Design session with Eppley. Need advice moving forward

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DatGuyYouLike said:
Yeah his zygos looked like Chad. He didn't get the male model look but he gave me the impression of a jock with his masculine and robust zygos, so Eppley delivered here.

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I agree the jaw implants were a bad idea, especially at the front (because the implanted chin area becomes incongruent with the mouth and upper jaw position). Jaw implants can look good on the ramus (rfromm's ramus looks good), but the wraparound implant covering the front is always inferior to chin wing/bimax/genioplasty in my view.
i hope im right but i think rfromm wasnt low bf in these pics , if thats cope than tbh the implants made him look bloated af, the only good results i saw were from yaremchuk on realself.com
 
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EdwardCullen said:
i hope im right but i think rfromm wasnt low bf in these pics , if thats cope than tbh the implants made him look bloated af, the only good results i saw were from yaremchuk on realself.com

He's still bloated in all these pics so far, because he had a big wrap around jaw implant too which swells a ton
 
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Its been about four months since the surgery. I think there is still a little swelling in the cheek areas. Still feeling a slight stinging pain when I lay down face forward. Also, I have actually raised my BF% to 15, so have to work on getting that down, But the jawline is starting to look good I think. You can see the sharpness of it as well as how pronounced it is and with the cheek implants, its really given me added balance and harmony to my face. Let me know how it looks to you, feel free to be honest. Also going to get a vermillion advancement on the lips next month. With the wider jaw it has made my smaller lips more noticeable.
 
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Its been about four months since the surgery. I think there is still a little swelling in the cheek areas. Still feeling a slight stinging pain when I lay down face forward. Also, I have actually raised my BF% to 15, so have to work on getting that down, But the jawline is starting to look good I think. You can see the sharpness of it as well as how pronounced it is and with the cheek implants, its really given me added balance and harmony to my face. Let me know how it looks to you, feel free to be honest. Also going to get a vermillion advancement on the lips next month. With the wider jaw it has made my smaller lips more noticeable.

Cheekbones look striking especially in this pic, should certainly help with your modelling career.



Another great zygo implant result from Eppley, very impressive.
 
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You think lowering BF% will help with the jawline? I realized most male models have like 7-8% BF. Also I started my AGGA treatment last week. Its supposed to grow the upper and lower jaws 1 mm forward per month. My recession/maloclussion is 5mm so i anticipate ill be wearing it for 5-6 months.
 
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You think lowering BF% will help with the jawline? I realized most male models have like 7-8% BF. Also I started my AGGA treatment last week. Its supposed to grow the upper and lower jaws 1 mm forward per month. My recession/maloclussion is 5mm so i anticipate ill be wearing it for 5-6 months.

No I don't think it will help with the jawline, 15% BF isn't high and lots of people have sharp jawlines at that percentage. Either the swelling is still there, or the implant cant achieve a sharp look because its too thick for the level of sharpness you want.
 
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rfromm01 said:
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Its been about four months since the surgery. I think there is still a little swelling in the cheek areas. Still feeling a slight stinging pain when I lay down face forward. Also, I have actually raised my BF% to 15, so have to work on getting that down, But the jawline is starting to look good I think. You can see the sharpness of it as well as how pronounced it is and with the cheek implants, its really given me added balance and harmony to my face. Let me know how it looks to you, feel free to be honest. Also going to get a vermillion advancement on the lips next month. With the wider jaw it has made my smaller lips more noticeable.
looks good

how does it feel when you touch your jawline? can you tell that it isnt bone?
 
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lasthope said:
looks good

how does it feel when you touch your jawline? can you tell that it isnt bone?
nope cant tell
 
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You look more Chad/robust than before even though your mouth is a bit small... although it's probably more noticeable in pics than in person. Are you getting better reactions from women?
 
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Looksmax25 said:
You look more Chad/robust than before even though your mouth is a bit small... although it's probably more noticeable in pics than in person. Are you getting better reactions from women?
Honestly with Covid here in Illinois theres not alot of social events to go to. Additionally, the state is being shut down again. Ive been Ubering alot because that has been a gold mine on top of my current job. There was one girl who didnt say anything the whole ride but when i dropped her off she asked how old I was and thought I looked 19. She then asked me for my Snapchat. I just got back from a wedding and alot of people complimented how good I was looking. Got some comparisons to celebrity lookalikes. Alot of people think I look younger than what I am which is 26. People think im between 19-21 So yeah there is noticeable differences I feel. I think losing the BF will help alot too. Its just Ive been so tired with all these procedures and everything ive kind of lost track of keeping myself healthy.
 
