Do blackpilled users really think the average 4PSL man has no chance in modern dating?

[Graham]

Many blackpillers exaggerate the importance of looks online on places like YouTube, in order to provide some form of comedic effect, however I have noticed that this seems to be given more credence on online forums, saying that it's going to be impossible for your average looking male to get a girlfriend.

I guess I'm making this because I want to see how many people genuinely believe that this is the case, or if its just exaggeration because its just a funny running joke.

I do have another theory, that being most people who are blackpilled online are average looking, but also autistic, therefore are more predisposed to spend their time isolated online, and will claim that dating is impossible for the average looking men now, simply because they can't get a girlfriend - ignoring the biggest factor against them, which is their autism.

I remember a few years ago FACEandLMS having subscribers call in, and he was getting frustrated as most of them were apparently average looking and claiming to be incel, which angered FACE, who said they can't be incel from their looks as they're average.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Chad or Death in 2023, coming from a weak chadlite for my country

 

[HarrierDuBois]

DNRD but 4 PSL is enough to stand a chance.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

DNRD but 4 PSL is enough to stand a chance.

No

 

[Graham]

Chad or Death in 2023, coming from a weak chadlite for my country

I'm a normie NPC I can't tell if you're serious or not

 

[Deleted member 24444]

I'm a normie NPC I can't tell if you're serious or not

Dead serious

 

[HarrierDuBois]

No

I am below MTN with side profile included and I have gotten cold approached before and invited to parties by countless girls.

 

[Graham]

Dead serious

OK, I assume some of that is based from experience due to you referring to yourself as a "chadlite", does that mean you can get girls and your average friends can't, or do you mean that you can't, therefore they wouldn't stand a chance?

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Cope harder OP,

63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

OK, I assume some of that is based from experience due to you referring to yourself as a "chadlite", does that mean you can get girls and your average friends can't, or do you mean that you can't, therefore they wouldn't stand a chance?

You are either top 10 looking guys in your country or you can’t compete, therefore I’m planning 3 surgeries + wear 4 inch lifts + do every single softmax possible

 

[Graham]

I am below MTN with side profile included and I have gotten cold approached before and invited to parties by countless girls.

I've had this exact experience before (4 PSL, although IRL been told 7 to 8/10, and a full 10 if she is crushing on me), which is why this online stuff is so confusing to me. I think I'll make a thread about this tomorrow sometime.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I've had this exact experience before (4 PSL, although IRL been told 7 to 8/10, and a full 10 if she is crushing on me), which is why this online stuff is so confusing to me. I think I'll make a thread about this tomorrow sometime.

Tag me in it. Irl presence is a real factor to be included since I get treated better than I deserve for my looks.

 

[Graham]

Cope harder OP,

63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group.

What does that mean in NPC normie terms? I guess I'm going off anecdotal experiance.

 

[agoostis]

depends if nt or not

 

[twilight]

it's going to be impossible for your average looking male to get a girlfriend.

nobody is saying you can't get this as a normie, but generally people on this forum know that having a girlfriend as a sub chadlite/strong htn is basically entering you into cuck town, you will never get the primal sex like a chad would get, she knows she smv mogs you so you will be forced to do everything she asks, she will cheat on you one way or another, it is what it is, just ascend.

 

[Graham]

depends if nt or not

Yes, I think being NT gives a massive advantage, and I that's part of my hypothesis on why looks get over exaggerated, because many online blackpillers are autistic, therefore you need more of a looks advantage to compete with an average NT male.

 

[Graham]

nobody is saying you can't get this as a normie, but generally people on this forum know that having a girlfriend as a sub chadlite/strong htn is basically entering you into cuck town, you will never get the primal sex like a chad would get, she knows she smv mogs you so you will be forced to do everything she asks, she will cheat on you one way or another, it is what it is, just ascend.

I should've clarified, I mean getting a girlfriend, but not having to be a massivecuck or pay for everything. Like surely an average guy can still get an average girlfriend without having to be a walking wallet / house servant?

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Yes, I think being NT gives a massive advantage, and I that's part of my hypothesis on why looks get over exaggerated, because many online blackpillers are autistic, therefore you need more of a looks advantage to compete with an average NT male.

