Do any of you get IOI's?

Can you show me in PMs what you look like? I’m curious. That said, I’m not entirely sold on the idea that women are more lookist than they were before. It’s because most couples I see are looksmatched, they’re rarely not looksmatched, from my experience.
I spoke to him on my old account. Never saw him but I think he’s a mulatto HTN
 
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I don't believe in that.

If a girl likes you enough she will just ask you out.

Or at least get her friend to.
That’s kind of the point of IOIs. Women aren’t the first to approach (usually), the ones who don’t do this are prone to showing IOIs. Women fear getting rejected more than anything else.
 
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I used to get a lot of very obvious IOI's now I barely get any

My health got fucked up though so I stopped looksmaxxing and only do the bare minimum to level of looksmaxxing to remain presentable in the meantime so that's my excuse

But I'm curious if any of you get IOI's because even though my looks have taken a hit I still feel like the level of attention I get has dropped precipitously and more than reasonable considering my looks

I'm curious if women are just giving out less IOI's in general nowadays to everyone

Lmk your thoughts :unsure:
Same here I do get IOIs tho, just depends where you live
 
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Nah that's bullshit.

I've both witnessed and received enough.
Lol IOI's are bullshit? Just goes to show niggas on the internet will argue over anything
IOI's are real I'm not going to debate you on this
 
Women aren’t the first to approach
From what I've observed, many girls will ask out first.

But it could be different in Europe where you are.
 
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I used to slay easily with way lower SMV back in 2022-2023

Then after 2024 dating apps because a flake fest for me and stopped getting iois
What changed?
 
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From what I've observed, many girls will ask out first.

But it could be different in Europe where you are.
Usually, these women would likely be women you see frequently, right? It wouldn’t be female strangers you see out in the streets. I think.
 
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Usually, these women would likely be women you see frequently, right? It wouldn’t be female strangers you see out in the streets. I think.
Yeah at least in the same school.

But I mean, that's still relevant to the discussion.
 
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Yeah at least in the same school.

But I mean, that's still relevant to the discussion.
I actually don’t register them as IOIs if done by classmates or colleagues. I think they’re just being nice, you know? It’s kind of strange to be making eye contact with a random guy you see outside, or to be smiling at him… at least, that’s the case here, so when that does happen, I register it as an IOI.
 
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I actually don’t register them as IOIs if done by classmates or colleagues. I think they’re just being nice, you know? It’s kind of strange to be making eye contact with a random guy you see outside, or to be smiling at him… at least, that’s the case here, so when that does happen, I register it as an IOI.
No I meant in terms of girls asking guys out.

As I said, I don't believe in IOI.

Or at least obsessing over whether they happened.
 
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What changed?
Dating apps and social media

In 2022 I was going to the bars every weekend and talking to a minimum of 10 girls a night

Then after 2023 dating apps became the main way to meet people and people stopped going out

The bars were literally dead when I tried to go

Dating apps are all about :blackpill::blackpill:

So now even good looking guys get ghosted and flaked on @edodalic29 @Amnesia

Now in 2025 it’s even worse because dating apps are getting more saturated

When a girl has access to 100s of chadlites, influencers, and celebrities on dating apps and IG with a swipe of her phone why would she give IOIs to the random good looking guy on the street?
 
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No I meant in terms of girls asking guys out.

As I said, I don't believe in IOI.

Or at least obsessing over whether they happened.
Right, but even sometimes female strangers will approach guys here and ask for their social media. That’s called an approach here.
 
