dimorphism > looks

caging so hard, if ur manlet and have subhuman face only option is to ogre max and masc max hard rather than all the surgeries for biggest chance of slaying
What Agreed. But none of that matters if you're a manlet (even with lifts you are average height). You could be roided AF you will always look like pussy bitch next to a lanklet. Even if you could go toe to toe and knock him out.
Sad fact of life that no matter how good looking in terms of PSL, your height will cuck you. It is a death sentence to be under 5'10 (because with being 5'10 you can fraud with lifts and such)


Newsflash - practically no one is a robust prettyboy. If you are MTN and want to get laid, this is the way to do it. Obviously being a naturally robust prettyboy will get you laid but if you AREN'T THAT (98% of men) OPs way is the method of getting slays. Water.

BBCs rest assured this doesn’t apply to you, you can be 5’6 and still get slays this applies to non blacks only
 
claiming something with empty words like most posts here
 
BBCs rest assured this doesn’t apply to you, you can be 5’6 and still get slays this applies to non blacks only
The reaso BBCs do so well is because they are dark af, usually have masculine af features like thick skin, dark hair etc. rested a don’t realise the main reason BBCs can look ltn and slay is because they look masculine af. Look at any bbc who is muscular with tattoos they all look masculine af. Face doesn’t even matter for them because of this
 
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Being dimorphic is more important for sexual attractiveness than being objectively good looking.

Being tall, broad, facial hair, msucular, dark hair and skin, strong jaw and browridge etc is the most important.


A 6'4 broad muscular MTN with dark stubble, tanned, strong jaw and hunter eyes will destroy Lucky blue smith who is chad facially in a club.



If you are reading this rn and are not subhuman but MTN then:

- roid
- tan (melanotan)
- minox your facial hair to get dark thick stubble
- height fraud with lifts
- Neck train every other day
- Dye eye brows black
- grow hair out so it's wavy to give better rugged look


Literally do this. Give it 3 months to grow full dark stubble and go terra hard in the gym get big shoulders and a thick af neck.


Go club or post new pics dating apps looking way more dimorphic and find out how much of a meme this sites advice is.



Here is a good male and female example of dimorphism vs beauty.


Female:
Supermodel Alessandra Ambrosio:


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vs extremely high e hormone markers pornstar:


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which one is hotter to you?? we all know the answer


AS LONG AS YOU ARE MTN BEFORE AN AUTIST PIPES UP WITH SOME BULLSHIT THIS ADVICE IS FOR.
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He might change that tho if he went to a club with a 6’5 broad muscular high dimorphic guy. Let’s see how cocky he is then.

He could easily get out completed also because he is small btw. What would he do if a guy much bigger than him tries to talk to the girl he is talking to? Nothing.
 
He might change that tho if he went to a club with a 6’5 broad muscular high dimorphic guy. Let’s see how cocky he is then.

He could easily get out completed also because he is small btw. What would he do if a guy much bigger than him tries to talk to the girl he is talking to? Nothing.
Are you constantly on 1g of test?
 
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I agree for the most part but dimorphism is a huge part of the looks equation. Ppl here call marko jaric a subhuman but he is too dimorphic to be one
 
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I agree for the most part but dimorphism is a huge part of the looks equation. Ppl here call marko jaric a subhuman but he is too dimorphic to be one
lmao no he is ugly af and isn't dimorphic at all
 
I agree for the most part but dimorphism is a huge part of the looks equation. Ppl here call marko jaric a subhuman but he is too dimorphic to be one
he has no zygos, rounded jaw, prey eyes he looks like a beta bitch and i will smack that fag tbh idc how tall he is he looks like a bitch
 
he has no zygos, rounded jaw, prey eyes he looks like a beta bitch and i will smack that fag tbh idc how tall he is he looks like a bitch
He's a fucking ogre jfl
1000034148

You wouldn't wanna come across him in a dark alley
 
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bro he has no dimorphic features are you a retard? he has zero eyebrows, prey eyes, rounded jaw, no zygos, he is ugly af
My friend he's 10 times more dimorphic than you
 