You can get some becky as a sub chad but it’s not all about getting muh muh wimin , it’s just the treatment that chad gets, it’s 115 octane ropefuel if you witness it

 

[twilight]

Like surely an average guy can still get an average girlfriend without having to be a walking wallet / house servant?

the average guy can definitely get a gf without intrinsicly just being a complete soycuck betabux but that vibe will always be present in the back of her mind, she knows she can download tinder and find a chadlite that very night so she expects you to be a beta bux who worships her feet to some degree, i recommend filling out a niche that attracts a girl from said niche because that increases the chances of her REALLY liking you and decreases her going after basic chads

 

[Graham]

You can get some becky as a sub chad but it’s not all about getting muh muh wimin , it’s just the treatment that chad gets, it’s 115 octane ropefuel if you witness it

So would you say that a lot of blackpill looksmaxing is about becoming a "Chad" and not being able to get an average looking / slightly above average looking woman in a healthy relationship?

 

[Brus Wane]

I know this thread probably means well but let's face it.
Male viriginity rates are rising and modern men are struggling in the sexual market place.
This problem goes beyond just North America but in some parts of Europe and Asia too.
Are all the guys with this issue autistic or isolated? I'm sure most are 4-6/10 but still can't ascend for the various reasons discussed on this site ad nauseum.
I'm not saying it's over for 4PSL or 5/10 SMV guys but unless they have a niche to them to make them stand out, they're gonna suffer and struggle hard.

 

[Deleted member 17997]

Can you slay on tinder? Can you slay at a bar/club? For most men its no. That leaves relationships through social circles. Better than nothing though.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

So would you say that a lot of blackpill looksmaxing is about becoming a "Chad" and not being able to get an average looking / slightly above average looking woman in a healthy relationship?

Idk at least for me. I get 100 likes in 4 days while Austin Dunham gets 300 likes a day. You just can’t win as sub chad

 

[Deleted member 24235]

Chad or Death in 2023, coming from a weak chadlite for my country

yea but the average white man is a chad in ur 3rd world shithole

 

[Deleted member 24444]

yea but the average white man is a chad in ur 3rd world shithole

Are you sure? There are a lot of white men here

 

[Graham]

the average guy can definitely get a gf without intrinsicly just being a complete soycuck betabux but that vibe will always be present in the back of her mind, she knows she can download tinder and find a chadlite that very night so she expects you to be a beta bux who worships her feet to some degree, i recommend filling out a niche that attracts a girl from said niche because that increases the chances of her REALLY liking you and decreases her going after basic chads

Interesting, so its like a subconscious power dynamic in favor of the woman. That must be quite an insecure feeling for an average man if they're thinking about it that way. I presume they mustn't already know this otherwise they wouldn't be in a relationship right?

 

[Deleted member 24235]

Are you sure? There are a lot of white men here

ur in philippines right?

 

[Deleted member 24444]

ur in philippines right?

Nigga I’m in Kazakhstan which is at least 30% Russian.

 

[rand anon]

depends if nt or not

 

[Blackgymmax]

Usually yes. Hardly stands a chance

 

[rand anon]

@mrriceguy swallow the NTpill

 

[Graham]

I know this thread probably means well but let's face it.
Male viriginity rates are rising and modern men are struggling in the sexual market place.
This problem goes beyond just North America but in some parts of Europe and Asia too.
Are all the guys with this issue autistic or isolated? I'm sure most are 4-6/10 but still can't ascend for the various reasons discussed on this site ad nauseum.
I'm not saying it's over for 4PSL or 5/10 SMV guys but unless they have a niche to them to make them stand out, they're gonna suffer and struggle hard.

That is interesting, and my first NPC response would be, "what if a lot of them are in relationships, but are waiting to have sex later?", but then a previous user posted results showing that most men aren't in relationships, which then proves the sex stuff, but doesn't make sense in a relation ship way.

Does that mean they are all in polygamous relationships with top-tier men? If so, why do they go online an make videos crying about unfaithful men if they're in a relationship? Do they just not break up after the cheating?

Then lastly, why does the top to points make statistical sense but IRL I don't see the same thing play out?

 

[Blackgymmax]

But its not really exaggerated w dating stats. What is exaggerated is the term "autism". As dating and hypergamy has become worse, the term autism has been thrown around more and more as an excuse for guys lacking the smv to get w women. Guys don't have autism. They have the same social skills as always and womens social skills are basically way worse since they never have to approach and are bombared from dudes online. When people start throwing around the word "autism", thats how i know the black pill is hitting. Thats not real bro its that women are expecting more LMS to compensate because they have so many guys online. Im sick of you idiot subhumans speaking of social skills when im doing just fine still with plain boring conversations.

