at a young age due to home life shit, and then well, just naturally being a fucking fiend for a strong high. However, I always cared enough about my tennis level to never go too nuts. I got arrested once and probation made me sober out when I was really going hard too which helped.
- Fast forward a few years after the arrest, (kinda bullshit I got pulled over since I was going 74 in a 70, not bullshit I got arrested since I had an ounce of weed and like 20 tabs of acid hehe) and I’m married, balding, fat, but still on the court grinding for cash as a country club pro. Knees and back fucked up at like age 23 and knew I needed to get my shit together. Found this forum and after a year and a half of grinding, my smv has went way back up, lost 40ish pounds and counting, been making way more cash because rich women love flirting with me, but I’ve still been a degenerate fuck getting really high and drunk pretty much daily throughout this entire period: here’s how I did it.
Leanmaxxing while still being a dumbass drunk or worse:
- For clarity: Leanmaxxing is so much harder while being an alcoholic, as evidenced by me only losing of 40 pounds in a year and a half. However, it can be done, and done well: all of my 40 pounds has been lost in the last 8 months. The majority of my looksmaxx journey has been shot in the foot due to me struggling to lose weight while drinking copious amounts and eating shit. Also made my job way harder and almost unmanageable as a nice bonus. However, I feel like I finally got into a good routine with a sustainable mindset and habits, and am confident that I will keep ascending.
Overall Most Important Habit:
Absolute water, but you’re fucked trying to lose weight as an alcoholic fiend if you don’t do this. Track or at least have a rough idea of your macros, maintenance calories, and extra energy expenditure throughout the day: then put yourself at a deficit. I mean, how else are you going to lose weight?
Lifestyle habits:
Most important:
- Drink only the liquor you love at home, with a no calorie mixer that’s good. Wine and light beer are fine if you can only do that, but it will make the weight loss journey significantly harder when you’re talking about an extra 100-200 empty calories a day. I do Tanqueray or Bombay gin with diet ginger ale and ice. Don’t have caffeine in your mixer and fuck your sleep to tears. If going out, pregame with that drink hard then get a light beer or 2 when out, don’t go nuts. I was drinking box wine, regular beer, and whiskey when fat. Even with clean eating and starving you’re in for a losing battle long term drinking like that.
Essential:
- Burn calories: Besides getting less empty calories, this is the biggest thing you can do to make life easier besides blunting your appetite which I’ll give some tips for later. Those empty calories from the alcohol will blunt your progress much less if you’re burning 4000 calories a day rather than 2000. Of course this gets less and less sustainable the more drugs/alcohol you consume, but I mean pretty much everything does too lol.
- Strength training: yeah, you’re gonna get weaker than the lineup at a German comedy festival while losing weight if you’re doing drugs and drinking without working out. Your body will burn a shitload of muscle instead of fat unless you key in on resistance training at least a couple times a week
- Eat a lot of protein: your muscles will be fucked from normal recovery times anyway, especially if you’re exercising a lot.
- Stay hydrated: Being dehydrated will make your hangover, skin, body, life, and soul way worse if you’re slamming liquor and drugs. You also need to eat at least enough fat to function alright, you’re getting a ton of easy carbs from the drinks so the only tough macro to hit is protein.
- Take hair care and skincare seriously: alcohol and drugs are horrible for blood flow and testosterone, you’re gonna have shit hair way earlier than naturally so even before you’re receding you should strongly consider finasteride to maintain. It’s also shit for the skin so moisturize and cleanse and shit.
- Get out of bed: I know man, sometimes everything is fucked and your head is pounding and your girl was a huge bitch the night before, but losing your job or failing that test or whatever is going to make you worry about that shit instead of on looksmaxx gains. That’s the best case scenario too, and at worst one single hangover at the worst time can absolutely ruin your life. Make sure you’re going to bed hydrated and not insanely malnourished. It’s also fine to cheat nutritionally on a crazy hangover morning, just track it and move on, starting the day is the first step to doing anything you gotta fight through it. Plus, laying in bed will just prolong the agony even if it’s easier.
- Budget late night calories. I try to give myself at least 500 calories after dinner since I know that the liquor and weed and whatever will have me ravenously reaching for shit. What’s worked for me is high volume snacks like popcorn or cucumbers and tajin. If beef jerky wasn’t so expensive it would be a staple as well since it’s high protein and takes a long time to chew. Eating time matters here, things that take a long time to eat will get you closer to when you can pass out fucked up with a calorie deficit.
