We have some good threads on here on increasing bideltoid and frame maxing in the BOTB which should open up after around 500 reps or so, that you could incorporate into your training.
Good post. Other greys should admire this level of posting or just be a sideline commenterHey guys, I recently completed my end of year high school statistics project, or more specifically data
analysis. My topic for the project was the male physique and how it develops with age. I first thought
of this topic due to my experience doing grappling and MMA. What I noticed was the guys that were
say 18-21 looked very lanky and reedy despite exercising regularly and being in good shape, while the
older guys had much more robust builds and were much stronger. Even the mid-twenties guys weren't
as strong as the thirty somethings. This contradicts the scientific wisdom that humans reach
physical maturity at 18.
In order to do a statistical analysis of my topic, I used a data set of over 4000 male army service members.
This data set contained probably 40 different variables for example (Height, Weight, Age, Bicep circumference, base they are stationed at, etc.).
Basically there is a lot of interesting information.
Here are some of my findings.
The graph below shows the average shoulder width of servicemen (Bideltoid width) by Age (Measured in millimeters)
I could not go above age 45 because the sample sizes were too small to be reliable, but I think 45
years old was the peak for male shoulder width. Shoulder width is a great measurement of muscle
mass and bone structure, because most fat settles down in the abdominal region, so men who gain
weight without gaining muscle mass, find their shoulder width to be relatively unchanged. One factor
that caused the rapid jump in shoulder width between 18 and 25 is the continued growth
of the clavicular bone. The clavicle bone is the last "long" bone of the body to cease growth. It usually
continues to grow until 25, albeit at half the rate it did before 18. This was discovered because a lot of
guys would break their clavicle in their early twenties requiring screw fixation and doctors would
notice that every year the screws were further apart.
Overall the increase in shoulder width between 18-45 is about 2 inches. This may not seem like
much, but if you were 50th percentile in shoulder width at 18, by the time you were 45 you would
be 95th percentile, meaning you would be wider than 95 percent of the population.
Shoulder width (mm) vs Age (years)
Shown below is a picture of Mohamed Ali at 18 years old. Despite being in better shape than 99.9 percent of the population, his shoulders are puny looking.
A lankly looking Mohamed Ali at 18 years of age
The graph below shows the average wrist circumference of servicemen by age. Wrist circumference is a useful indicator of frame size because it is essentially a measurement of the thickness of your joints. Thicker joints equal a larger and stronger person.
As you can see in this graph, wrist circumference peaks at around 50 years of age. The data after 50 is cloudy, but once again there appears to be a slight slight decline as people generally begin to weaken after that.
I chose this measurement because I noticed that a lot of older guys have strong looking hands and wrists, while a lot of younger guys have wrists that look like toothpicks.
Wrist Circumference (Inches) vs Age (Years)
Shown below is a graph of the average bicep circumference of a serviceman by age.
As you can see the biceps thicken up quite a bit with age, especially between 18 and 25.
Most of this gain is muscle with a small amount being attributable to fat gain
The average increase in bicep circumference between 18 and 45 is 2 inches.
Biceps circumference (Inches) vs Age
Finally, as a bonus I compiled a table showing the average heights of servicemen based on the state they originate from.
The five states where the tallest service members originate from are: #1 North Dakota with an average height of 5 foot 11.45 inches,
#2 is Utah with an average height of 5 foot 11.1 inches,
#3 is Wisconsin at 5 foot 10.9 inches,
#4 is Arkansas with an average height of 5 foot 10.87 inches,
#5 is West Virginia at 5 foot 10.8 inches.
Some states were not included due to the sample size being too small
Average Height Of Servicemen by State Of Origin
Thanks for reading this guys,
Please let me know if there is anything else I can test.
Let me know if you have any anecdotes relating to the data.
I first posted this to reddit btw.
Here's the original: https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/14icqhv/statistics_project_regarding_the_army/
So what does this mean from a practical pov. Can we increase that rate of change via growth hormone?Hey guys, I recently completed my end of year high school statistics project, or more specifically data
analysis. My topic for the project was the male physique and how it develops with age. I first thought
of this topic due to my experience doing grappling and MMA. What I noticed was the guys that were
say 18-21 looked very lanky and reedy despite exercising regularly and being in good shape, while the
older guys had much more robust builds and were much stronger. Even the mid-twenties guys weren't
as strong as the thirty somethings. This contradicts the scientific wisdom that humans reach
physical maturity at 18.
In order to do a statistical analysis of my topic, I used a data set of over 4000 male army service members.
This data set contained probably 40 different variables for example (Height, Weight, Age, Bicep circumference, base they are stationed at, etc.).
Basically there is a lot of interesting information.
Here are some of my findings.
The graph below shows the average shoulder width of servicemen (Bideltoid width) by Age (Measured in millimeters)
I could not go above age 45 because the sample sizes were too small to be reliable, but I think 45
years old was the peak for male shoulder width. Shoulder width is a great measurement of muscle
mass and bone structure, because most fat settles down in the abdominal region, so men who gain
weight without gaining muscle mass, find their shoulder width to be relatively unchanged. One factor
that caused the rapid jump in shoulder width between 18 and 25 is the continued growth
of the clavicular bone. The clavicle bone is the last "long" bone of the body to cease growth. It usually
continues to grow until 25, albeit at half the rate it did before 18. This was discovered because a lot of
guys would break their clavicle in their early twenties requiring screw fixation and doctors would
notice that every year the screws were further apart.
