Do any of you fear about not ascending despite looksmaxing?

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I know I have a lot of things in my looksmaxing list and I believe that finishing them will help me ascend. But what if that doesn't happen? What if looksmaxing can't ascend me? Do any of you have similar thoughts?
 
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I think everyone experiences self doubt, just focus on the positive aspects of "what if" I know it sounds cringy but if you set your mind to something 9 times out of 10 it'll happen
 
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I'm in constant fear that steroids won't help me stop being a framecel when I start using them.
 
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I'm in constant fear that steroids won't help me stop being a framecel when I start using them.

Sorry if you've already told me. Whats your height/shoulder width/waist/weight/age?

That can kinda help us see what your dealing with
 
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Even if you don't ascend, people will still treat you nicer with every little improvement of looksmaxxing. This was the case 1000% with me for gymcelling.

And I'm already very sure that I will never ascend so I am not fearful of it.
 
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Even if you don't ascend, people will still treat you nicer with every little improvement of looksmaxxing. This was the case 1000% with me for gymcelling.

And I'm already very sure that I will never ascend so I am not fearful of it.
Becuz the avg bmi is fukn 27 hahaha I think it's even worse for females
 
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All of my problems can be fixed with soft looksmaxxing tbh, except my eyes and hair. Gonna aim for Elon Musk-esque hair transplant in 10 years.

OP, if you look at yourself and think looksmaxxing with make you look better then you've already ascended. Call me blue-pilled but that's two (minimum) points added to your rating
 
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All of my problems can be fixed with soft looksmaxxing tbh, except my eyes and hair. Gonna aim for Elon Musk-esque hair transplant in 10 years.

OP, if you look at yourself and think looksmaxxing with make you look better then you've already ascended. Call me blue-pilled but that's two (minimum) points added to your rating

Hmmm dont count your chickens before they hatch!

Lets say he has 2+ point which can potentially be added. Like when a DLC comes out but you have to buy it first.
 
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If I were to get surgery, I would be worried about people treating me different because of it or the surgery being botched.

When I say treating me different I mean not like strangers, but my friends and family. I'm sure they'd shun me or talk shit because:bluepill:
 
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Sorry if you've already told me. Whats your height/shoulder width/waist/weight/age?

That can kinda help us see what your dealing with

I'm kinda embarrassed to say it but my shoulder width is only 15.5 inches. The waist is 10 inches.

I'm 178cm tall. 19.5 years old.

The weight I don't know, but I'm fully skinny, I have no muscle or fat on my body.
 
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I'm kinda embarrassed to say it but my shoulder width is only 15.5 inches. The waist is 10 inches.

I'm 178cm tall. 19.5 years old.

The weight I don't know, but I'm fully skinny, I have no muscle or fat on my body.

Damn. The ratio of your shouldee:waist isnt that bad. Maybe slightly below average. Its just that both values are really small. 10" waist thats fucking crazy though. I'd say you can add 2" to each side with good gymcelling in a couple years maybe. that would put you at at least 19". You'd be good then, so its not over for you tbh.
 
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Damn. The ratio of your shouldee:waist isnt that bad. Maybe slightly below average. Its just that both values are really small. 10" waist thats fucking crazy though. I'd say you can add 2" to each side with good gymcelling in a couple years maybe. that would put you at at least 19". You'd be good then, so its not over for you tbh.

Thanks, how much do you think I can add with steroids?
 
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Thanks, how much do you think I can add with steroids?

I'll be conservative and say the same amount, but you'll get there much faster. Get to 17" first and then worry about if you'll be able to make it to 18" or 20".

It will take time, and hard work man. Expect to look amazing by 24, good by 22 with steroids I suppose and better by 20 with steroids.

Its way to early to tell how far you could potentially go right now.
 
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Wait you have 15" bideltoids at 5'10?

That's fucking insane. Are you sure you're measuring right?
 
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I'm kinda embarrassed to say it but my shoulder width is only 15.5 inches. The waist is 10 inches.

I'm 178cm tall. 19.5 years old.

The weight I don't know, but I'm fully skinny, I have no muscle or fat on my body.
Is this bideltoid or should width? They are not the same afaik
 
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Total shoulder
You mean this?

Download
 
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its impossible to not ascend if i looksmaxx to the maxx. even then if i cant ascend then i would be a mentalcel and would need to fix my mental state somewhow to become less autistic
 
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Is this bideltoid or should width? They are not the same afaik

Whats the difference between shoulder width and bideltoid width?

