I mean like bro this shouldn't even be a debate. He really said they ahve the same ang best ogee curve of all time vs some random gook.Comparing a bunch of ugly people does not help your case + white woman mogs him
He's the guy who ran away from the debateno point in arguing with a spastic like him JFL
Wide blocky skull vs superior narrow hunter eyed skull.
Jon is clearly way leaner because of his CWR and midface while that chink's midface is a true vertical. Hence he obviously wins bones wise jflmean like bro this shouldn't even be a debate. He really said they ahve the same ang best ogee curve of all time vs some random gook.
Jon isn't even narrow he has normal proportions, FWHR, IAA, JFA, still considered mesocephalic. On the otherhand gookoids like hao with their terrible 1.2 tfhwr are brachycphalic.
Legit braindead his JFA is 94° (ideal) your measurements r inaccurate because of head tilt lmao, also Jon is not allat and both r the approximately same level (Hao mogs) looking high class ≠ mog, Jon doesn't come close side by side let be fr here
Does that imply that Lucky Blue Smith is ugly, Jon and Sean tooComparing a bunch of ugly people does not help your case + white woman mogs him
He's the guy who ran away from the debate
? R you straight up retard because if Hao is like a htn at best then Jon and Sean would be considered mtn jfl, horrible rating
Cope his jaw is clearly flat which is why it's closer to 105 degrees. U keep using some blurry pic to measure it for some reason.
The pic I used before wasn't the best I will admit wasn't trying to waste my time finding a pic as this argument in itself is stupid, it varys but's much more ideal/closer to 90 degrees then hao.
Make a mog battle with these pics and let's see who wins then.
My blurry pic it's literally from fucking 6 feet away, literally accurate down to mm,all the pic you uses r either completely shit lighting or it's head tilt jfl
Keep coping there was barely any "head tilt" in these pics lmao and my pics are 10 times more visible lighting than urs dumbass the pic u used is barely even visible
. I also measured it multiple times and got the same values at around 105. Even if Hao did have 94 degree jfa it's not better than jon if anything it's slightly worse and that doesn't stop him from having a worse fwhr, esr, mouth to nose, eyebrow setness, ct, pfl to bizygo, eye aspect ratio, and overall harmony. His misc, angularity, misc, and dimo is significantly worse as well.
It's clearly unideal and blocky.
It is impossible to have a blocky head like this and expect an Ideal JFA.
Who said Jon and sean are ugly?Does that imply that Lucky Blue Smith is ugly, Jon and Sean too
"Not Brachycephalic"
Chang:
Okay we'll make another thread I hope you care about the results this time.
Keep coping there was barely any "head tilt" in these pics lmao and my pics are 10 times more visible lighting than urs dumbass the pic u used is barely even visible
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Wont respond again u clearly live in some fantasy land lmfao unless u post the mog battle but jon will obliterate so ik u wont.
Keep coping there was barely any "head tilt" in these pics lmao and my pics are 10 times more visible lighting than urs dumbass the pic u used is barely even visible
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Wont respond again u clearly live in some fantasy land lmfao unless u post the mog battle but jon will obliterate so ik u wont.
who said hes mtn?
Ideal eyebrows set for Asian, I can even find more with even lower set but whateverIt's clearly unideal and blocky.
It is impossible to have a blocky head like this and expect an Ideal JFA.
Who said Jon and sean are ugly?
Stop using this shitty transtitive reasoning. You don't even explain why he's "JFA MOG" and in the other discussion you said "JFA" mog when you insinuate his jaw is wider than matias, hence the block asian brachycephaly phenotype
"Not Brachycephalic"
"Decides to hide occiput, but shows flat midface"
Plus, a TFHWR of 1.2 is clearly a brachy pheno. When Ideal is 1.4-1.45, 1.2 is barely T1.
And you show a sied profile, irrelevant to TFHWR.
Chang:
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Okay we'll make another thread I hope you care about the results this time.
Nobody says Hao other than @EuphoricAsianNormie who says he height mogs and frame mogs, which are objective ratings and useless to the argument. He admits sean face mogs though.
U want caveman browridge or something? Anyways he have ideal brow ridge
"For an asian" is not an excuse? This is a crucial feature JFL stop being subjective I always knew you couldnt approach this logically
Literally 1 eye higher than ideal?I
Ideal eyebrows set for Asian, I can even find more with even lower set but whatever
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Is this supposed to be eyebrows setness of doom?
It's clearly unideal and blocky.
It is impossible to have a blocky head like this and expect an Ideal JFA.
Who said Jon and sean are ugly?
Stop using this shitty transtitive reasoning. You don't even explain why he's "JFA MOG" and in the other discussion you said "JFA" mog when you insinuate his jaw is wider than matias, hence the block asian brachycephaly phenotype
"Not Brachycephalic"
"Decides to hide occiput, but shows flat midface"
Plus, a TFHWR of 1.2 is clearly a brachy pheno. When Ideal is 1.4-1.45, 1.2 is barely T1.
