DHT GEL: THE ULTIMATE PUBERTYMAXING TOOL (youngcels gtfih)

[Deleted member 115373]

theres more to it

can you actually explain why you think low SHBG is a bad thing? look it up. do one minute of research instead of talking out of your ass.

 

[übermog]

can you actually explain why you think low SHBG is a bad thing? look it up. do one minute of research instead of talking out of your ass.

shbg increases androgen receptor sensitivity, shbg transports androgens to the various places of the body, if you dont have shbg, all your androgens, natty or injected will be eliminated a few hours after production, with shbg those androgens remain in the body for later use, you want high shbg, what really matters is androgen receptor sensitivity

 

[übermog]

DHT activity in the skin = more oiliness and more acne risks

wrong, firstly oily skin isnt acne, oily skin is healthy or rather fatty and not oily since animals produce fat and not oil, secondly the fat excreted by the skin is there to cleanse the pores so how could that clog them? its the seed oils injected which need to be detoxed + the disrupted hormone balance

 

[Deleted member 115373]

shbg increases androgen receptor sensitivity, shbg transports androgens to the various places of the body, if you dont have shbg, all your androgens, natty or injected will be eliminated a few hours after production, with shbg those androgens remain in the body for later use, you want high shbg, what really matters is androgen receptor sensitivity

thank you for bringing this up, @übermog , I did more research into SHBG. this is what I found:

what you're right about:
- SHBG is not all bad, it transports T and DHT throughout the body, stabilizes hormone levels by extending half-life, and some studies suggest that SHBG may sensitize androgen receptors, but only the liver and the brain.
- You don't want your SHBG to be too low, because it can lead to faster androgen clearance (especially T, which is less important for our goals, but also DHT to some extent)). Very low SHBG also leads to less "hormonal stability" and more "fluctuations".

what you're wrong about:
- you definitely don't want high SHBG. It binds to T and DHT and will lower both of those hormones in your body, which is counterproductive for our goals. Androgens cannot activate the androgen receptor if they are already bounded to SHBG. High SHBG also means your T is less bioavailable, so even if it's in a good range on paper it will be less effective.
- Androgen clearance from low SHBG is not in issue in our stack. Since we are taking exogenous androgens, we're not relying on our natural hormones and therefore low SHBG is not a concern for lack of androgen activity.

Hope this helps, and you're welcome to continue asking more questions.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

For now, no one has been able to disprove the effectiveness of my proposed pubertymaxing stack

 

[slaters]

For now, no one has been able to disprove the effectiveness of my proposed pubertymaxing stack

Would proviron help with the bloat from hgh ?
I seen a lot of dht derivatives used to dry out the body in bodybuilders

 

[theonlyrealrage]

nuking it, but using Arimidex, not Aromasin. it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier so much less risks. Also working with a real endocrinologist, and 1mg/day is what I've been prescribed.

Blood brain barrier?

 

[theonlyrealrage]

I'm doing proviron for systemic, and dht gel for local. Dht gel mostly goes systemic if applied to large surface areas like the forearms for example. A ton of systemic absorption can be minimized by startegically placing small amounts in areas with high levels of ARs. Cream formulations of topical DHT can minimize systemic absorption even further. Also, as I said earlier, if following my full puberty protocol, T suppression is not a bad thing anyway.

Came to the same conclusion really, probably will stack with proviron too and some test e

 

[Deleted member 115373]

I wouldn't do test if you're still growing, you don't actually want high T bc more will be converted to an estrogen. even if you have an AI its very much counterproductive, and the exogenous androgens will give you all of the masculinization that you will need. Do not focus on anabolic enhancements until after puberty.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

@übermog

 

[idkmanimao]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

5x more

 

[Deleted member 115373]

5x more

what do you need bhai

 

[idkmanimao]

hekl

what do you need bhai

p me ascend

 

[Orc]

dht cream is difficult to source, don't get your hopes up.

it's also complicated to make yourself, mainly because the raws are just as hard to source.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

dht cream is difficult to source, don't get your hopes up.

it's also complicated to make yourself, mainly because the raws are just as hard to source.