I measure the width by marking a pencil at each side of the shoulders and measuring horizontal distance. I got 21.5"
 
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Yea man is it bad?
I bet it is. Just the other day or the day before I was looking at bideltoid stats for men, I'm 5'7'' and 17.5 inches. And I was bottom 2-3 percentile according to the stats and felt bad. You are 5'10'' and it does feel that you are pretty skinny. You are 19, so may be there is possibility of natural growth ahead.

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You should definitely roidmaxx and gymmaxx. Just take care of your hair.
 
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I bet it is. Just the other day or the day before I was looking at bideltoid stats for men, I'm 5'7'' and 17.5 inches. And I was bottom 2-3 percentile according to the stats and felt bad. You are 5'10'' and it does feel that you are pretty skinny. You are 19, so may be there is possibility of natural growth ahead.

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You should definitely roidmaxx and gymmaxx. Just take care of your hair.

Im 20.5 inches, just measured at 6'0, that's fine right?
 
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I hope chin surgery will be enough for me lmao
 
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Yeah I am. I have already looksmaxxed for the most part, everything except facial surgery. Nothing has worked. You can't fix my eyes or my autism.
 
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Yeah I am. I have already looksmaxxed for the most part, everything except facial surgery. Nothing has worked. You can't fix my eyes or my autism.
Eyes can be fixed though. Depends what the issue is. Google Ray Taban
I hope chin surgery will be enough for me lmao
Good luck boyo
 
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Im at 21.0" to 21.5" at 6'1 with a bit of gymcelling. Espeacially on roids I think I can get to maybe 23". My waist is about 12" at 16-18% body fat.
I hope chin surgery will be enough for me lmao

Ya
Im 20.5 inches, just measured at 6'0, that's fine right?

Yeah thats not bad at all man. Above average I think.
 
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I'll probably go up .5 or 1 point if I can get in my best form, I'm currently 5'10 and weigh 50kgs. I'm nothing but bones and flesh. I have shit eye area, that haunts me the most also shit tier lower third. Right now, my plan is to take care of my skin and get in shape. If I'm still unsatisfied in 5 years once I'm done with college, I'll consider surgery. I hope I don't go down that route lol.

I have to ascend from ugly shitskin hindu cope level to Sikh Jatt Masterrace status
 
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I don't even need to LooksMaxx to ascend judging by past experiences with girls. Getting NT should be enough
 
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I don't even need to LooksMaxx to ascend judging by past experiences with girls. Getting NT should be enough

Being okay with foids and slaying foids are two different things which will provide you with two different outlooks on life.

Take it from me, im on the upper level of being okay with foids, and I cant help but think how much better I would be if I slayed foids like chad and shit.

And I'm sure there are Incel here who might look at me being okay with foids and want to be that as opposed to non-existent to foids and feel the same way.

Once you start being okay with foids, - you'll wanna start slaying foids
 
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Damn. The ratio of your shouldee:waist isnt that bad. Maybe slightly below average. Its just that both values are really small. 10" waist thats fucking crazy though. I'd say you can add 2" to each side with good gymcelling in a couple years maybe. that would put you at at least 19". You'd be good then, so its not over for you tbh.
I started out with average shoulder width, then gymcelling and puberty put me at 21.5...and clavicles are last growth plates to close, so both of us could actually grow more, especially you since you're on gear
Being okay with foids and slaying foids are two different things which will provide you with two different outlooks on life.

Take it from me, im on the upper level of being okay with foids, and I cant help but think how much better I would be if I slayed foids like chad and shit.

And I'm sure there are Incel here who might look at me being okay with foids and want to be that as opposed to non-existent to foids and feel the same way.

Once you start being okay with foids, - you'll wanna start slaying foids
Slaying really ain't worth it bro. Just get a relationship where you're loved, validated, and worshipped
 
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Honestly what I fear the most Is looksmaxxing and still not being able to land a pretty girl or a looksmatch and having to conform with a landwhale or ugly girl
 
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Honestly what I fear the most Is looksmaxxing and still not being able to land a pretty girl or a looksmatch and having to conform with a landwhale or ugly girl

Bro landwhales are the best man everyone knows that. Landwhales are actually whales that Chads don't think they can attain.
 
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And I'm already very sure that I will never ascend so I am not fearful of it.

what makes you sure you won't ascend?
 
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All the time. However I'll still do it so I look semi way decent when I go outside.
 
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how old r u mate?

32. So it probably is over for me. Agecel.
Silence. Don't worry. I know it's over for me in the romance world. Just see to myself so I don't become or melt into a huge puddle of fat after my bones deteriorate & decay.
 
