Discussion thread about androgens in heightmaxx

[MA_ascender]

@elemanzelvadre has been pushing the androgen meta in heightcelling discourse, why exactly ? Can you give some interesting studies or facts that pushed you from 8 iu of gh to a lower gh dose (4iu which is lowkey peptide territory) with thyroid hormone and testosterone + ai?

 

[dark.max]

HGH no matter what dose won’t help after 14 years old

 

[MA_ascender]

HGH no matter what dose won’t help after 14 years old

Yea but this thread is about why he lowered his gh and claims androgens as the way

 

[dark.max]

Yea but this thread is about why he lowered his gh and claims androgens as the way

I don’t know his theory I think he thinks testosterone has a link to the production of growth hormones,might be true but not proven 100%.

 

[MA_ascender]

I don’t know his theory I think he thinks testosterone has a link to the production of growth hormones,might be true but not proven 100%.

Sure, even if it doesn't work testosterone has good effects other than height

 

[Deleted member 87612]

what are his results?

 

[MA_ascender]

what are his results?

I think 5 cm

 

[elemanzelvadre]

@elemanzelvadre has been pushing the androgen meta in heightcelling discourse, why exactly ? Can you give some interesting studies or facts that pushed you from 8 iu of gh to a lower gh dose (4iu which is lowkey peptide territory) with thyroid hormone and testosterone + ai?

I use androgens for facial development and to keep insulin within a safe range while dirty bulking.

I have two obese friends whose parents are the same height. And they are both giants, 1.90 and 2 meters tall

Growth hormone is valid, but the combination of Growth hormone and insulin is more valid. If u dont eat 3.5k-4k kcal minimum there are no sense of 8iu hgh

 

[elemanzelvadre]

I think 5 cm

3.5 cm no growth for 3.5 months due to low insulin+t4

 

[MA_ascender]

I use androgens for facial development and to keep insulin within a safe range while dirty bulking.

I have two obese friends whose parents are the same height. And they are both giants, 1.90 and 2 meters tall

Growth hormone is valid, but the combination of Growth hormone and insulin is more valid. If u dont eat 3.5k-4k kcal minimum there are no sense of 8iu hgh

Thoughts on GHRH+GHRP, testosterone and insulin + aromasin t4

 

[Deleted member 87612]

I think 5 cm

how do you know it was the stack

 

[MA_ascender]

how do you know it was the stack

Idk ask him

 

[elemanzelvadre]

Thoughts on GHRH+GHRP, testosterone and insulin + aromasin t4

If you are going to use insulin, I recommend taking rHGrowth Hormone.
For someone who doesn't take insulin, GHRPs will enough

 

[MA_ascender]

If you are going to use insulin, I recommend taking rHGrowth Hormone.
For someone who doesn't take insulin, GHRPs will enough

I heard u can take low dose insulin to increase igf1 with modgrf + ipam + mk677

 

[MA_ascender]

If you are going to use insulin, I recommend taking rHGrowth Hormone.
For someone who doesn't take insulin, GHRPs will enough

Did you do thyroid bloods?

 

[MA_ascender]

@YahyAxis

 

[elemanzelvadre]

I heard u can take low dose insulin to increase igf1 with modgrf + ipam + mk677

The main purpose of taking insulin is not Igf
to transport nutrients to the cells with less fat gains

 

[elemanzelvadre]

Did you do thyroid bloods?

1.2 t4 level

 

[MA_ascender]

The main purpose of taking insulin is not Igf
to transport nutrients to the cells with less fat gains

But it does increase igf1 and gh release from peptides right, also insulin can bind to the igf1 receptor with about 30% affinity

 

[Deleted member 87612]

If you are going to use insulin, I recommend taking rHGrowth Hormone.
For someone who doesn't take insulin, GHRPs will enough

how do you know it was the stack and not genes

 

[MA_ascender]

1.2 t4 level

With or without t4 pills

 

[elemanzelvadre]

With or without t4 pills

With pills 1.2

Without 0.65

 

[MA_ascender]

With pills 1.2

Without 0.65

Good, I will probably start taking 75 mcg

 

[elemanzelvadre]

how do you know it was the stack and not genes

My growth velocity higher than 14,15,16

Also i gain 50 lbs of muscle

 

[elemanzelvadre]

Good, I will probably start taking 75 mcg

Start with 25 bcs u need shutdown tsh first and dont go above 1.8 t4 level

 

[20/04/2008]

@elemanzelvadre has been pushing the androgen meta in heightcelling discourse, why exactly ? Can you give some interesting studies or facts that pushed you from 8 iu of gh to a lower gh dose (4iu which is lowkey peptide territory) with thyroid hormone and testosterone + ai?

Androgens cause it through indirect effects
Would the increase protein synthesis and collagen
Also didn’t i send you a study where t3 increase also growth velocity ????

 

[YahyAxis]

@YahyAxis

You adding something to the stack?

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

(4iu which is lowkey peptide territory)

endogenous hgh production is less than 1iu

 

[MA_ascender]

endogenous hgh production is less than 1iu

Idk tbh I think I saw somewhere that you can hit more or less the same amount of igf1 as 4 iu with cjc ipam and mk677

 

[MA_ascender]

You adding something to the stack?

Nah I'll just get testosterone from the pharmacy or on a future order

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Idk tbh I think I saw somewhere that you can hit more or less the same amount of igf1 as 4 iu with cjc ipam and mk677

4iu of actual hgh is way more effective and safer tho

 

[MA_ascender]

4iu of actual hgh is way more effective and safer tho

Yea

 

[YahyAxis]

Nah I'll just get testosterone from the pharmacy or on a future order

They give testosterone in pharmacies? what do you tell em

 

[MA_ascender]

They give testosterone in pharmacies? what do you tell em

Salam bghit androtardyl

That's all they don't give a shit, at least in the slums where I live

 

[Sapieeen]

Salam bghit androtardyl

That's all they don't give a shit, at least in the slums where I live

its avaliable tho?

 

[Sapieeen]

Salam bghit androtardyl

That's all they don't give a shit, at least in the slums where I live

get you some if the qsc plan fails for you

 

[MA_ascender]

get you some if the qsc plan fails for you

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

Yea but this thread is about why he lowered his gh and claims androgens as the way

well the teenage roider guy got a growth spurt after starting and now he’s 6’6 with a 6’0.5 dad and a 5’8 mom