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I choose the first foid
 
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for old women yes
 
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Alessandra easily, you're retarded nigga
 
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Sad fact of life that no matter how good looking in terms of PSL, your height will cuck you. It is a death sentence to be under 5'10 (because with being 5'10 you can fraud with lifts and such)


Newsflash - practically no one is a robust prettyboy. If you are MTN and want to get laid, this is the way to do it. Obviously being a naturally robust prettyboy will get you laid but if you AREN'T THAT (98% of men) OPs way is the method of getting slays. Water.
I dont think its a death sentence to be under 5'10. Prob under 5'8. This is the only thing u have ever said that I disagree with u on ur insane high IQ but i just disagree on this one thing i think height inflation plays a big part into this belief as well since a lot of women are told by guys they are 5'10 when in reality they are 5'8-5'9 larping etc etc
 
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I dont think its a death sentence to be under 5'10. Prob under 5'8. This is the only thing u have ever said that I disagree with u on ur insane high IQ but i just disagree on this one thing i think height inflation plays a big part into this belief as well since a lot of women are told by guys they are 5'10 when in reality they are 5'8-5'9 larping etc etc
Thanks bhai :Comfy:

However, it is such a failo to be below 5'10. I'm not giving crazy standards here either. I'm not trying to say 5'10 is manlet or even 6 foot is manlet. It cannot be understated how big of a failo being under 5'10 atleast is. I understand most guys lie about their height but problem is girls don't care about the number you give them they just look at you and see if you are tall enough. We are going through the heightpocalypse right now (as said by @ChadL1te and I agree) and every guy is inflating their height. A real 5'8 guy has so much less SMV than the same guy but with +3/4 inches added onto their height.
 
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Thanks bhai :Comfy:

However, it is such a failo to be below 5'10. I'm not giving crazy standards here either. I'm not trying to say 5'10 is manlet or even 6 foot is manlet. It cannot be understated how big of a failo being under 5'10 atleast is. I understand most guys lie about their height but problem is girls don't care about the number you give them they just look at you and see if you are tall enough. We are going through the heightpocalypse right now (as said by @ChadL1te and I agree) and every guy is inflating their height. A real 5'8 guy has so much less SMV than the same guy but with +3/4 inches added onto their height.
I agree that below 5'10 is a failo for sure even unlarped. But let me ask u this. How does 5'8 chadlite compare to 6'0 mtn? I know 6'0 htn would win IMO but i truly think if ur in the 5'8-5'10 range and u have a minimum great face then ur fine. Ur nerfed compared to the elite of the elite guys of course and taller women prob wont go for u but ur still gonna have great options with women, especially on OLD. LMK what u think. I get where ur coming from but its not over at those height's IMO, I've seen too many manlets slay just because they had good pheno or were good looking at those heights. But i agree height is crucial as fuck nowadays
 
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I agree that below 5'10 is a failo for sure even unlarped. But let me ask u this. How does 5'8 chadlite compare to 6'0 mtn? I know 6'0 htn would win IMO but i truly think if ur in the 5'8-5'10 range and u have a minimum great face then ur fine. Ur nerfed compared to the elite of the elite guys of course and taller women prob wont go for u but ur still gonna have great options with women, especially on OLD. LMK what u think. I get where ur coming from but its not over at those height's IMO, I've seen too many manlets slay just because they had good pheno or were good looking at those heights. But i agree height is crucial as fuck nowadays
5'8 Chadlite would win against MTN but HTN he won't. I mean 5'8 is really getting on the lower end of the height spectrum for men. With a great face you will always be able to get laid but genuinely like 5'7 is the point where you can't even fraud anymore. Even with 3 inch lifts you are only 5'10. 5'8 is really low for men in western countries. I say this but to be honest, most boomers I meet are like a few inches under my height. I've used a tape measure to measure myself and it was at 6 foot before but I was measured 5'11 on a stadiometer so I don't larp or anything I am a legit 5'11 measured by stadiometer. Even being 5'11 I am inches taller than most people I see on the trains here. I think you're nerfed far more on dating apps when you list your height as opposed to IRL because in real life your aura comes into play and it's not as important your listed height on dating apps (I might be wrong on this tbh)

Yeah I agree but face will always guarantee you slays unless you are genuinely giga manlet tier. Yeah of course short guys can slay but problem is most girls will view their height as such a failo they will be turned off. I meet many women in NYC who are actually quite tall. It's such a turn off (I think atleast) if a woman is same height or even taller than you. Below 5'10 is the point there it starts becoming a failo.
 