- Set a time you try to go to bed: sleep is so important for a degenerate. Your body has more strain on it, it needs to recover. Pop a melatonin or budget a couple drinks of liquor for sleep, say every night at 11:00pm. At least get in the mindset of you should be going to sleep, staying up all night will make self improvement the next days so much harder.
- have some time not drunk/high. I guess this is mostly for just being drunk, but the body doesn’t burn calories even at a deficit when drunk. It will process the alcohol first. You’re going to have to burn your fat while sober from the bottle, but it doesn’t have to be for long.
Suggested:
- Check your hormone levels: even at a young age they could be fucked from the drugs.
- Supplements: you’re giving yourself a lot of empty calories so it’s gonna be tough to hit all nutritional goals even with clean eating. Also you probably aren’t absorbing shit super well so you might need more help than you think.
-Have late night methods of calorie burning. This could be sex, pushups, plyometrics, a walk or run around the block, doesn’t matter really. What’s important is understanding that you’re probably going to drink or eat more than you should, but the healthy way to view that is that your reward for doing a run is a couple shots of liquor or that the liquor you drank was ok since you’re going to go on a run. Then y’know actually do the run if you choose that route. Have different ways at different times that you can reach your goals of being fucked up while still being in a deficit.
- When sick, cut off all substances: you’re going to feel like shit anyways so you might as well use that time to clean out a bit.
Degenerate Hacks:
- Smoke weed with your drinks: It’ll make you feel way more drunk, just smoke before drinking and try not to get crossed and dizzy.
- Do stimulants: Stimulants are the biggest weight suppressant drug class out there. So easy to be active, low appetite, and it boosts your metabolism like crazy. Horrific for the heart and sleep, you’re gonna want to have at least melatonin to knock you out and not dose too late in the day. Super addictive too, I’ve stolen my wife’s addy pills dozens of times despite it really putting a strain on the marriage. Play at your own risk here.
-Kratom is honesty a really good legal appetite suppressant that pairs great with weed, much easier to stave off addiction from, still pretty addictive lol.
- Caffeine is also a great and much more healthy legal weight loss helper.
- nicotine kind of helps but it’s so not worth it and way shittier than anything else mentioned for losing weight.
- Hangover exercise: if you can stomach it, this is prime fat burning time for your body. I intermittent fast and teach in the mornings. So I’m exercising for maybe 3-4 hours lightly to moderately hungover powered by a couple zero calorie monsters and nicotine. Sometimes Kratom and/or weed as well, but I’m not trying to be fucked up at work so I keep that light usually.
- pay attention to which drugs/combinations make you prone to over-eating/under-eating. For me, weed is worse than alcohol, but combined they’re not that bad for my hunger and cravings. Everyone’s body is different so what works for me isn’t necessarily going to work for someone else.
- Choose either drinking or eating food when you’re getting close to your total calorie intake for the day: You’re going to be fucking hungry and fiending and want to go over by a thousand calories every night, losing weight sucks, you’ll be hungry. Instead of spending 20 bucks at Taco Bell you need to think of small rewards. Say it’s like midnight, you’re barely fucked up anymore and you’re starving, but have only 300 more calories for the day. You can either get drunk or you can snack, if you do both you’re just going to be hungry and not fucked up. If you’re still reading this post, your brain isn’t normal, you have a compulsive disorder of some sort probably, and you gotta feel satisfied. So, feel satisfied, but just with one, it’s unlikely you can do both and still reach your goals.
Important thing to note:
- Be mindful of drug interactions: So,if you’re doing a lot of the shit I’ve said with no regard for how it all intersects, then you’re going to puke or OD or some shit. Start low and slow with everything, see how your body takes it. If you’re swagging on a few things and you take a few hits of weed all of a sudden you can be fucked up for the next 12-16 hours. You’re playing with fire living this lifestyle, if you want to not just survive, but actually thrive, you need to be incredibly mindful of how much you can handle and when. I’m talking specific amounts of hits/lines/drinks. You have to know this shit when fucked out of your mind so best believe you have to know it like the back of your hand sober to remember it in that state.
