Discussion

[tegene]

Let's talk exclusively about cranial bones. We all know that the growth and ossification process of the facial bones is different from that of the rest of the body and occurs in a process called intramembranous ossification. Basically, I want to touch on a point regarding bone remodeling after the fusion of the sutures present in the bones of the skull. From what I understand (I could be wrong), all facial exercises are a lie and won't implement any kind of change that could help within safe limits, since, outside of these, they stop being safe. I want to make it clear that I'm not referring to posture correction exercises like chin tucks, mewing, etc. My point is that suture fusion completely indicates the cessation of bone growth and bone fixation, but it doesn't completely prevent bone remodeling. There are exercises, perhaps yet to be discovered, that, with the right measurements, directions, angles, and the necessary force, can, with continuous use over long periods of time, serve to reverse negative growth and promote forward growth.

So, when cranial sutures (not growth plates) fuse:

• Growth in skull size stops (no more expansion).
• But: Bone mass and remodeling can still occur!

This means: Even after sutures close, the bones can still remodel, thicken slightly, or change density due to mechanical stress, hormones, or aging. But no significant growth or movement happens after fusion.

So, even after the understanding that the development we go trough from the moment we were conceived to the the fuse of our cranial sutures defines our skull after we’re done growing, the idea that it might be too late to a lot of people and that most are doomed can perhaps be wrong. I think the remodeling through the right exercises and consistency can be a possibility to change a lot of people that have a good amount of bone mass and that ones whose facial attractiveness is poor due to recession/downward growth problems without any type of deformity and those whose problems are only derived from the causes I mentioned early have salvation.

Please comment on this.

 

[vincentzygo]

No

 

[idkmanimao]

Let's talk exclusively about cranial bones. We all know that the growth and ossification process of the facial bones is different from that of the rest of the body and occurs in a process called intramembranous ossification. Basically, I want to touch on a point regarding bone remodeling after the fusion of the sutures present in the bones of the skull. From what I understand (I could be wrong), all facial exercises are a lie and won't implement any kind of change that could help within safe limits, since, outside of these, they stop being safe. I want to make it clear that I'm not referring to posture correction exercises like chin tucks, mewing, etc. My point is that suture fusion completely indicates the cessation of bone growth and bone fixation, but it doesn't completely prevent bone remodeling. There are exercises, perhaps yet to be discovered, that, with the right measurements, directions, angles, and the necessary force, can, with continuous use over long periods of time, serve to reverse negative growth and promote forward growth.

So, when cranial sutures (not growth plates) fuse:

• Growth in skull size stops (no more expansion).
• But: Bone mass and remodeling can still occur!

This means: Even after sutures close, the bones can still remodel, thicken slightly, or change density due to mechanical stress, hormones, or aging. But no significant growth or movement happens after fusion.

So, even after the understanding that the development we go trough from the moment we were conceived to the the fuse of our cranial sutures defines our skull after we’re done growing, the idea that it might be too late to a lot of people and that most are doomed can perhaps be wrong. I think the remodeling through the right exercises and consistency can be a possibility to change a lot of people that have a good amount of bone mass and that ones whose facial attractiveness is poor due to recession/downward growth problems without any type of deformity and those whose problems are only derived from the causes I mentioned early have salvation.

Please comment on this.

You’re right that suture fusion marks the end of true cranial bone growth in terms of expanding dimensions, but it doesn’t completely freeze the skull in place forever. Even in adulthood, cranial bones remain biologically active through remodeling osteoblasts and osteoclasts are constantly replacing micro-damaged bone and adjusting density based on mechanical forces and hormonal environment. That’s why things like tooth movement in orthodontics, or changes in bone shape from chronic habits, are possible even decades after growth stops.

 

[vincentzygo]

You’re right that suture fusion marks the end of true cranial bone growth in terms of expanding dimensions, but it doesn’t completely freeze the skull in place forever. Even in adulthood, cranial bones remain biologically active through remodeling osteoblasts and osteoclasts are constantly replacing micro-damaged bone and adjusting density based on mechanical forces and hormonal environment. That’s why things like tooth movement in orthodontics, or changes in bone shape from chronic habits, are possible even decades after growth stops.

Blah blah just bonesmash and thumbpull

 

[idkmanimao]

Blah blah just bonesmash and thumbpull

Bone smashing and thumb pulling don’t really work to change your bone structure. Bones are solid and rigid once fully developed, and trying to “smash” or pull them won’t reshape them it can just cause injury. Real bone remodeling happens slowly through biological processes like growth, remodeling from stress, or surgery, not quick physical force.

TL: DR
bone smashing and thumbpulling don't work.

 

[tegene]

You’re right that suture fusion marks the end of true cranial bone growth in terms of expanding dimensions, but it doesn’t completely freeze the skull in place forever. Even in adulthood, cranial bones remain biologically active through remodeling osteoblasts and osteoclasts are constantly replacing micro-damaged bone and adjusting density based on mechanical forces and hormonal environment. That’s why things like tooth movement in orthodontics, or changes in bone shape from chronic habits, are possible even decades after growth stops.

So if u were to indicate to me naturals exercises what would they be? I think i have decent masseters, i already have a decent eye area but ny downward growth genuinely nerfs me.

 

[tegene]

Blah blah just bonesmash and thumbpull

How do i reply with a laughing emoji

 

[idkmanimao]

So if u were to indicate to me naturals exercises what would they be?

just good habits. the only thing that can save or fix down growth is genetics (or posture if that was the cause of your down growth, but then it's not referred to as down growth anymore.

 

[tegene]

just good habits. the only thing that can save or fix down growth is genetics (or posture if that was the cause of your down growth, but then it's not referred to as down growth anymore.

Could i send you a picture so u cant help me?

 

[idkmanimao]

How do i reply with a laughing emoji

hover over the thumbs up button, and click the: if your on phone, hold the button and press

 

[idkmanimao]

Could i send you a picture so u cant help me?

sure

 

[tegene]

hover over the thumbs up button, and click the: if your on phone, hold the button and press

Thanks

 

[tegene]

You’re right that suture fusion marks the end of true cranial bone growth in terms of expanding dimensions, but it doesn’t completely freeze the skull in place forever. Even in adulthood, cranial bones remain biologically active through remodeling osteoblasts and osteoclasts are constantly replacing micro-damaged bone and adjusting density based on mechanical forces and hormonal environment. That’s why things like tooth movement in orthodontics, or changes in bone shape from chronic habits, are possible even decades after growth stops.

I mean, the recent salludon x-ray results with only prove my take more

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Please comment on this.

bone re-modelling only replaces old bones with new bone tissue it doesn't just add bones from abra-kadabra.
shape won't change

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

I mean, the recent salludon x-ray results with only prove my take more

It's just another grift

JFL if you buy into that crap

 

[tegene]

bone re-modelling only replaces old bones with new bone tissue it doesn't just add bones from abra-kadabra.
shape won't change

Bone is adaptable. I believe with a good amount of force in the right directions throughout continuous years can change the shape of your skull

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Bone is adaptable. I believe with a good amount of force in the right directions throughout continuous years can change the shape of your skull

Absolutely false

 

[tegene]

Absolutely false

Shi, i just want to run an experiment throughout 10 years with different amounts of force to see if it exists a range where the force would be enough to reshape or if it would go from “not enough force to reshape” to “damaging bones”

 

[Wexilarious]

 

[tegene]

This wouldn’t really be an example because his sutures are not fused making his bone much more susceptible for change