And you show a sied profile, irrelevant to TFHWR.
Chang:
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Okay we'll make another thread I hope you care about the results this time.
Nobody says Hao other than @EuphoricAsianNormie who says he height mogs and frame mogs, which are objective ratings and useless to the argument. He admits sean face mogs though.
Clearly you're too stupid to understand the brachycephaly stands for cephalic index and pheno, not deformational
Lmao just squint theory"For an asian" is not an excuse? This is a crucial feature JFL stop being subjective I always knew you couldnt approach this logically
Literally 1 eye higher than ideal?
There is no strikingness in his eyebrows, Ideal is lower than 0.5 and extends till 0
Cope it's 86-90
That's just wrong lmao do u not know the measure? @ICL I think this guy measured jon instead of hao
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Hao canthal tilt is too high at 10 degrees his eyes are slanted which make his eye area even more shitty than it already is with monolid, smaller pfl, and rounded eye shape.better ct, nigga ain't fooling anyone jfl
Or maybe ur just wrong?Also I really told you that the thread is useless because people here r literally white supremacists
Yes because your ching chong "chang" is already a squint machine born squinted. He literally bulges his eyes probably so it doesnt look like a coinslot
I can't broAlso I really told you that the thread is useless because people here r literally white supremacists
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Also it's literally JUST the hat, I'm not lying dipshit
White model when they squint like an autist: "mirin orbital saar"
nice double standard retard
I just have to respond cuz ur straight up lying
Cope it's 86-90
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That's just wrong lmao do u not know the measure? @ICL I think this guy measured jon instead of hao
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Hao canthal tilt is too high at 10 degrees his eyes are slanted which make his eye area even more shitty than it already is with monolid, smaller pfl, and rounded eye shape.
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Jon's canthal tilt is more ideal and aesthetic
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Also jons mogs in ang, dimo, and misc easily just stop this cope already.
Or maybe ur just wrong?
U keep using this same distored pic of jon which if why is jfa and fwhr is unideal. I measured them correctly previously.
A lot better than Hao.
He mogs in angularity because he actually has hollow cheeks lmfao.
He is much more dimorphic due to his eyebrow setness/thickness, facial hair,taller chin, and nasofrontal angle,
Nigga be like: omg squinting no no fraud!1!!1
Eyebrows and facial hair r miscs dipshit, they have the same eyebrows setness, just because Jon squinting a lot doesn't mean he have better Eyebrows setness lmao. Also that guy doesn't have a taller chin, maybe better nasofrontal angle is the only thing I agree to
Also his chin its a bit too tall because he's slightly downgrown lmao
Pushing 40 fym not that old nigga
.It's a candid pic of him with not a single wrinkle
2 FWHR my ass it's literally 1.81 in this pic
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Distorted pic of jon I already showed him having better fwhr in non distorted pics. U also botched the measurement the arrow clearly goes past hao's cheek bone. This pic is too blurry to be measured with every single other pic his fwhr is much worse.
They are also dimorphic traits idiot. Notice how the more dimorphic male has thicker eyebrows?
Nope Jon's eyebrows are lower set and obliterates the cyclops in every metric.
So u are just blind? Idk what to tell u atp
His side is shit but his front mogs hao to oblivion so I don't see why it matters much. Just post the mog battle already I might just do it atp he already lost to sean
. Kortajarena also mogs maher from the front.
It was an exaggeration but that's not 1.81 my niggaPushing 40 fym not that old nigga
It's a candid pic of him with not a single wrinkle
2 FWHR my ass it's literally 1.81 in this pic
fwhr goes up to the glabella aka around the middle brow.
. Im sorry but east asian phenos rarely ever have ideal fwhr due to there eyebrow setness. Discussion over.
Pushing 40 fym not that old nigga
It's a candid pic of him with not a single wrinkle
2 FWHR my ass it's literally 1.81 in this pic
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Distorted pic of jon I already showed him having better fwhr in non distorted pics. U also botched the measurement the arrow clearly goes past hao's cheek bone. This pic is too blurry to be measured with every single other pic his fwhr is much worse.
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They are also dimorphic traits idiot. Notice how the more dimorphic male has thicker eyebrows?
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Nope Jon's eyebrows are lower set and obliterates the cyclops in every metric.
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So u are just blind? Idk what to tell u atp
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His side is shit but his front mogs hao to oblivion so I don't see why it matters much. Just post the mog battle already I might just do it atp he already lost to sean
Ever heard of lenses distortion nigga?, or r you think they don't change ratio?fwhr goes up to the glabella aka around the middle brow.