Quickish background:
- I’m a mid 20’s tennis coach, used to play d1, not at a particular high level, but was quite good and hardworking athletically. Always have had good bone structure and skin so never had to really worry about my looks growing up to get female attention. I really needed this community once I started to slip since I put almost no effort into self improvement in the years prior. I always had been doing harder and harder drugs more frequently for years, originally at a young age due to home life shit, and then well, just naturally being a fucking fiend for a strong high. However, I always cared enough about my tennis level to never go too nuts. I got arrested once and probation made me sober out when I was really going hard too which helped.
- Fast forward a few years after the arrest, (kinda bullshit I got pulled over since I was going 74 in a 70, not bullshit I got arrested since I had an ounce of weed and like 20 tabs of acid hehe) and I’m married, balding, fat, but still on the court grinding for cash as a country club pro. Knees and back fucked up at like age 23 and knew I needed to get my shit together. Found this forum and after a year and a half of grinding, my smv has went way back up, lost 40ish pounds and counting, been making way more cash because rich women love flirting with me, but I’ve still been a degenerate fuck getting really high and drunk pretty much daily throughout this entire period: here’s how I did it.
Leanmaxxing while still being a dumbass drunk or worse:
- For clarity: Leanmaxxing is so much harder while being an alcoholic, as evidenced by me only losing of 40 pounds in a year and a half. However, it can be done, and done well: all of my 40 pounds has been lost in the last 8 months. The majority of my looksmaxx journey has been shot in the foot due to me struggling to lose weight while drinking copious amounts and eating shit. Also made my job way harder and almost unmanageable as a nice bonus. However, I feel like I finally got into a good routine with a sustainable mindset and habits, and am confident that I will keep ascending.
Overall Most Important Habit:
Absolute water, but you’re fucked trying to lose weight as an alcoholic fiend if you don’t do this. Track or at least have a rough idea of your macros, maintenance calories, and extra energy expenditure throughout the day: then put yourself at a deficit. I mean, how else are you going to lose weight?
Lifestyle habits:
Most important:
- Drink only the liquor you love at home, with a no calorie mixer that’s good. Wine and light beer are fine if you can only do that, but it will make the weight loss journey significantly harder when you’re talking about an extra 100-200 empty calories a day. I do Tanqueray or Bombay gin with diet ginger ale and ice. Don’t have caffeine in your mixer and fuck your sleep to tears. If going out, pregame with that drink hard then get a light beer or 2 when out, don’t go nuts. I was drinking box wine, regular beer, and whiskey when fat. Even with clean eating and starving you’re in for a losing battle long term drinking like that.
Essential:
- Burn calories: Besides getting less empty calories, this is the biggest thing you can do to make life easier besides blunting your appetite which I’ll give some tips for later. Those empty calories from the alcohol will blunt your progress much less if you’re burning 4000 calories a day rather than 2000. Of course this gets less and less sustainable the more drugs/alcohol you consume, but I mean pretty much everything does too lol.
- Strength training: yeah, you’re gonna get weaker than the lineup at a German comedy festival while losing weight if you’re doing drugs and drinking without working out. Your body will burn a shitload of muscle instead of fat unless you key in on resistance training at least a couple times a week
- Eat a lot of protein: your muscles will be fucked from normal recovery times anyway, especially if you’re exercising a lot.
- Stay hydrated: Being dehydrated will make your hangover, skin, body, life, and soul way worse if you’re slamming liquor and drugs. You also need to eat at least enough fat to function alright, you’re getting a ton of easy carbs from the drinks so the only tough macro to hit is protein.
- Take hair care and skincare seriously: alcohol and drugs are horrible for blood flow and testosterone, you’re gonna have shit hair way earlier than naturally so even before you’re receding you should strongly consider finasteride to maintain. It’s also shit for the skin so moisturize and cleanse and shit.
- Get out of bed: I know man, sometimes everything is fucked and your head is pounding and your girl was a huge bitch the night before, but losing your job or failing that test or whatever is going to make you worry about that shit instead of on looksmaxx gains. That’s the best case scenario too, and at worst one single hangover at the worst time can absolutely ruin your life. Make sure you’re going to bed hydrated and not insanely malnourished. It’s also fine to cheat nutritionally on a crazy hangover morning, just track it and move on, starting the day is the first step to doing anything you gotta fight through it. Plus, laying in bed will just prolong the agony even if it’s easier.
