Do anabolics/roids accelerate facial aging

[tiger88]

Hi peeps

I am looking to roid max. Combo will be
1. Test Enanthate -300mg + Test boldenone-300 mg + Test propionate-300 mg = 900mg *3 times a week= 2700 mg /week
2. Anavar -40mg/day
3. Anti-estrogen - Proviron + Tamodex
4. Human growth hormone -4IU/day + T3-25mcg
5. Clenbuterol -80mg/day - one week on, one week off

Any thoughts if it will accelerate facial ageing. I am 30 years old.

 

[Deleted member 4310]

No not really, the only issue is balding which of course makes you look older.

 

[tiger88]

No not really, the only issue is balding which of course makes you look older.

Finasteride will work. 1 mg/day. I have observed bodybuilders roid maxing looking older than their age.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Finasteride will work. 1 mg/day. I have observed bodybuilders roid maxing looking older than their age.

Testosterone can cause balding even with dutasteride dth lowered to zero.

 

[PurplePaintBox]

hgh will definitely speed up facial aging, but in a more rugged way than just looking old

 

[tiger88]

Testosterone can cause balding even with dutasteride dth lowered to zero.

What if balding is taken care of. Will face age faster? I have seen bodybuilders looking more mature/older than their age on roids. Is it halo?

hgh will definitely speed up facial aging, but in a more rugged way than just looking old

Isn't hgh touted as opposite? Anti- aging?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

I am looking to roid max. Combo will be
1. Test Enanthate -300mg + Test boldenone-300 mg + Test propionate-300 mg = 900mg *3 times a week= 2700 mg /week
2. Anavar -40mg/day
3. Anti-estrogen - Proviron + Tamodex
4. Human growth hormone -4IU/day + T3-25mcg
5. Clenbuterol -80mg/day - one week on, one week off

is this your first fucking cycle?

 

[tiger88]

is this your first fucking cycle?

Yes.

 

[PurplePaintBox]

What if balding is taken care of. Will face age faster? I have seen bodybuilders looking more mature/older than their age on roids. Is it halo?

Isn't hgh touted as opposite? Anti- aging?

hgh is not very beneficial if you're normal height and weight, and your hormontal biological developmental cues (armpit hair, mustache, bigger penis, getting taller) are apparent. If you overdo it you can end up looking like one of those human shreks. If you're falling behind in say height, where you fall a few inches of height from the average height of your age and demographic group, it can definitely be a life saver and save you from being a trucel.

 

[tiger88]

hgh is not very beneficial if you're normal height and weight, and your hormontal biological developmental cues (armpit hair, mustache, bigger penis, getting taller) are apparent. If you overdo it you can end up looking like one of those human shreks. If you're falling behind in say height, where you fall a few inches of height from the average height of your age and demographic group, it can definitely be a life saver and save you from being a trucel.

Isnt hgh anti-aging as well?

 

[PurplePaintBox]

Isnt hgh anti-aging as well?

if you are going to do it I recommend a smaller dosage (4-6 IU of HGH per day) and gradually increase it once you see it benefiting you and you don't see any fucked up adverse effects.

 

[Deleted member 2756]

Yes.

Tone it fucking down, do you have any desire to pro-create, reproduce etc?
massive overkill, just run a test cycle with some exemestane or Arimidex.

What if balding is taken care of.

balding is inevitable if you were to run this stack, you're supplementing your body with a supraphysiological amount of androgens, testosterone will cause balding contrary to popular belief, it's called 'androgenic alopecia' not 'dihydrotestosterone alopecia', adding in a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor will only remove one androgen from the equation.

 

[tiger88]

if you are going to do it I recommend a smaller dosage (4-6 IU of HGH per day) and gradually increase it once you see it benefiting you and you don't see any fucked up adverse effects.

I am on 4IU/day

Tone it fucking down, do you have any desire to pro-create, reproduce etc?
massive overkill, just run a test cycle with some exemestane or Arimidex.

balding is inevitable if you were to run this stack, you're supplementing your body with a supraphysiological amount of androgens, testosterone will cause balding contrary to popular belief, it's called 'androgenic alopecia' not 'dihydrotestosterone alopecia', adding in a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor will only remove one androgen from the equation.

What changes do you recommend ?

