DHT GEL: THE ULTIMATE PUBERTYMAXING TOOL (youngcels gtfih)

[Leopold_]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

 

[lestoa]

hazdgzhasgbhuahsuahhahahahahahhahahahahha

 

[lestoa]

Masteron

hilarious bro hilarious

tell me more

 

[pjmm]

Good thread

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Will read but

Masteron

reduce competition theory

 

[Zagro]

What about aging

 

[iblamemandible7]

Yes dht is life! Make sure to apply the gel to your scalp and face too to max out jaw growth and get hunter eyes!

 

[Jonas2k7]

Will read but


reduce competition theory

Its not worth it, gptmaxxed essay about DHT gel (useless)

 

[copercel123]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

why everyone suddenly remembering DHT didn’t we already proved its shit

 

[halloweed]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

Not really bro

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….

Nope, penis, scrotum, prostate, skin and body hair.
You’re on about testosterone and GH.

• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.

Growing facial hair + shit skin texture ≠ not looking masculine

Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.

See how all of these cases are abnormal and don’t relate to the average male here?
We don’t have micro penis.
We are not FTM.
We have most likely gone through or are going through development normally.

The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

Bro all of this is pure speculation, applying a cream will NOT grow your bones.

 

[jeff1234]

why everyone suddenly remembering DHT didn’t we already proved its shit

fr

 

[Leopold_]

Its not worth it, gptmaxxed essay about DHT gel (useless)

Run it through a AI checker, it's all my writing

 

[Leopold_]

Not really bro

how can you say this isn't true: pubertymaxing = heightmaxing + androgenmaxing, along with gym and softmaxes

Nope, penis, scrotum, prostate, skin and body hair.
You’re on about testosterone and GH.

You’re right that DHT’s clinically proven targets include external genitalia and skin structures, but that doesn’t mean facial bones are unaffected at all bro.
DHT binds to androgen receptors (ARs), which exist in craniofacial bone periosteum, sebaceous glands, and laryngeal cartilage.
Facial bones respond to androgens during puberty — this is well-documented in endocrinology.

Growing facial hair + shit skin texture ≠ not looking masculine

Facial hair growth is a marker of androgen sensitivity. It's not the cause of masculinity, but it's a correlated indicator that we're looking for. it means it's working. About the skin: I can't argue with this. A good skincare regimen will be critical while on dht gel

See how all of these cases are abnormal and don’t relate to the average male here?
We don’t have micro penis.
We are not FTM.
We have most likely gone through or are going through development normally.

I see your point, but the problem is that we can’t ethically run a study injecting or applying DHT on healthy teens to see how masculine they get. So we’re left with proxy data. It's not identical, but it doesn't invalidate the mechanism of action of topics DHT.
These cases prove that (1) topical DHT is bioavailable, (2) it causes local tissue growth, and (3) it can act on AR-dense tissues during puberty. We can use that biology as a theoretical framework while applying it strategically and locally to facial bones, and the voice box. This stuff has insane potential.

 

[superpsycho]

dnr

 

[superpsycho]

repped for effort

 

[Leopold_]

hazdgzhasgbhuahsuahhahahahahahhahahahahha

hilarious bro hilarious

tell me more

Will read but


reduce competition theory

Just to clarify, I never suggested Masteron as part of a pubertymaxing protocol. I only mentioned it as a post-puberty option. At that point, Masteron becomes a legitimate compound for its many androgenic and muscle building benefits ; not saying it comes without risks like hairloss or careful consideration. I was just trying to map out options for different phases, (puberty vs. post-puberty) but this is a topic for another thread.

 

[Leopold_]

Yes dht is life! Make sure to apply the gel to your scalp and face too to max out jaw growth and get hunter eyes!

respectfully shut the fuck up

 

[Leopold_]

why everyone suddenly remembering DHT didn’t we already proved its shit

could you give any evidence that DHT is not important? I will instantly prove you wrong

 

[übermog]

i didnt fully understand, why not use dht such as anavar?

 

[Leopold_]

i didnt fully understand, why not use dht such as anavar?

We’re trying to selectively activate androgen receptors in facial bone regions, the larynx, and other dimorphic areas, without triggering systemic suppression or premature growth plate fusion. Only topical DHT gives us that kind of localized, high-affinity effect — Anavar doesn’t do that, and it isn’t designed to: it's mildly anabolic, weakly androgenic, and suppresses your natural T.

 

[übermog]

We’re trying to selectively activate androgen receptors in facial bone regions, the larynx, and other dimorphic areas, without triggering systemic suppression or premature growth plate fusion. Only topical DHT gives us that kind of localized, high-affinity effect — Anavar doesn’t do that, and it isn’t designed to: it's mildly anabolic, weakly androgenic, and suppresses your natural T.

but no dht triggers growth plate closure and the side effects of suppression can be mitigated to such an extend that they basically dont matter or what am i missing and if anavar is androgeniic enough (which is also wrong those stuppid numbers dont mean nothing) then just do npp?

