DHT importance

[jasonbandz]

Is DHT actually important after the age of 20? Can someone provide actually evidence to prove or disprove it

 

[GreekGenes]

I guess your asking this over your fear over starting finasteride or dutasteride

no one here can guarantee you that the medication you take will have no side effects.

The science basically says this: After puberty DHT takes a negligible role and can be suppressed in most men without side effects. however some men DO react negatively to DHT suppression.

If you want "evidence" use google scholar and read through studies and medical literature

 

[sam12344343]

I guess your asking this over your fear over starting finasteride or dutasteride

no one here can guarantee you that the medication you take will have no side effects.

The science basically says this: After puberty DHT takes a negligible role and can be suppressed in most men without side effects. however some men DO react negatively to DHT suppression.

If you want "evidence" use google scholar and read through studies and medical literature

At what age do you suggest starting Finasteride?

 

[GreekGenes]

At what age do you suggest starting Finasteride?

It should be started at the earliest signs of balding after the age of 18

Until then minoxidil is a safe option to buy time, although it will not stop the progression of the hair loss.

 

[sam12344343]

It should be started at the earliest signs of balding after the age of 18

Until then minoxidil is a safe option to buy time, although it will not stop the progression of the hair loss.

I've heard some people say you should wait until you are 21 before taking it because your hormones and body are still developing, so blocking it too early might affect late puberty growth/changes

 

[iblamemandible7]

I've heard some people say you should wait until you are 21 before taking it because your hormones and body are still developing, so blocking it too early might affect late puberty growth/changes

Im on it at 17 do it pussy

 

[iblamemandible7]

I've heard some people say you should wait until you are 21 before taking it because your hormones and body are still developing, so blocking it too early might affect late puberty growth/changes

But fr the only thing youll miss out on is extra dick growth but most men are done growing there at 16 so your call an extra couple mm on your dick maybe or stopping your hair loss

 

[sam12344343]

But fr the only thing youll miss out on is extra dick growth but most men are done growing there at 16 so your call an extra couple mm on your dick maybe or stopping your hair loss

It can also slow down your facial and body hair growth and impact your muscle gain and bone strength

 

[cucklek]

It also can slow down your facial and body hair growth and impact your muscle gain and bone strength

evidence for muscle gain?

 

[iblamemandible7]

It also can slow down your facial and body hair growth and impact your muscle gain and bone strength

Yes to body and facial hair growth but no to muscle or bone development, dht is inactivated in muscle by 3a hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, as far as bone growth we know that in mice type 1 5ar is much more abundant than type 2 (fin only blocks type 2, which has an almost negligible presence in mice bones and theres even less evidence for it playing a role in human bones). Studies on humans born with 5ar2 deficiency show them having normal bone density and they look pretty developed facially/in their frame. They actually tend to have more muscle due to the increased test from blocking the conversion. Overall the theoretical downsides are 100x less impactful to your looks than what balding will do. Side effects ofc are a different conversation but theyre pretty rare and theres no evidence theyre truly "permanent"

 

[TitusA]

Is DHT actually important after the age of 20? Can someone provide actually evidence to prove or disprove it

Its important for bodybuilders to look leaner/dryer and thats it tbh in terms of positives after 20.

It also can slow down your facial and body hair growth and impact your muscle gain and bone strength

i take dut and my facial hair still grows extremely quick plus i noticed no muscle loss compared to before I took it. I actuallly noticed a reduction in acne/spots after blocking it aswell

Test + 5ar blocker is the fountain of youth. Increases estrogen and reduces dht which makes skin look way better. Maintains perfect hairline.

 

[sam12344343]

evidence for muscle gain?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.12147

To save you time reading the whole study

 

[iblamemandible7]

Test + 5ar blocker is the fountain of youth. Increases estrogen and reduces dht which makes skin look way better. Maintains perfect hairline.

Spot on, one of the best looksmaxxing drugs oat fr

 

[iblamemandible7]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.12147

To save you time reading the whole study
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Just curious is this the study where the whole population studied were people who already claimed to have PFS? Because those people can be very irrational and hypochondriac

 

[TitusA]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.12147

To save you time reading the whole study
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Bro blocking it with 5ar actually increases testosterone which is way more important lol.

Moreplatesmoredates did a recent vid on it

 

[sam12344343]

Just curious, is this the study where the whole population studied were people who already claimed to have PFS? Because that population tends to be very irrational and hypochondriac, I really wouldnt rely on self reporting over endocrinology

Yes, this is a good point. Although, they may have stopped using Finasteride for a reason and idk if your point that they are "hypchondriac" is true, but this could be a possible reason for the results in the study. I think it can negatively affect muscle tone but the differences are likely to be negligible

 

[cucklek]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.12147

To save you time reading the whole study
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this is about PFS though, thats not the same as normal finasteride sides

people with pfs are lost causes

 

[iblamemandible7]

Yes, this is a good point. Although, they may have stopped using Finasteride for a reason and idk if your point that they are "hypchondriac" is true, but this could be a possible reason for the results in the study. I think it can negatively affect muscle tone but the differences are likely to be negligible

Honestly I just say that because I went on propeciahelp out of curiosity and it was mental. People claiming they lost 4 inches of height or their dick shrunk to half their size, even one guy saying his jaw bone shrunk by 50% when he clearly just got fucking fat lmao. Of course none of these people ever show any medical testing whatsoever, no xrays, no bloodwork, just mass hysteria and fear. DHT is really overrated tbh, it primarily is made and kept in the skin and reproductive area and has little influence outside of that