Overall the increase in shoulder width between 18-45 is about 2 inches. This may not seem like
much, but if you were 50th percentile in shoulder width at 18, by the time you were 45 you would
be 95th percentile, meaning you would be wider than 95 percent of the population.
Shoulder width (mm) vs Age (years)
Shown below is a picture of Mohamed Ali at 18 years old. Despite being in better shape than 99.9 percent of the population, his shoulders are puny looking.
A lankly looking Mohamed Ali at 18 years of age
The graph below shows the average wrist circumference of servicemen by age. Wrist circumference is a useful indicator of frame size because it is essentially a measurement of the thickness of your joints. Thicker joints equal a larger and stronger person.
As you can see in this graph, wrist circumference peaks at around 50 years of age. The data after 50 is cloudy, but once again there appears to be a slight slight decline as people generally begin to weaken after that.
I chose this measurement because I noticed that a lot of older guys have strong looking hands and wrists, while a lot of younger guys have wrists that look like toothpicks.
Wrist Circumference (Inches) vs Age (Years)
Shown below is a graph of the average bicep circumference of a serviceman by age.
As you can see the biceps thicken up quite a bit with age, especially between 18 and 25.
Most of this gain is muscle with a small amount being attributable to fat gain
The average increase in bicep circumference between 18 and 45 is 2 inches.
Biceps circumference (Inches) vs Age
Finally, as a bonus I compiled a table showing the average heights of servicemen based on the state they originate from.
The five states where the tallest service members originate from are: #1 North Dakota with an average height of 5 foot 11.45 inches,
#2 is Utah with an average height of 5 foot 11.1 inches,
#3 is Wisconsin at 5 foot 10.9 inches,
#4 is Arkansas with an average height of 5 foot 10.87 inches,
#5 is West Virginia at 5 foot 10.8 inches.
Some states were not included due to the sample size being too small
Average Height Of Servicemen by State Of Origin
Thanks for reading this guys,
Please let me know if there is anything else I can test.
Let me know if you have any anecdotes relating to the data.
I first posted this to reddit btw.
Here's the original: https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/14icqhv/statistics_project_regarding_the_army/
100% bro.
Yeah whats with the one upvote jfl
A narrow jaw is way more connected to diet, breathing thought mouth and position of the fetus head than to testosterone
Eat more to speed up development. Mostly this post is to stop young men from roping, why would you rope when you haven't reached your peak strength. What a shame it would be to kill yourself before you reach peak masculinity.
Can you tag the threads or pm me?
Hey guys, I recently completed my end of year high school statistics project, or more specifically data
analysis. My topic for the project was the male physique and how it develops with age. I first thought
of this topic due to my experience doing grappling and MMA. What I noticed was the guys that were
say 18-21 looked very lanky and reedy despite exercising regularly and being in good shape, while the
older guys had much more robust builds and were much stronger. Even the mid-twenties guys weren't
as strong as the thirty somethings. This contradicts the scientific wisdom that humans reach
physical maturity at 18.
In order to do a statistical analysis of my topic, I used a data set of over 4000 male army service members.
This data set contained probably 40 different variables for example (Height, Weight, Age, Bicep circumference, base they are stationed at, etc.).
Basically there is a lot of interesting information.
Here are some of my findings.
The graph below shows the average shoulder width of servicemen (Bideltoid width) by Age (Measured in millimeters)
I could not go above age 45 because the sample sizes were too small to be reliable, but I think 45
years old was the peak for male shoulder width. Shoulder width is a great measurement of muscle
mass and bone structure, because most fat settles down in the abdominal region, so men who gain
weight without gaining muscle mass, find their shoulder width to be relatively unchanged. One factor
that caused the rapid jump in shoulder width between 18 and 25 is the continued growth
of the clavicular bone. The clavicle bone is the last "long" bone of the body to cease growth. It usually
continues to grow until 25, albeit at half the rate it did before 18. This was discovered because a lot of
guys would break their clavicle in their early twenties requiring screw fixation and doctors would
notice that every year the screws were further apart.
Overall the increase in shoulder width between 18-45 is about 2 inches. This may not seem like
much, but if you were 50th percentile in shoulder width at 18, by the time you were 45 you would
be 95th percentile, meaning you would be wider than 95 percent of the population.
Shoulder width (mm) vs Age (years)
Shown below is a picture of Mohamed Ali at 18 years old. Despite being in better shape than 99.9 percent of the population, his shoulders are puny looking.
A lankly looking Mohamed Ali at 18 years of age
The graph below shows the average wrist circumference of servicemen by age. Wrist circumference is a useful indicator of frame size because it is essentially a measurement of the thickness of your joints. Thicker joints equal a larger and stronger person.
As you can see in this graph, wrist circumference peaks at around 50 years of age. The data after 50 is cloudy, but once again there appears to be a slight slight decline as people generally begin to weaken after that.