@Orc what do you think of alpha gels or the diktator DHT cream? This thread was more about explaining the potential of this sort of protocol rather than discussing sourcing

 

[Orc]

@Orc what do you think of alpha gels or the diktator DHT cream? This thread was more about explaining the potential of this sort of protocol rather than discussing sourcing

50/50 chance of being scammed.

protocol is useless if you can't source it.

 

[übermog]

@übermog

what should i reply to?

 

[Deleted member 115373]

what should i reply to?

do you agree with this? do you agree with my proposed stack?

thank you for bringing this up, @übermog , I did more research into SHBG. this is what I found:

what you're right about:
- SHBG is not all bad, it transports T and DHT throughout the body, stabilizes hormone levels by extending half-life, and some studies suggest that SHBG may sensitize androgen receptors, but only the liver and the brain.
- You don't want your SHBG to be too low, because it can lead to faster androgen clearance (especially T, which is less important for our goals, but also DHT to some extent)). Very low SHBG also leads to less "hormonal stability" and more "fluctuations".

what you're wrong about:
- you definitely don't want high SHBG. It binds to T and DHT and will lower both of those hormones in your body, which is counterproductive for our goals. Androgens cannot activate the androgen receptor if they are already bounded to SHBG. High SHBG also means your T is less bioavailable, so even if it's in a good range on paper it will be less effective.
- Androgen clearance from low SHBG is not in issue in our stack. Since we are taking exogenous androgens, we're not relying on our natural hormones and therefore low SHBG is not a concern for lack of androgen activity.

Hope this helps, and you're welcome to continue asking more questions.

 

[übermog]

do you agree with this? do you agree with my proposed stack?

dht gel is surely worth adding to a stack but good luck sourcing this shit, local application theory is bs, also dht gel solo is bs, but adding to a stack is good

 

[Deleted member 115373]

dht gel is surely worth adding to a stack but good luck sourcing this shit, local application theory is bs, also dht gel solo is bs, but adding to a stack is good

glad u see the potential. but explain why local application is BS? we're literally using small, controlled amounts in places with high concentrations of ARs. It will obviously target those specific places, that's the entire point of topical application. You can't avoid some systemic absorption, but it very likely will be minimal, and tons of analogous evidence point toward topical DHT being able to grow AR sensitive tissues locally, as I mentioned in the original post.

 

[übermog]

glad u see the potential. but explain why local application is BS? we're literally using small, controlled amounts in places with high concentrations of ARs. It will obviously target those specific places, that's the entire point of topical application. You can't avoid some systemic absorption, but it very likely will be minimal, and tons of analogous evidence point toward topical DHT being able to grow AR sensitive tissues locally, as I mentioned in the original post.

local will absorb systemicaaly and you want systemic androgens, theres more than chind and brow ridge

 

[Sebastian_10]

Do you know a Source?

Does anyone know a Source?

 

[shanevasily]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez@Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

Insanely high iq thread. I have always wanted to simultaneously maximise my height and dimorphism. Most people on here recommend test. But I’m worried test might aromatise and close my growth plates faster.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

Insanely high iq thread. I have always wanted to simultaneously maximise my height and dimorphism. Most people on here recommend test. But I’m worried test might aromatise and close my growth plates faster.

you understand

 

[shanevasily]

you understand

Yeah but does this work tho especially for bone mass ? Have u tried this

 

[testosterone36]

yes, I use 1mg arimidex daily. it will reduce your estrogen by 80-90%.



pm me if you actually start

can this cause bone loss

 

[DTMHando]

Will read but


reduce competition theory

What do you mean?

 

[mxsonn]

where do you get dht gel from?

 

[halo500]

Dogshit thread, op should rope for so much retardness

 

[isahi]

where do you get dht gel from?

Did u find out

 

[Hernan]

dht cream is difficult to source, don't get your hopes up.

it's also complicated to make yourself, mainly because the raws are just as hard to source.

hey orcie do you pls have a source for dht cream for me??

 

[Orc]

hey orcie do you pls have a source for dht cream for me??

go on meso rx and search for stanolone

 

[Hernan]

go on meso rx and search for stanolone

oohhh thanks for the new link orcie i love you but on the site its tablets and injectables. wb topical?