 

[Robocok]

I am on 4IU/day

What changes do you recommend ?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

What changes do you recommend ?

take testosterone enanthate or cypionate 250mg every five to seven days, have an aromatase inhibitor on hand. If you have a genetic proclivity for androgenic alopecia than I don't recommend you take exemestane as one of its active metabolites, 6-methylene-boldenone, that happens to be an extremely potent androgen, with a high affinity for the AR. Around 45% of exemestane is metabolized into this super androgen, supposedly it is 40x stronger than dihydrotestosterone, multiple men report shedding whilst on it. There's always anastrozole and letrozole, both of which are non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors, they bind to the heme of the CYP450 unit, and degrade the function of the enzyme, do some research on them though, come to a conclusion.

are you balding, or predisposed to balding?

 

[badmantier]

this is just one example but that Vitaly dude looks like he accelerated 10 years in just 2-3 years, he seriously looks like an old man now despite being in his late 20s. And he's admitted to taking anabolic steroids

 

[Deleted member 6573]

Every powerlifter/bodybuilder looks old as fuck for their age. Lifting weights in general is not good for aging.

 

[KingOfRome]

This looks like a cutting cycle. Are you looking to get ripped? How long is this cycle? Test boldenone? Boldenone is derived from test, but it's not test, it's a completely separate compound. So you're injecting 300 mgs of boldenone. And why are you injecting enanth and prop together? If you're cutting, you're better off injecting 100 mgs of prop every day if you want 700 mgs a week, or 50 mgs a day if you want 350 mgs per week.

enanthate or cypionate 250mg every five to seven days

You know the half-life for both those is around 7 days, right? He needs to inject every 3.5 days if he opts for one of those instead of propionate (he should use propionate).

 

[Gaia262]

this is just one example but that Vitaly dude looks like he accelerated 10 years in just 2-3 years, he seriously looks like an old man now despite being in his late 20s. And he's admitted to taking anabolic steroids

This.

 

[Bewusst]

They can make you LOOK older due to hair follicles and sebaceous glands being exposed to a large amount of androgens in an unusually short time period which means more (mature) body and facial hair, less/thinner scalp hair and fattier, less clean and youthful looking skin. You'll accelerate any androgen-related hair changes (body, face and scalp) but, on the other hand, reverse or slow down other aspects of aging, such as lean body mass, skin thickness and bone density.

 

[TitusA]

Hi peeps

I am looking to roid max. Combo will be
1. Test Enanthate -300mg + Test boldenone-300 mg + Test propionate-300 mg = 900mg *3 times a week= 2700 mg /week
2. Anavar -40mg/day
3. Anti-estrogen - Proviron + Tamodex
4. Human growth hormone -4IU/day + T3-25mcg
5. Clenbuterol -80mg/day - one week on, one week off

Any thoughts if it will accelerate facial ageing. I am 30 years old.

They will acceralted face aging if you're in early teens/late 20's. They speed up puberty pretty much. I recommend you dont take that much shit though just take test allong with an AI.

 

[Deleted member 2756]

You know the half-life for both those is around 7 days, right? He needs to inject every 3.5 days if he opts for one of those instead of propionate (he should use propionate).

yeah, doesn't the blood serum levels of testosterone drop after 3.5 days on these esters?
my bad, thanks for the correction.

 

[Moggy]

is this your first fucking cycle?

He is beyond stupid.

 

[goat2x]

take testosterone enanthate or cypionate 250mg every five to seven days, have an aromatase inhibitor on hand. If you have a genetic proclivity for androgenic alopecia than I don't recommend you take exemestane as one of its active metabolites, 6-methylene-boldenone, that happens to be an extremely potent androgen, with a high affinity for the AR. Around 45% of exemestane is metabolized into this super androgen, supposedly it is 40x stronger than dihydrotestosterone, multiple men report shedding whilst on it. There's always anastrozole and letrozole, both of which are non-steroidal aromatase inhibitors, they bind to the heme of the CYP450 unit, and degrade the function of the enzyme, do some research on them though, come to a conclusion.

are you balding, or predisposed to balding?

If u stop taking aromasin will ur hair go back to normal or it will fuck your scalp up

 

[Deleted member 2756]

to be fair, nothing in the stack other than the testosterone will cause any suppression. anavar has a very short half life and isn't as suppressive as testosterone so it wouldn't benefit his gonads by removing it from the stack.

if you supplement yourself with an exogenous form of androgen, whether it be a relatively weak prohormone like androsterone or a 19-nor derived compound like trenbolone, you're going to experience some form of hpta suppression, it's inevitable. People don't realize how intricate and complex the endocrine system is, sure if you run testosterone and Anavar you're not going to destroy your gonads, I wasn't implying that, it's just the more compounds you use, the higher chance your endocrine system is going to have a harder time, regulating its endogenous functions to combat the amount of supraphysiologic androgens.