I chose this measurement because I noticed that a lot of older guys have strong looking hands and wrists, while a lot of younger guys have wrists that look like toothpicks.
Wrist Circumference (Inches) vs Age (Years)
Shown below is a graph of the average bicep circumference of a serviceman by age.
As you can see the biceps thicken up quite a bit with age, especially between 18 and 25.
Most of this gain is muscle with a small amount being attributable to fat gain
The average increase in bicep circumference between 18 and 45 is 2 inches.
Biceps circumference (Inches) vs Age
Finally, as a bonus I compiled a table showing the average heights of servicemen based on the state they originate from.
The five states where the tallest service members originate from are: #1 North Dakota with an average height of 5 foot 11.45 inches,
#2 is Utah with an average height of 5 foot 11.1 inches,
#3 is Wisconsin at 5 foot 10.9 inches,
#4 is Arkansas with an average height of 5 foot 10.87 inches,
#5 is West Virginia at 5 foot 10.8 inches.
Some states were not included due to the sample size being too small
Average Height Of Servicemen by State Of Origin
Thanks for reading this guys,
Please let me know if there is anything else I can test.
Let me know if you have any anecdotes relating to the data.
I first posted this to reddit btw.
Here's the original: https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/14icqhv/statistics_project_regarding_the_army/
But aging… with the aging variable things get worse for men (balding, shit skin, looking old = over
That could have beend interesting but I will only look at this graph if they had indications of sample amount, first.Hey guys, I recently completed my end of year high school statistics project, or more specifically data
analysis. My topic for the project was the male physique and how it develops with age. I first thought
of this topic due to my experience doing grappling and MMA. What I noticed was the guys that were
say 18-21 looked very lanky and reedy despite exercising regularly and being in good shape, while the
older guys had much more robust builds and were much stronger. Even the mid-twenties guys weren't
as strong as the thirty somethings. This contradicts the scientific wisdom that humans reach
physical maturity at 18.
In order to do a statistical analysis of my topic, I used a data set of over 4000 male army service members.
This data set contained probably 40 different variables for example (Height, Weight, Age, Bicep circumference, base they are stationed at, etc.).
Basically there is a lot of interesting information.
Here are some of my findings.
The graph below shows the average shoulder width of servicemen (Bideltoid width) by Age (Measured in millimeters)
I could not go above age 45 because the sample sizes were too small to be reliable, but I think 45
years old was the peak for male shoulder width. Shoulder width is a great measurement of muscle
mass and bone structure, because most fat settles down in the abdominal region, so men who gain
weight without gaining muscle mass, find their shoulder width to be relatively unchanged. One factor
that caused the rapid jump in shoulder width between 18 and 25 is the continued growth
of the clavicular bone. The clavicle bone is the last "long" bone of the body to cease growth. It usually
continues to grow until 25, albeit at half the rate it did before 18. This was discovered because a lot of
guys would break their clavicle in their early twenties requiring screw fixation and doctors would
notice that every year the screws were further apart.
Overall the increase in shoulder width between 18-45 is about 2 inches. This may not seem like
much, but if you were 50th percentile in shoulder width at 18, by the time you were 45 you would
be 95th percentile, meaning you would be wider than 95 percent of the population.
Shoulder width (mm) vs Age (years)
Shown below is a picture of Mohamed Ali at 18 years old. Despite being in better shape than 99.9 percent of the population, his shoulders are puny looking.
A lankly looking Mohamed Ali at 18 years of age
The graph below shows the average wrist circumference of servicemen by age. Wrist circumference is a useful indicator of frame size because it is essentially a measurement of the thickness of your joints. Thicker joints equal a larger and stronger person.
As you can see in this graph, wrist circumference peaks at around 50 years of age. The data after 50 is cloudy, but once again there appears to be a slight slight decline as people generally begin to weaken after that.
I chose this measurement because I noticed that a lot of older guys have strong looking hands and wrists, while a lot of younger guys have wrists that look like toothpicks.
Wrist Circumference (Inches) vs Age (Years)
Shown below is a graph of the average bicep circumference of a serviceman by age.
As you can see the biceps thicken up quite a bit with age, especially between 18 and 25.
Most of this gain is muscle with a small amount being attributable to fat gain
The average increase in bicep circumference between 18 and 45 is 2 inches.
Biceps circumference (Inches) vs Age
Finally, as a bonus I compiled a table showing the average heights of servicemen based on the state they originate from.
The five states where the tallest service members originate from are: #1 North Dakota with an average height of 5 foot 11.45 inches,
#2 is Utah with an average height of 5 foot 11.1 inches,
#3 is Wisconsin at 5 foot 10.9 inches,
#4 is Arkansas with an average height of 5 foot 10.87 inches,
#5 is West Virginia at 5 foot 10.8 inches.
Some states were not included due to the sample size being too small
Average Height Of Servicemen by State Of Origin
Thanks for reading this guys,
Please let me know if there is anything else I can test.
Let me know if you have any anecdotes relating to the data.
I first posted this to reddit btw.
Here's the original: https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/14icqhv/statistics_project_regarding_the_army/
Send me your data sample