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His in this pic is no more than 1.85 and as u said he's squinting so it would normally be even lower
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I genuinely don't think u could have a found a worse pic to measure with wtf
It is an extreme difference better eyebrows, eye color, eyelashes, canthal tilt, and eye shape.
This applies to u lol I have been measuring multiple different pics of them.
Pushing 40 fym not that old nigga
It's a candid pic of him with not a single wrinkle
2 FWHR my ass it's literally 1.81 in this pic
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Distorted pic of jon I already showed him having better fwhr in non distorted pics. U also botched the measurement the arrow clearly goes past hao's cheek bone. This pic is too blurry to be measured with every single other pic his fwhr is much worse.
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They are also dimorphic traits idiot. Notice how the more dimorphic male has thicker eyebrows?
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Nope Jon's eyebrows are lower set and obliterates the cyclops in every metric.
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So u are just blind? Idk what to tell u atp
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His side is shit but his front mogs hao to oblivion so I don't see why it matters much. Just post the mog battle already I might just do it atp he already lost to sean
I genuinely don't think u could have a found a worse pic to measure with wtf
It is an extreme difference better eyebrows, eye color, eyelashes, canthal tilt, and eye shape.
This applies to u lol I have been measuring multiple different pics of them.
Jon easily averages 1.9+ in non len distorted pics
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Hao is max 1.85 while squinting expect some random blurry photo which u incorrectly measured
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Just stop this bro and admit he mogs. @ICL im losing brain cells arguing with this guy.
still has an ethinc tax
Just talked about this in my other reply his fwhr is not that high
.Just lying to urself lmao. He has the best eyebrows of all time probably.
Thick eyebrows are more dimorphic as seen in the chart if it wasn't it would have stayed the same in thickness lmao. Men have thicker eyebrows than women on averagewhich is why it's dimorphic
I will just post a mog battle
Slightly off still 1.9+ which is ideal
He is squinting here in the black and white photo and u didn't go high enough
I got higher in multiple other pics ur just autistic and keep cherry picking photos where jon is unideal and hao is ideal. The pics I use are much more clear in quality.
Just worse facial aesthetics not even ethnic tax
Classic mog by Jon.
Classic mog by Jon.
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I have never seen this man in my lifeWhite model when they squint like an autist: "mirin orbital saar"
Are you fucking stupidWhite model when they squint like an autist: "mirin orbital saar"
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Asian model when they barely squint: "already a squint machine born squinted. He literally bulges his eyes probably so it doesnt look like a coinslot"
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You can't fraud bones my nigga, maybe wake up.
he needs to bulge his eyes to leverage PFH
I can't believe my eyes bro, you're his puppet just jflClassic mog by Jon.
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I just decided to use one of the pictures you used in the ORIGINAL thread
JFL I'm not good at putting landmarks but we can clearly see his FWHR is not even close to 2 unless we use your example where he's a trillion meters away, with jon being closer.
Besides, a 0.06 difference in FWHR is miniscule and redundant.
Jon has the BEST Ogee curve in the entire GAME, his angularity is unmatched. But then we got bloatcel fatcel here...
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+ He mogs in eyebrows and eye area. He just mogged hao in 2 of the most important metrics, while mogging JFA, lower third height, and Total skull height.
Hao having an FWHR approaching of 2 would insinuate his ESR is too close set or his midface is too compact, if his eyebrow setness is not ideal.
Sorry brah, glabella measurements are brutal
Nice ad hominen
yet I used an obviously shitty pic with him and if you really think he mogs in that picture, you'd post it, which you did
LOL maybe going from T1 to T1.25
1.91-1.97 is massive difference, talking about some 0.07 is not that different??, 0.15 diff is already dead tier diff stop lying.Classic mog by Jon.
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I just decided to use one of the pictures you used in the ORIGINAL thread
JFL I'm not good at putting landmarks but we can clearly see his FWHR is not even close to 2 unless we use your example where he's a trillion meters away, with jon being closer.
Besides, a 0.06 difference in FWHR is miniscule and redundant.
Jon has the BEST Ogee curve in the entire GAME, his angularity is unmatched. But then we got bloatcel fatcel here...
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+ He mogs in eyebrows and eye area. He just mogged hao in 2 of the most important metrics, while mogging JFA, lower third height, and Total skull height.
Hao having an FWHR approaching of 2 would insinuate his ESR is too close set or his midface is too compact, if his eyebrow setness is not ideal.
Sorry brah, glabella measurements are brutal
He mog in that pic because of his robust features and aesthetic, not because of raw measurements dipshit, how is this relevant bro??Nice ad hominen
yet I used an obviously shitty pic with him and if you really think he mogs in that picture, you'd post it, which you did
LOL maybe going from T1 to T1.25
I have never seen this man in my life
Are you fucking stupid
I meant he's born with squintmachine coinslot eyes
That is literally how molids work
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Thanks for an image where I can measure his face width