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I spoke to him on my old account. Never saw him but I think he’s a mulatto HTN
I was low CL but I'm HTN rn

I've modeled, was getting approached by women, slayed, called handsome and pretty, etc and constant IOI's from women of all ages

That's why I say low CL btw, I don't think that's standard HTN treatment. Never been rated here though, too high inhib to show anyone my face
 
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Dating apps and social media

In 2022 I was going to the bars every weekend and talking to a minimum of 10 girls a night

Then after 2023 dating apps became the main way to meet people and people stopped going out

The bars were literally dead when I tried to go

Dating apps are all about :blackpill::blackpill:

So now even good looking guys get ghosted and flaked on @edodalic29 @Amnesia

Now in 2025 it’s even worse because dating apps are getting more saturated

When a girl has access to 100s of chadlites, influencers, and celebrities on dating apps and IG with a swipe of her phone why would she give IOIs to the random good looking guy on the street?
Edo bhai mentioned. 🗣️❤️
 
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I was low CL but I'm HTN rn

I've modeled, was getting approached by women, slayed, called handsome and pretty, etc and constant IOI's from women of all ages

That's why I say low CL btw, I don't think that's standard HTN treatment. Never been rated here though, too high inhib to show anyone my face
I think you are over rating yourself you’re most likely above avg but not above htn

Edit: nvm if you’ve modeled then prob but I’d need to see pics to rate
 
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Can you show me in PMs what you look like? I’m curious. That said, I’m not entirely sold on the idea that women are more lookist than they were before. It’s because most couples I see are looksmatched, they’re rarely not looksmatched, from my experience.
I'm too high inhib to show my face on here :feelshehe: but yeah I do see a good amount of looksmatched couples. Still the treatment from single women is quite strange.
 
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I'm too high inhib to show my face on here :feelshehe: but yeah I do see a good amount of looksmatched couples. Still the treatment from single women is quite strange.
It’s gonna be over for anyone sub Chadlite soon

I had to get 5 surgeries to keep up with the dating market hypergamy @AscensionMan98 @SecularIslamist
 
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the only IOIs i get as a 30 yo virgin are now from 30-50 yo who call me handsome. i was at the grocery store, and an old lady said "you must be popular with the ladies". i said "thank you but im 30 and a virgin". then she laughed and i walked away
 
I think you are over rating yourself you’re most likely above avg but not above htn

Edit: nvm if you’ve modeled then prob but I’d need to see pics to rate
Maybe but I judge based on my results.

I've modeled because people had told me constantly I should model. Even at my last job one of the first things the manager asked me is if I model and I wasn't even looksmaxxed because it was the beginning of my health issues and I had fallen off my routines.

Slaying was easy and I would get tons of messages by girls asking if I was a catfish or saying things like "you're not real"

I've had multiple women approach me in public and ask for my number or make advances on me

I was getting told I'm GL or handsome, or pretty a lot by strangers or told I should be an actor

I've modeled but no serious runway stuff just a lot of castings for products and photoshoots for magazines

Got cast to audition for a popular looks based reality TV show

Was with an agency

Idk there could be more examples

I'm not trying to gas myself up or anything I don't even think I look that spectacular but I'm just stating the facts and this isn't what I've heard is typical for HTN rating but is more typical of CL
 
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It’s gonna be over for anyone sub Chadlite soon

I had to get 5 surgeries to keep up with the dating market hypergamy @AscensionMan98 @SecularIslamist
tbf chadlite is like 0.001 percent of people
 
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Maybe but I judge based on my results.

I've modeled because people had told me constantly I should model. Even at my last job one of the first things the manager asked me is if I model and I wasn't even looksmaxxed because it was the beginning of my health issues and I had fallen off my routines.