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Yeah I am. I have already looksmaxxed for the most part, everything except facial surgery. Nothing has worked. You can't fix my eyes or my autism.

Colored contacts can help with your eyes, alongside other things. Therapy can help with the symptoms of Autism.
32. So it probably is over for me. Agecel.
Silence. Don't worry. I know it's over for me in the romance world. Just see to myself so I don't become or melt into a huge puddle of fat after my bones deteriorate & decay.

In quite a few studies, men that are older 30+ are considered more desirable. This is likely due to financial status, alongside other characteristics. I don't think it's over for you unless you want it to be.
 
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In quite a few studies, men that are older 30+ are considered more desirable. This is likely due to financial status, alongside other characteristics. I don't think it's over for you unless you want it to be.

Thanks. GymMaxx, careermax (I'm in accountancy working as a Company Accountant now), Studymax for my careermax and then socialgamemax.

Tbh. I just feel knackered by it all really. Ngl.
 
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Thanks. GymMaxx, careermax (I'm in accountancy working as a Company Accountant now), Studymax for my careermax and then socialgamemax.

Tbh. I just feel knackered by it all really. Ngl.

It's a fuck ton of effort. What's your relationship goals? Are you currently dating, with someone, ect?
 
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It's a fuck ton of effort. What's your relationship goals? Are you currently dating, with someone, ect?

Single. Incel. Only ever Escortcelled.
 
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When's the last time you asked someone out?

2.5 years back. She wanted to go as friends with another. I wanted to go with her.

No woman has ever viewed me nor will they as more than just a friend.
 
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2.5 years back. She wanted to go as friends with another. I wanted to go with her.

No woman has ever viewed me nor will they as more than just a friend.

Look, I'm not gonna shame you into doing something you don't want to do. But the dating scene is really tough for men, they need to make the approach. If you like someone, throw a feeler by asking if they want to get a cup of coffee sometime. If they say no, then try with someone else. If that's too much work, then move on with your life and do things that make YOU happy, not what you think women find attractive. You're not Chad, so stop trying to be one. Just my two cents.
 
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Look, I'm not gonna shame you into doing something you don't want to do. But the dating scene is really tough for men, they need to make the approach. If you like someone, throw a feeler by asking if they want to get a cup of coffee sometime. If they say no, then try with someone else. If that's too much work, then move on with your life and do things that make YOU happy, not what you think women find attractive. You're not Chad, so stop trying to be one. Just my two cents.

I know you mean well and thanks for the :blackpill: advice. However the Fear Of Missing Out and the yearning for a female romantic partner is quite something. Tell you that. I'm not Chad neither am I trying to be one. I'm a normal human being. I expect to be treated as a normal human being with the same wants and desires as everybody else.
 
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I bet it is. Just the other day or the day before I was looking at bideltoid stats for men, I'm 5'7'' and 17.5 inches. And I was bottom 2-3 percentile according to the stats and felt bad. You are 5'10'' and it does feel that you are pretty skinny. You are 19, so may be there is possibility of natural growth ahead.

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You should definitely roidmaxx and gymmaxx. Just take care of your hair.

Weird chart. Every US population median I've seen comes out to 18.5". At 19.5", I certainly feel above the 50th percentile, especially since, following these data, I'd probably look like a framelet at 6'3", which I don't.

http://personal.cityu.edu.hk/~meachan/Online Anthropometry/Chapter2/Ch2-17.htm
 
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Colored contacts can help with your eyes, alongside other things. Therapy can help with the symptoms of Autism.


In quite a few studies, men that are older 30+ are considered more desirable. This is likely due to financial status, alongside other characteristics. I don't think it's over for you unless you want it to be.
I already have blue eyes, which supposedly give me an advantage. What I mean by eyes is that my eyes are way too close togther. They're basically pushed up against my nose. Additionally, I have a bit of NCT and my eyes are super deep in my sockets. I have the eye area of a retarded Chinese man.

I have tried therapy 3 times with no notable results.
 
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I already have blue eyes, which supposedly give me an advantage. What I mean by eyes is that my eyes are way too close togther. They're basically pushed up against my nose. Additionally, I have a bit of NCT and my eyes are super deep in my sockets. I have the eye area of a retarded Chinese man.

I have tried therapy 3 times with no notable results.

That's not how therapy works. You're expecting to deal with decades of your past in a few sessions. That being said, you're enough of an adult to make that judgement call on your own.

Yeah, if that's the case with your eyes, you don't have many options besides surgery.
 
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