Depression took all my gains and made it impossible to build muscles

[Deusmaximus]

My story: I was at my total genetic limit with 22. Trained from 16-22 like crazy. Had insane power and pumps at the gym. People at school called me a roidhead. Was 83kg lean at 178cm. Then at 22/23 i fell into deep depression and lethargy (also because of lacking dating success). I went to the gym and could not even train half as hard or heavy as before.
Lost 10kg and got skinny fat. My old friends all laughed at me and stopped taking me serious. I went from a frightening hooligan looking dude to a depressed skinny fat nobody.
I got diagnosed with low t (265), but never took any trt.
Now i am 27 and after 10 years of training i am 68kg and cant build any muscle. I have no pumps and cant lift heavy anymore. I also dont really sweat. It makes me depressed thinking about old times where i was a beast at the gym
I get sick a lot, and feel fragile.
My t levels are average now (520), maybe because i take finasteride since 1 year. Estrogen is on the higher end of the range.
What should i do?? Maybe my androgen receptors are fried because i was low t?

 

[Deleted member 14323]

All good bro just inject! Got to stick to ur sigma male grindset!

 

[Deusmaximus]

All good bro just inject! Got to stick to ur sigma male grindset!

I cant inject, because i dont think finasteride can lower dht enough. My hair will fall off the same as without fin.

 

[Deleted member 14323]

I cant inject, because i dont think finasteride can lower dht enough. My hair will fall off the same as without fin.

Bro just wear a wig!

looks good no?

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

Brutal

 

[volcelfatcel]

the agepill is brutal
finasteride unironically increases T since less of it converts to DHT doubt it's that jfl.

 

[WannaBeA6]

if you have depression just get happy

 

[Deleted member 14274]

the agepill is brutal
finasteride unironically increases T since less of it converts to DHT doubt it's that jfl.

Fin increases T by 15% and Dut increases by 25%. JFL at people that say fin reduces muscle gains.

 

[FootLongDong]

Fin increases T by 15% and Dut increases by 25%. JFL at people that say fin reduces muscle gains.

True but it’s the dht that gives you beastmode

 

[randomvanish]

it might stupid dumb but i ended my depression by doing what i like. do something you like and make money out of it.

 

[Deleted member 14274]

True but it’s the dht that gives you beastmode

Peak retard

 

[Deusmaximus]

Peak retard

But roidcels are injecting dht derivatives like winstrol or masteron, which give them strength and muscle growth.
So dht is not totally useless and without any effect.

 

[Deleted member 14274]

But roidcels are injecting dht derivatives like winstrol or masteron, which give them strength and muscle growth.
So dht is not totally useless and without any effect.

Goddamn that’s not how it fucking works those are tissue selective compounds. Do some basic research next time before making bro science arguments. DHT is an absolute garbage hormone.

5α-Reductase inhibition does not adversely affect muscle mass - Nature Reviews Urology

www.nature.com

 

[Deleted member 14528]

My story: I was at my total genetic limit with 22. Trained from 16-22 like crazy. Had insane power and pumps at the gym. People at school called me a roidhead. Was 83kg lean at 178cm. Then at 22/23 i fell into deep depression and lethargy (also because of lacking dating success). I went to the gym and could not even train half as hard or heavy as before.
Lost 10kg and got skinny fat. My old friends all laughed at me and stopped taking me serious. I went from a frightening hooligan looking dude to a depressed skinny fat nobody.
I got diagnosed with low t (265), but never took any trt.
Now i am 27 and after 10 years of training i am 68kg and cant build any muscle. I have no pumps and cant lift heavy anymore. I also dont really sweat. It makes me depressed thinking about old times where i was a beast at the gym
I get sick a lot, and feel fragile.
My t levels are average now (520), maybe because i take finasteride since 1 year. Estrogen is on the higher end of the range.
What should i do?? Maybe my androgen receptors are fried because i was low t?

Stop being a bitch and go back to gym, take ashwagandha and pre workout

 

[Deleted member 13335]

If you were diagnosed low T and seriously lost your gains just because of that, you have to take medications.

 

[Deleted member 13335]

Stop being a bitch and go back to gym, take ashwagandha and pre workout

pre workout wont help with such serious problems

 

[Deleted member 14138]

My story: I was at my total genetic limit with 22. Trained from 16-22 like crazy. Had insane power and pumps at the gym. People at school called me a roidhead. Was 83kg lean at 178cm. Then at 22/23 i fell into deep depression and lethargy (also because of lacking dating success). I went to the gym and could not even train half as hard or heavy as before.
Lost 10kg and got skinny fat. My old friends all laughed at me and stopped taking me serious. I went from a frightening hooligan looking dude to a depressed skinny fat nobody.
I got diagnosed with low t (265), but never took any trt.
Now i am 27 and after 10 years of training i am 68kg and cant build any muscle. I have no pumps and cant lift heavy anymore. I also dont really sweat. It makes me depressed thinking about old times where i was a beast at the gym
I get sick a lot, and feel fragile.
My t levels are average now (520), maybe because i take finasteride since 1 year. Estrogen is on the higher end of the range.
What should i do?? Maybe my androgen receptors are fried because i was low t?

I peaked physically at 22 as well. After that, sleep apnea has fucked me permanently in the ass and ive been trying to get back to where I was back then ever since. You don't seem to be a big steroid head, so maybe you can try creatine like im doing. I just have to do an extremely low does because of my head aches. And it seems to help at least with this mini bulk im doing.

 

[randomvanish]

Goddamn that’s not how it fucking works those are tissue selective compounds. Do some basic research next time before making bro science arguments. DHT is an absolute garbage hormone.

5α-Reductase inhibition does not adversely affect muscle mass - Nature Reviews Urology

www.nature.com

i agree with you on dht but seriously then why roiders become beast by using dht derivatives, what's science behind on it?

 

[Hero of the Imperium]

DHT is by far the more powerful androgen. This is why it affects prostate, hair, orgasmic function, central nervous system strength and resiliency, etc. It is true that testosterone is the main anabolic hormone in the muscles

If you don't have DHT your psychology will be affected negatively, which will be a factor in lowering your natural test production. So think and treat carefully and see how you respond