- Budget late night calories. I try to give myself at least 500 calories after dinner since I know that the liquor and weed and whatever will have me ravenously reaching for shit. What’s worked for me is high volume snacks like popcorn or cucumbers and tajin. If beef jerky wasn’t so expensive it would be a staple as well since it’s high protein and takes a long time to chew. Eating time matters here, things that take a long time to eat will get you closer to when you can pass out fucked up with a calorie deficit.
- Set a time you try to go to bed: sleep is so important for a degenerate. Your body has more strain on it, it needs to recover. Pop a melatonin or budget a couple drinks of liquor for sleep, say every night at 11:00pm. At least get in the mindset of you should be going to sleep, staying up all night will make self improvement the next days so much harder.
- have some time not drunk/high. I guess this is mostly for just being drunk, but the body doesn’t burn calories even at a deficit when drunk. It will process the alcohol first. You’re going to have to burn your fat while sober from the bottle, but it doesn’t have to be for long.
Suggested:
- Check your hormone levels: even at a young age they could be fucked from the drugs.
- Supplements: you’re giving yourself a lot of empty calories so it’s gonna be tough to hit all nutritional goals even with clean eating. Also you probably aren’t absorbing shit super well so you might need more help than you think.
-Have late night methods of calorie burning. This could be sex, pushups, plyometrics, a walk or run around the block, doesn’t matter really. What’s important is understanding that you’re probably going to drink or eat more than you should, but the healthy way to view that is that your reward for doing a run is a couple shots of liquor or that the liquor you drank was ok since you’re going to go on a run. Then y’know actually do the run if you choose that route. Have different ways at different times that you can reach your goals of being fucked up while still being in a deficit.
- When sick, cut off all substances: you’re going to feel like shit anyways so you might as well use that time to clean out a bit.
Degenerate Hacks:
- Smoke weed with your drinks: It’ll make you feel way more drunk, just smoke before drinking and try not to get crossed and dizzy.
- Do stimulants: Stimulants are the biggest weight suppressant drug class out there. So easy to be active, low appetite, and it boosts your metabolism like crazy. Horrific for the heart and sleep, you’re gonna want to have at least melatonin to knock you out and not dose too late in the day. Super addictive too, I’ve stolen my wife’s addy pills dozens of times despite it really putting a strain on the marriage. Play at your own risk here.
-Kratom is honesty a really good legal appetite suppressant that pairs great with weed, much easier to stave off addiction from, still pretty addictive lol.
- Caffeine is also a great and much more healthy legal weight loss helper.
- nicotine kind of helps but it’s so not worth it and way shittier than anything else mentioned for losing weight.
- Hangover exercise: if you can stomach it, this is prime fat burning time for your body. I intermittent fast and teach in the mornings. So I’m exercising for maybe 3-4 hours lightly to moderately hungover powered by a couple zero calorie monsters and nicotine. Sometimes Kratom and/or weed as well, but I’m not trying to be fucked up at work so I keep that light usually.
- pay attention to which drugs/combinations make you prone to over-eating/under-eating. For me, weed is worse than alcohol, but combined they’re not that bad for my hunger and cravings. Everyone’s body is different so what works for me isn’t necessarily going to work for someone else.
- Choose either drinking or eating food when you’re getting close to your total calorie intake for the day: You’re going to be fucking hungry and fiending and want to go over by a thousand calories every night, losing weight sucks, you’ll be hungry. Instead of spending 20 bucks at Taco Bell you need to think of small rewards. Say it’s like midnight, you’re barely fucked up anymore and you’re starving, but have only 300 more calories for the day. You can either get drunk or you can snack, if you do both you’re just going to be hungry and not fucked up. If you’re still reading this post, your brain isn’t normal, you have a compulsive disorder of some sort probably, and you gotta feel satisfied. So, feel satisfied, but just with one, it’s unlikely you can do both and still reach your goals.
Important thing to note:
- Be mindful of drug interactions: So,if you’re doing a lot of the shit I’ve said with no regard for how it all intersects, then you’re going to puke or OD or some shit. Start low and slow with everything, see how your body takes it. If you’re swagging on a few things and you take a few hits of weed all of a sudden you can be fucked up for the next 12-16 hours. You’re playing with fire living this lifestyle, if you want to not just survive, but actually thrive, you need to be incredibly mindful of how much you can handle and when. I’m talking specific amounts of hits/lines/drinks. You have to know this shit when fucked out of your mind so best believe you have to know it like the back of your hand sober to remember it in that state.