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5'8 Chadlite would win against MTN but HTN he won't. I mean 5'8 is really getting on the lower end of the height spectrum for men. With a great face you will always be able to get laid but genuinely like 5'7 is the point where you can't even fraud anymore. Even with 3 inch lifts you are only 5'10. 5'8 is really low for men in western countries. I say this but to be honest, most boomers I meet are like a few inches under my height. I've used a tape measure to measure myself and it was at 6 foot before but I was measured 5'11 on a stadiometer so I don't larp or anything I am a legit 5'11 measured by stadiometer. Even being 5'11 I am inches taller than most people I see on the trains here. I think you're nerfed far more on dating apps when you list your height as opposed to IRL because in real life your aura comes into play and it's not as important your listed height on dating apps (I might be wrong on this tbh)

Yeah I agree but face will always guarantee you slays unless you are genuinely giga manlet tier. Yeah of course short guys can slay but problem is most girls will view their height as such a failo they will be turned off. I meet many women in NYC who are actually quite tall. It's such a turn off (I think atleast) if a woman is same height or even taller than you. Below 5'10 is the point there it starts becoming a failo.
fair analysis. Dont really disagree with anything u said here. The good news is u can always larp (within reason via lifts) but yea after a certain height it just becomes too hard. I genuinely wonder what the average height is nowadays for men. Feels like its gotten taller but i don't feel dwarfed at 5'9.5. I feel average or at worst slightly below and when i wear lifts i don't run into issues but def on nights out in high class or young ppl populated areas i feel the height difference a lot more. I start to feel a bit below average in those situations for sure.
 
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fair analysis. Dont really disagree with anything u said here. The good news is u can always larp (within reason via lifts) but yea after a certain height it just becomes too hard. I genuinely wonder what the average height is nowadays for men. Feels like its gotten taller but i don't feel dwarfed at 5'9.5. I feel average or at worst slightly below and when i wear lifts i don't run into issues but def on nights out in high class or young ppl populated areas i feel the height difference a lot more. I start to feel a bit below average in those situations for sure.
Yeah lifts will save. 5'9.5 is not even really that much of a nerf especially depending on country. In real life I've found height never being brought up but with OLD your height is more important. In any shoes you are 5'10 and that doesn't limit your dating life unless the girl is taller (probably only 5% of women are above 5'10)

Yes I've noticed this as well. I went to an area of upstate New York known for having many young white people and I swear everyone there was a fucking giant. I also noticed they had like weird or shit looking faces though so maybe there's something in the water that is making these kids tall but have no dimorphism.
 
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thanks bro ur words make me feel better. With lifts i never really run in to issues, i just have to deal with giga tall nigers like everyone else and that shit always pisses me off

For those areas with hella tall ppl i just ignore it tbh. Its not as bad here at UT Austin but at bars and clubs u def can tell only the tall nigers come out to play so i have to just cold approach women and hope they like my face or deal with the fact that i will be incel for the night if i don't make moves since so many more guys stand out. Those environments are strickly height and frame pill but its ok u just gotta adapt to ur environment that's why i like lifts so much. Good talk bruv
 
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Yeah lifts will save. 5'9.5 is not even really that much of a nerf especially depending on country. In real life I've found height never being brought up but with OLD your height is more important. In any shoes you are 5'10 and that doesn't limit your dating life unless the girl is taller (probably only 5% of women are above 5'10)