 

[Leopold_]

but no dht triggers growth plate closure and the side effects of suppression can be mitigated to such an extend that they basically dont matter or what am i missing and if anavar is androgeniic enough (which is also wrong those stuppid numbers dont mean nothing) then just do npp?

DHT does not cause growth plate closure at all. It causes bone maturation, which is a completely different process. Bone maturation = thickening and strengthening of the bone. Growth plate closure is when the cartilage in the growth plates ossifies into bones. Ossification is solely driven by estrogen. The gray area between them is that maturation of the bones will likely accelerate the closure process once estrogen is no longer suppressed, because the body will detect more mature bones and think that it has reached adulthood. This is way sticking to the AI is key.

 

[Leopold_]

can anyone prove me wrong? everyone should be using this stuff if they are at the right age, given that they are already using HGH + AI, and that they are monitoring the risks of acne, and potentially hairloss if very genetically prone.

 

[Leopold_]

@20/04/2008

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Masteron becomes a legitimate compound for its many androgenic and muscle building benefits

No. There is 0 circumstance where running masteron is a good idea. DHT derivatives aren’t the same as DHT, they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. I’ve said it before.

It’s literally poison in a vial. It will nuke your skin and hair with quite literally 0 benefits apart from making you look more dry temporarily. It’s a looksmin, and there’s no debate about it. Countless have run it with great regrets.

Same can be said for most DHT derivatives.

I wouldn’t recommend your advice to anyone, and after you try for yourself you will realise that it is a brutal looksmin, and your “looksmaxing” will be trying to reverse the effects you have brought on yourself like @halloweed

If you want to look androgenic, forget about piss weak DHT, and run compounds that are way more androgenic and anabolic at the same time.

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

Youll need test or some shit that aromatize or else you’ll fucking die

 

[Leopold_]

Youll need test or some shit that aromatize or else you’ll fucking die

why would we ever want something that aromatizes during puberty? that goes against everything about heightmaxing. We should only use DHT derivatives, if anything, during puberty.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

why would we ever want something that aromatizes during puberty? that goes against everything about heightmaxing. We should only use DHT derivatives, if anything, during puberty.

Just JFL @ this also.

 

[Deleted member 77820]

why would we ever want something that aromatizes during puberty? that goes against everything about heightmaxing. We should only use DHT derivatives, if anything, during puberty.

@TitusA yeah bro use Dht Gel as a base , letrozole , Winstrol and don’t forget the 18 iu of Hgh

 

[Deleted member 77820]

No. There is 0 circumstance where running masteron is a good idea. DHT derivatives aren’t the same as DHT, they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. I’ve said it before.

It’s literally poison in a vial. It will nuke your skin and hair with quite literally 0 benefits apart from making you look more dry temporarily. It’s a looksmin, and there’s no debate about it. Countless have run it with great regrets.

Same can be said for most DHT derivatives.

I wouldn’t recommend your advice to anyone, and after you try for yourself you will realise that it is a brutal looksmin, and your “looksmaxing” will be trying to reverse the effects you have brought on yourself like @halloweed

If you want to look androgenic, forget about piss weak DHT, and run compounds that are way more androgenic and anabolic at the same time.

@halloweed stop spreading my message now everyone talk about it

 

[chadisbeingmade]

@halloweed stop spreading my message now everyone talk about it

What are you talking about "Your message" JFL.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Will read but


reduce competition theory

What's wrong with mast?

 

[Leopold_]

No. There is 0 circumstance where running masteron is a good idea. DHT derivatives aren’t the same as DHT, they are chemically similar to DHT but are not the same and do not confer the same effects or androgenicity that DHT does. I’ve said it before.

It’s literally poison in a vial. It will nuke your skin and hair with quite literally 0 benefits apart from making you look more dry temporarily. It’s a looksmin, and there’s no debate about it. Countless have run it with great regrets.

Same can be said for most DHT derivatives.

I wouldn’t recommend your advice to anyone, and after you try for yourself you will realise that it is a brutal looksmin, and your “looksmaxing” will be trying to reverse the effects you have brought on yourself like @halloweed

If you want to look androgenic, forget about piss weak DHT, and run compounds that are way more androgenic and anabolic at the same time.

I maintain that Masteron has its place when used at a low dose after development. A lot of people have reacted extremely well to it too. Regardless, this isn't the point of the thread. We're discussing targeted and localized application of DHT gel, which has evidence supporting its effectiveness.

 

[Leopold_]

Just JFL @ this also.