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rfromm01 said:
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Its been about four months since the surgery. I think there is still a little swelling in the cheek areas. Still feeling a slight stinging pain when I lay down face forward. Also, I have actually raised my BF% to 15, so have to work on getting that down, But the jawline is starting to look good I think. You can see the sharpness of it as well as how pronounced it is and with the cheek implants, its really given me added balance and harmony to my face. Let me know how it looks to you, feel free to be honest. Also going to get a vermillion advancement on the lips next month. With the wider jaw it has made my smaller lips more noticeable.
Your midface still lacks volume and appears sunken, which is because you're recessed. Your mouth and palate are small/narrow which is because of your maxilla. Harmony 404
 
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The result is 6/10.

The chin looks weird but that wouldn't be a problem without the ridiculous beard transplant. Why tf anyone would get a beard transplant is beyond me. I have literally never seen a remotely realistic beard transplant.
 
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rfromm01 said:
You think lowering BF% will help with the jawline? I realized most male models have like 7-8% BF. Also I started my AGGA treatment last week. Its supposed to grow the upper and lower jaws 1 mm forward per month. My recession/maloclussion is 5mm so i anticipate ill be wearing it for 5-6 months.

You actually look higher than 15% body fat... maybe closer to 20%. Yes, losing the fat will help your face look a lot sharper.


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No I don't think it will help with the jawline, 15% BF isn't high and lots of people have sharp jawlines at that percentage. Either the swelling is still there, or the implant cant achieve a sharp look because its too thick for the level of sharpness you want.

Disagree.. he clearly has a decent amount of extra fat. Swelling is probably almost all gone (may be a tiny amount left). "Sharpness" has nothing to do with the thickness of the implant, it's about how much the implant sticks out from the level of the skin/fat of the neck.
 
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I can't understand if it is me that I am always paranoid and biased because I know the person did the surgery, or is it always the case that implant look face and plastic
 
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Dude, i love that you actually went through with this. A marked improvement. You're an inspiration. If you want some advice, i would consider undereye filler. Also did you get a beard transplant (something about it seems too sharp and off)? I haven't read the entire thread honestly. Another thing is that you should 1000000% change your hair back to this...



That wild greasy look makes you look really really non NT.
 
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Well, I don't understand how he achieved that look on his eyes area.

I mean, we all know that jaw implants is fucking cope, especially when you are recessed, but for infraorbital and zygo the only option is implant.

Now, why he get a shit ogee curve and not like Sayan result?
 
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Y2J97 said:
Well, I don't understand how he achieved that look on his eyes area.

I mean, we all know that jaw implants is fucking cope, especially when you are recessed, but for infraorbital and zygo the only option is implant.

Now, why he get a shit ogee curve and not like Sayan result?

Its a differently designed shape to what Saiyan had.

Saiyan implant design:




rfromm implant design:
 
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DatGuyYouLike said:
Its a differently designed shape to what Saiyan had.

Saiyan implant design:
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rfromm implant design:
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It seems only paranasal area as difference.

I can't afford to miss this surgery, eyes area is so difficult to improve and I don't wanna look uncanny (like shitty ogee curve o looks bloated).

Eppley ask something like 18k for silicone (i don't consider for bone reabsorption) and 30k in Peek (too much).
I'm starting to consider to ask Eppley himself to design my Implant, and put the Peek with one other surgeon in Europe.
 
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Hi all,

I just had a vermillion advancement done,. Already everything is looking more harmonous. I will update this thread next week with new pictures as I have to return to Eppley to get my sutures out. Theres Still a little swelling, so I still have mild bumblebee lips, but this should be gone next week. I've also achieved about 1.5 mm in forward growth thanks to my appliance.
 
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Do we have results? Is op dead?
 
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jfl 1 month results were awesome where is op
 
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Dutcher said:
Do we have results? Is op dead?

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Its been about four months since the surgery. I think there is still a little swelling in the cheek areas. Still feeling a slight stinging pain when I lay down face forward. Also, I have actually raised my BF% to 15, so have to work on getting that down, But the jawline is starting to look good I think. You can see the sharpness of it as well as how pronounced it is and with the cheek implants, its really given me added balance and harmony to my face. Let me know how it looks to you, feel free to be honest. Also going to get a vermillion advancement on the lips next month. With the wider jaw it has made my smaller lips more noticeable."
 