Yes I've noticed this as well. I went to an area of upstate New York known for having many young white people and I swear everyone there was a fucking giant. I also noticed they had like weird or shit looking faces though so maybe there's something in the water that is making these kids tall but have no dimorphism.
Lmfao fr I thought the whole Netherlands thing was a meme but my job this summer has me in an area with a shit ton of tourists and the Dutch and German make my height feel not special
 
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Lmfao fr I thought the whole Netherlands thing was a meme but my job this summer has me in an area with a shit ton of tourists and the Dutch and German make my height feel not special
What the fuck are these kids eating? I was atleast like 8 years older than these dudes I saw who to go the university there ( I visited New Paltz NY it's kind of upstate and there is a big college there) and I swear like most of them were GENUINELY over 6 feet tall. I have no explanation for this. Most of the zoomers height mogged the fuck out of me but with boomers I was taller than all of them.

For clarification, it was a town full of white zoomers. White zoomers are so fucking tall it's ridiculous.
 
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What the fuck are these kids eating? I was atleast like 8 years older than these dudes I saw who to go the university there ( I visited New Paltz NY it's kind of upstate and there is a big college there) and I swear like most of them were GENUINELY over 6 feet tall. I have no explanation for this. Most of the zoomers height mogged the fuck out of me but with boomers I was taller than all of them.

For clarification, it was a town full of white zoomers. White zoomers are so fucking tall it's ridiculous.
My theory is that it’s all about wealth. SUNY new paltz dosent have tons of rich kids but if you can afford even a state university you’re not poor. When I go to poor parts of the city I feel like a giant. Even tho there are rich ppl in nyc I would bet upstate is slightly taller on average because most people there are middle class or higher. I even went to a super rich high school and all the guys were my height

Tall men are more wealthy on average, and women from wealthy families want to marry rich men, so wealthy areas are gonna be taller
 
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My theory is that it’s all about wealth. SUNY new paltz dosent have tons of rich kids but if you can afford even a state university you’re not poor. When I go to poor parts of the city I feel like a giant. Even tho there are rich ppl in nyc I would bet upstate is slightly taller on average because most people there are middle class or higher. I even went to a super rich high school and all the guys were my height

Tall men are more wealthy on average, and women from wealthy families want to marry rich men, so wealthy areas are gonna be taller
But why were like 70% of the zoomers I seen in New Paltz like genuinely over 6 feet tall if it isn't rich? I am 5'11 and I swear every other zoomer I saw was over 6 foot or bare minimum 6 feet. The short ones seemed very short but if they weren't short they were very tall. Yes I feel like a giant too when I ride the train I usually take because it goes through a very ethnic area. Most people on the subway are Mexican who are around 5'7 (men and women) so it makes me feel tall yes. I am White but I swear when I go to affluent white neighborhoods or states with many white people (I also experienced this in New Hampshire) you will see TONS of white zoomers who are fucking giant.

You're right though.
 
But why were like 70% of the zoomers I seen in New Paltz like genuinely over 6 feet tall if it isn't rich? I am 5'11 and I swear every other zoomer I saw was over 6 foot or bare minimum 6 feet. The short ones seemed very short but if they weren't short they were very tall. Yes I feel like a giant too when I ride the train I usually take because it goes through a very ethnic area. Most people on the subway are Mexican who are around 5'7 (men and women) so it makes me feel tall yes. I am White but I swear when I go to affluent white neighborhoods or states with many white people (I also experienced this in New Hampshire) you will see TONS of white zoomers who are fucking giant.

You're right though.
Well the people there aren’t especially rich but I think the main reason being is they aren’t poor. Also I could be overstating this theory but it also ties back to my point about the spread of height (might repost in a separate thread tn)
 
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This is why ricecels actually have it worse than curries we literally have negative dimorphism and are literally closer to women of other races than men of other races in dimorphism:ogre::ogre::ogre::ogre::ogre::ogre:

we are literally cursed:feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
Bookmarked I'm hopping on soon and you are right about the prettiness thing, a few girls on dating apps have called me beautiful in the past and what not but it's difficult actually getting with them.
 

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