Care to explain? I don't see how running anything that aromatizes during puberty would be a good idea.

 

[Leopold_]

@TitusA yeah bro use Dht Gel as a base , letrozole , Winstrol and don’t forget the 18 iu of Hgh

targeted application of DHT cream on the cheekbones, jawline, chin, and Adam's apple, as well as 6-8 IU of HGH and Arimidex. extremely little risk systemic DHT absorption.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Care to explain? I don't see how running anything that aromatizes during puberty would be a good idea.

How old are you?
Someone with a Wikipedia tier understanding of pharmacology & endocrinology would be able to answer that.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Its not worth it, gptmaxxed essay about DHT gel (useless)

You were correct.
Wikipedia tier knowledge.

 

[BonesmashFinalBoss]

@TitusA yeah bro use Dht Gel as a base , letrozole , Winstrol and don’t forget the 18 iu of Hgh

is this serious?

 

[BonesmashFinalBoss]

How old are you?
Someone with a Wikipedia tier understanding of pharmacology & endocrinology would be able to answer that.

i asked chatgpt even he can't answer your retarded ass

 

[chadisbeingmade]

i asked chatgpt even he can't answer your retarded ass

Holy fuck you are a retard as well.

 

[Leopold_]

You were correct.
Wikipedia tier knowledge.

I wrote all of this myself. I you want to know how I did my research, I used a premium ChatGPT feature called "deep research," that looks through dozens and dozens of reliable sources and comes back with a 20 page report about any topic. I linked it below if you want to read it. I wrote the post by hand after reading the thread and the sources that it cited.

Topical DHT - Deep Research

Topical DHT Gel for Pubertal Facial Masculinization: Feasibility and Safety Mechanism of Action of Topical DHT Gel Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and Androgen Receptors: DHT is a potent natural androgen (about 3–5× more potent than testosterone at the androgen receptor) . It binds directly to androgen...

docs.google.com

 

[Leopold_]

How old are you?
Someone with a Wikipedia tier understanding of pharmacology & endocrinology would be able to answer that.

Please, explain yourself. Why would we run anything that aromatizes? my bone age is 15.5

 

[slaters]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

Dht gel on cock sure why not

Dht gel on face for bonemass please kill yourself

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

high iq potentially good thread. My norwood genes are brutal though

 

[Deleted member 77820]

What are you talking about "Your message" JFL.

Everyone suddenly don’t like masteron anymore hmm i wonder who talked about this

 

[Leopold_]

@chadisbeingmade , what do you think?

 

[Leopold_]

Dht gel on cock sure why not

Dht gel on face for bonemass please kill yourself

Explain yourself with arguments. I have provided evidence for how DHT gel could be extremely effective. This stuff legitimately has a ton of potential.

 

[slaters]

Explain yourself with arguments. I have provided evidence for how DHT gel could be extremely effective. This stuff legitimately has a ton of potential.

Telling u to kys was harsh

But if your applying it long enough to grow bone it will go systemic to the point of suppressing your natural testosterone, where you then have to introduce testosterone & HCG

Can potentially rape your skin

But after I lab test this dht powder I honestly might experiment by putting dht gel on my clavicles when I hop on cycle

 

[iblamemandible7]

respectfully shut the fuck up

Whats wrong? Dont you want to look like saint hamudi? Hes a high dht male!

 

[Leopold_]

Telling u to kys was harsh

But if your applying it long enough to grow bone it will go systemic to the point of suppressing your natural testosterone, where you then have to introduce testosterone & HCG

Can potentially rape your skin

But after I lab test this dht powder I honestly might experiment by putting dht gel on my clavicles when I hop on cycle

Lol, so you understand the potential of DHT gel for locally growing bones.applying on the clavicles could work because they have lots of androgen receptors, but you shouldn't expect any lengthening; perhaps only thickening or masculinizing. that's what DHT does.

About suppressing my natural testosterone, there are 2 main things that you need to understand:

1) in studies of older men using 50mg/day long term, and applying it on large areas like forearms and shoulders, their T was suppressed by 40-50%. In our case, we will use much lower doses, of 10-20mg DHT, and the application will be small. This should significantly reduce all T suppression.

2) the second thing you should understand, that may sound weird at first, is that T suppression is actually not a big deal at all, and may make us grow taller. For context, I am: using HGH to drive bone and tissue growth, using an Arimidex to block estrogen and reduce GP fusion, and taking low-dose Proviron, which may slightly suppress T but compensates with high AR activation systemically.
So within this context, if my T drops, I won't lose height gains (rather help preserve height with less aromatization), I won't lose masculinity (because DHT itself is doing the androgen work), and I won't need to run a full PCT because of the low and controlled dosages, allowing my body to easily recover naturally.