 

[Moggy]

if you are going to do it I recommend a smaller dosage (4-6 IU of HGH per day) and gradually increase it once you see it benefiting you and you don't see any fucked up adverse effects.

4-6 IU of even decent HGH is an insane dosage to run.

Anti aging dosages for HGH is usually .5 to 1IU daily.

 

[KingOfRome]

yeah, doesn't the blood serum levels of testosterone drop after 3.5 days on these esters?
my bad, thanks for the correction.

There are always peaks and dips, but they're going to be excessive if you inject any less frequently than that. Propionate also has a half-life of about two days, which is why it's best to inject propionate daily, The more frequently you inject, the more even your blood levels will be.

 

[Deleted member 2756]

If u stop taking aromasin will ur hair go back to normal or it will fuck your scalp up

well the metabolite will be conjugated and will be excreted via urine or feces..
so yes, your hair will be fine, as long as you don't already have a genetic proclivity for androgenic alopecia, in that case, you're fucked. In my case, I can use exogenous dihydrotestosterone and experience zero hair loss at all, eventually, if I abuse the compound enough I might see some hair fall out, but my father and grandfather are both norwood one, dad was norwood one his entire life, I think it's safe to say that I'm gonna be fine, plus he had chemotherapy and still didn't lose much of his hair.

 

[DoWhatYouCan]

Isnt hgh anti-aging as well?

No, HGH ages your cells. It will make skin look better but underneath the surface you are accelerating aging. Do not use hgh or clen on your first cycle. And do not use two types of test. Stick to type and I would go 300mg test e and 300 bold

 

[Deleted member 2756]

There are always peaks and dips, but they're going to be excessive if you inject any less frequently than that. Propionate also has a half-life of about two days, which is why it's best to inject propionate daily, The more frequently you inject, the more even your blood levels will be.

personally I would never use long estered androgens as they have a proclivity to suppress harder than shorter esters like propionate.
I've got 100g of test base right now, could make my own transdermal delivery system with DMSO and isopropyl alcohol, apparently if you apply it to areas dense in 5-alpha-reductase you'll end up with a shit load of dht.

 

[Deleted member 3962]

ppl who roid instead of just natty gymcel are retards w/ no willpower or drive

there are no shortcuts

 

[goat2x]

well the metabolite will be conjugated and will be excreted via urine or feces..
so yes, your hair will be fine, as long as you don't already have a genetic proclivity for androgenic alopecia, in that case, you're fucked. In my case, I can use exogenous dihydrotestosterone and experience zero hair loss at all, eventually, if I abuse the compound enough I might see some hair fall out, but my father and grandfather are both norwood one, dad was norwood one his entire life, I think it's safe to say that I'm gonna be fine, plus he had chemotherapy and still didn't lose much of his hair.

how much do u take
my dad is nw 0 at his 40s but his ancestor were all bald at 20 lmao

 

[Deusmaximus]

I dont know how hgh should be anti aging.
Anti aging experts take metformin, to reduce igf1 levels, but hgh is increasing igf1??

 

[Deleted member 2756]

although all androgens bind to the hair follicle, I would imagine exogenous T + finasteride would cause similar hair loss to someone using neither.

look, if you're balding hard enough and bad enough, even testosterone needs to be blocked.
go on the hairlosstalk forum, there are MEN using topical synthetic 17-beta-estradiol and oral ethinylestradiol along with androgen receptor antagonists like cyproterone acetate and spironolactone. Even with all of these anti-androgens and anagen promoters they are still losing hair, it's honestly sad, that they are castrating themselves for little to no gain.

 

[6ft4]

I've ran 4 Tren cycles
I think it has aged my skin but I still look fairly young after coming off

 

[KingOfRome]

OP you should just do 50 mgs of test prop every day. Or 100 mgs per day if you're the type of person who really doesn't like easing into things and prefers faster results at the cost of more suffering and risk (like me ). If this is a cutting cycle, it's probably not that long, so unless you frontload, you'll already be 1/2-1/3 of the way through your cycle by the time you get peak serum concentration levels of test if you use enanth or cyp.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

hgh will definitely speed up facial aging, but in a more rugged way than just looking old

hgh is anti aging lol