Slaying was easy and I would get tons of messages by girls asking if I was a catfish or saying things like "you're not real"

I've had multiple women approach me in public and ask for my number or make advances on me

I was getting told I'm GL or handsome, or pretty a lot by strangers or told I should be an actor

I've modeled but no serious runway stuff just a lot of castings for products and photoshoots for magazines

Got cast to audition for a popular looks based reality TV show

Was with an agency

Idk there could be more examples

I'm not trying to gas myself up or anything I don't even think I look that spectacular but I'm just stating the facts and this isn't what I've heard is typical for HTN rating but is more typical of CL
I believe you

But regardless the dating market is getting fucked

dating apps are getting super saturated it’s hard to stand out now
 
I'm too high inhib to show my face on here :feelshehe: but yeah I do see a good amount of looksmatched couples. Still the treatment from single women is quite strange.
It seems you’ve posted your face before. Are you highinhibmaxxing? :feelshmm:
 
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Dating apps and social media

In 2022 I was going to the bars every weekend and talking to a minimum of 10 girls a night

Then after 2023 dating apps became the main way to meet people and people stopped going out

The bars were literally dead when I tried to go

Dating apps are all about :blackpill::blackpill:

So now even good looking guys get ghosted and flaked on @edodalic29 @Amnesia

Now in 2025 it’s even worse because dating apps are getting more saturated

When a girl has access to 100s of chadlites, influencers, and celebrities on dating apps and IG with a swipe of her phone why would she give IOIs to the random good looking guy on the street?
@Gengar Thisbisbthe reason why
 
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Dating apps and social media

In 2022 I was going to the bars every weekend and talking to a minimum of 10 girls a night

Then after 2023 dating apps became the main way to meet people and people stopped going out

The bars were literally dead when I tried to go

Dating apps are all about :blackpill::blackpill:

So now even good looking guys get ghosted and flaked on @edodalic29 @Amnesia

Now in 2025 it’s even worse because dating apps are getting more saturated

When a girl has access to 100s of chadlites, influencers, and celebrities on dating apps and IG with a swipe of her phone why would she give IOIs to the random good looking guy on the street?
Yeah this is literally my thinking

I'm thinking that the level of guy these women are getting exposed to is starting to have a real impact on how they treat men irl

Even typical good looking guys are no longer exciting enough you have to be maxed to even get an IOI from a Becky nowadays
 
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It seems you’ve posted your face before. Are you highinhibmaxxing? :feelshmm:
I've posted my brow bone before you will have to use your imagination for the rest :feelshmm:
 
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It’s gonna be over for anyone sub Chadlite soon

I had to get 5 surgeries to keep up with the dating market hypergamy @AscensionMan98 @SecularIslamist
You gotta do what you gotta do

What surgeries?
 
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Are you still stuck with the illness btw or doing better? Hope you got better dude
 
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I don’t think I’ve seen that.
I am mulatto HTN-LCL

I get compared to the singer Maxwell or Lenny Kravits and most recently Jeremiah from Love Island US if you're curious but he mogs me I think
 
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Are you still stuck with the illness btw or doing better? Hope you got better dude
Doing slightly better but it's hard to tell if things will definitively improve. There's been gradual improvement in the sense I am more active but I'm still quite hindered in my ability to do anything really intensive physically or mentally.
 
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Have you tried roiding or surgeries? It might be necessary with the hypergamy now
 
Have you tried roiding or surgeries? It might be necessary with the hypergamy now
No roiding with my health the way it is because I can't go to the gym but I plan on getting surgeries to fix some flaws in my eye area. It's weird because I do believe I look more like a HTN but I got treatment that was more in line with a CL so I think I'm just on the border and some minor surgeries can help push me over the edge.

Idk if I would ever roid though. I would have to learn more about it to know if it's worth it. However I'm quite decided on surgeries.
 
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No roiding with my health the way it is because I can't go to the gym but I plan on getting surgeries to fix some flaws in my eye area. It's weird because I do believe I look more like a HTN but I got treatment that was more in line with a CL so I think I'm just on the border and some minor surgeries can help push me over the edge.

Idk if I would ever roid though. I would have to learn more about it to know if it's worth it. However I'm quite decided on surgeries.
Get Cantho and infras I can show my results dm
 
i get ioi's every time i look in the mirror. just start straight tongue punching the fuck out of the fluorescently lit bathroom mirror with maximum efficiency #sorrynotsorry :cautious:✌️
 
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