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DatGuyYouLike said:
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Its been about four months since the surgery. I think there is still a little swelling in the cheek areas. Still feeling a slight stinging pain when I lay down face forward. Also, I have actually raised my BF% to 15, so have to work on getting that down, But the jawline is starting to look good I think. You can see the sharpness of it as well as how pronounced it is and with the cheek implants, its really given me added balance and harmony to my face. Let me know how it looks to you, feel free to be honest. Also going to get a vermillion advancement on the lips next month. With the wider jaw it has made my smaller lips more noticeable."
What do you think? They look pretty good. I wish we had more pics
 
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Dutcher said:
What do you think? They look pretty good. I wish we had more pics

I think the cheekbones got a better result than the jaw. IMO chin wing and bimax are superior to jaw implants, although jaw implants can give decent results sometimes.
 
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DatGuyYouLike said:
I think the cheekbones got a better result than the jaw. IMO chin wing and bimax are superior to jaw implants, although jaw implants can give decent results sometimes.
Hmm. I think its pretty angular. I will probably go for widening implants after my DJS with E
 
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DatGuyYouLike said:
I think the cheekbones got a better result than the jaw. IMO chin wing and bimax are superior to jaw implants, although jaw implants can give decent results sometimes.
Also the cheek results are very good. E is a master there
 
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Dutcher said:
Hmm. I think its pretty angular. I will probably go for widening implants after my DJS with E

Thats what Im doing too, but if I wasn't having bimax and wanted a wider jaw, I would go with chin wing over implants.
 
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Dutcher said:
Also the cheek results are very good. E is a master there

Yeah they can be good but you have to be moderate imo, some results have looked very fake. above 4mm projection your taking chances
 
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DatGuyYouLike said:
I think the cheekbones got a better result than the jaw. IMO chin wing and bimax are superior to jaw implants, although jaw implants can give decent results sometimes.
Don't you see how it looks off, especially lips wise?
Reminds me of tyryionlanistercel
 
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rfromm01 said:
Read my last post, just had lip surgery a few days ago.
Hey dude. Can you post some pics before the lip surgery? I assume E did the lips? Were you not worried about the scars
 
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rfromm01 said:
Hi all,

I just had a vermillion advancement done,. Already everything is looking more harmonous. I will update this thread next week with new pictures as I have to return to Eppley to get my sutures out. Theres Still a little swelling, so I still have mild bumblebee lips, but this should be gone next week. I've also achieved about 1.5 mm in forward growth thanks to my appliance.


Hi dude, did you get plastic V-WY for the lips? how much? Did you discuss about the shape?
 
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rfromm01 said:
Read my last post, just had lip surgery a few days ago.

Did you also have a lip lift as well or was it just an advancement? I'm thinking of doing a lip lift but my upper lip is already decently full and I don't wanna get QUACK QUACK upper lip.
 
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Looksmax25 said:
Did you also have a lip lift as well or was it just an advancement? I'm thinking of doing a lip lift but my upper lip is already decently full and I don't wanna get QUACK QUACK upper lip.


Full vermillion advancement as well as lip lift. Had bottom lip done too to fix flat cupids bow
 
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rfromm01 said:
Full vermillion advancement as well as lip lift. Had bottom lip done too to fix flat cupids bow

Oh ok, how many mm was your lip lift? I know there are some docs that can do a lip lift/reduction combo so as to reduce the philtrum without making the upper lip bigger.
 
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Looksmax25 said:
Oh ok, how many mm was your lip lift? I know there are some docs that can do a lip lift/reduction combo so as to reduce the philtrum without making the upper lip bigger.

I think 3mm on top 1 on bottom, I will double check Monday when I see him
 
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rfromm01 said:
I think 3mm on top 1 on bottom, I will double check Monday when I see him

Thanks bud, PM pics please b/c I need about 3mm removed from my philtrum as well
 
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Dutcher said:
Hey dude. Can you post some pics before the lip surgery? I assume E did the lips? Were you not worried about the scars

Lol every picture I posted in here is a before pic. I pretty much had no lips
 
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rfromm01 said:
Lol every picture I posted in here is a before pic. I pretty much had no lips
I meant more. More angles of the surgery
 
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rfromm01 said:
Lol every picture I posted in here is a before pic. I pretty much had no lips
Also how are the scars from the lip advancment?
 

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