 

[Graham]

But its not really exaggerated w dating stats. What is exaggerated is the term "autism". As dating and hypergamy has become worse, the term autism has been thrown around more and more as an excuse for guys lacking the smv to get w women. Guys don't have autism. They have the same social skills as always and womens social skills are basically way worse since they never have to approach and are bombared from dudes online.

Ah OK, so would an average looking guy with average social skills have more SMV than an above average looking guy with below average social skills (but isn't autistic)?

 

[Blackgymmax]

Ah OK, so would an average looking guy with average social skills have more SMV than an above average looking guy with below average social skills (but isn't autistic)?

Obviously not. Im #2 and no normie black guy will outslay me.

 

[NFA PB]

autism hold us 4psl niggas down

 

[Deleted member 25056]

There are more non-nt people and people who haven't met their full potential in this day and age.

 

[Blackgymmax]

autism hold us 4psl niggas down

Its always social skills isnt it? It cant just be "she has better options than me "

 

[NFA PB]

Its always social skills isnt it? It cant just be "she has better options than me "

autism and she has better options is holding us 4 psl niggas down

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Its always social skills isnt it? It cant just be "she has better options than me "

This, you are either white, 6’5 millionaire chad or you have to settle for landwhales who weigh as much as Harley Davidson and who will treat you like shit

 

[justadude]

there is a difference between slaying a new chick every few weeks and dating. an average but social guy can get a gf, it wont be easy tho. This site is full of socially inept people (myself included) who think girls dont want them solely because they arent chad.
reality is girls dont want you because you have nothing to offer. the least you could do as an average guy is not be an autist and you might just have a chance

tldr - average and autistic = beyond over. average and social = might have a chance at getting a gf

 

[Iblamejordan]

Chad or Death in 2023, coming from a weak chadlite for my country

Your country has many chance to date I think. Your country has more women than men

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Your country has many chance to date I think. Your country has more women than men

And all look like shit:

Rate Kazakh wimin on Tinder

One minute of swiping, not a single GL chick @the BULL @cloUder @St.TikTokcel @TRUE_CEL @HarrierDuBois

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 23865]

in online dating, yes, an avg looking male is completely invisible. but not irl

 

[longjohnmong]

"PSL"

 

[Deleted member 23865]

most blackpilled incels who post on incel forums are actually average or slightly below average looking (LTN-MTN) who believe they can't get a gf bc they aren't attractive enough when they're actually mentalcels who would ascend with NT maxxing. that's why there are so many incels claiming that it's over if you're avg looking.

I knew it was over for me once I realized this, because unlike most incels, my issue is actually being physically unattractive (5'5)

 

[Deleted member 24444]

most blackpilled incels who post on incel forums are actually average or slightly below average looking (LTN-MTN) who believe they can't get a gf bc they aren't attractive enough when they're actually mentalcels who would ascend with NT maxxing. that's why there are so many incels claiming that it's over if you're avg looking.

I knew it was over for me once I realized this, because unlike most incels, my issue is actually being physically unattractive (5'5)

Ok pajeet

 

[Blackgymmax]

Your country has many chance to date I think. Your country has more women than men

Sup jordan, hope you hate blacks as much as i do

 

[Deleted member 22191]

Many blackpillers exaggerate the importance of looks online on places like YouTube, in order to provide some form of comedic effect, however I have noticed that this seems to be given more credence on online forums, saying that it's going to be impossible for your average looking male to get a girlfriend.

I guess I'm making this because I want to see how many people genuinely believe that this is the case, or if its just exaggeration because its just a funny running joke.

I do have another theory, that being most people who are blackpilled online are average looking, but also autistic, therefore are more predisposed to spend their time isolated online, and will claim that dating is impossible for the average looking men now, simply because they can't get a girlfriend - ignoring the biggest factor against them, which is their autism.

I remember a few years ago FACEandLMS having subscribers call in, and he was getting frustrated as most of them were apparently average looking and claiming to be incel, which angered FACE, who said they can't be incel from their looks as they're average.

chad or death. Normie gets nothing

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Sup jordan, hope you hate blacks as much as i do

He does