Do blackpilled users really think the average 4PSL man has no chance in modern dating?

[justgetacutbro]

Many blackpillers exaggerate the importance of looks online on places like YouTube, in order to provide some form of comedic effect, however I have noticed that this seems to be given more credence on online forums, saying that it's going to be impossible for your average looking male to get a girlfriend.

I guess I'm making this because I want to see how many people genuinely believe that this is the case, or if its just exaggeration because its just a funny running joke.

I do have another theory, that being most people who are blackpilled online are average looking, but also autistic, therefore are more predisposed to spend their time isolated online, and will claim that dating is impossible for the average looking men now, simply because they can't get a girlfriend - ignoring the biggest factor against them, which is their autism.

I remember a few years ago FACEandLMS having subscribers call in, and he was getting frustrated as most of them were apparently average looking and claiming to be incel, which angered FACE, who said they can't be incel from their looks as they're average.

Depend. Jestermaxxing and getting settled for? Sure! Go right ahead! But to think she’ll admire you and actually want you? Yea good luck with that

thoughts? @whiteissuperior

 

[Geoff2024]

I am below MTN with side profile included and I have gotten cold approached before and invited to parties by countless girls.

Underestimating yourself mb

 

[looksforlife]

Everyone who’s not a basement dweller knows looks aren’t the only factor

 

[thereallegend]

4 PSL isn't average. It's HTN. HTN = top 20% already

 

[p0lishsubhuman]

Average normie has a big chance of ending up in a relationship where the girl doesn't respect him and flirts with other dudes, then finally breaks up/cheats on him (seen it first hand)

 

[Fynasids dk]

Many blackpillers exaggerate the importance of looks online on places like YouTube, in order to provide some form of comedic effect, however I have noticed that this seems to be given more credence on online forums, saying that it's going to be impossible for your average looking male to get a girlfriend.

I guess I'm making this because I want to see how many people genuinely believe that this is the case, or if its just exaggeration because its just a funny running joke.

I do have another theory, that being most people who are blackpilled online are average looking, but also autistic, therefore are more predisposed to spend their time isolated online, and will claim that dating is impossible for the average looking men now, simply because they can't get a girlfriend - ignoring the biggest factor against them, which is their autism.

I remember a few years ago FACEandLMS having subscribers call in, and he was getting frustrated as most of them were apparently average looking and claiming to be incel, which angered FACE, who said they can't be incel from their looks as they're average.

Face wasn't an incel either he had hookups from some pua shits back in the day when he had meet up with fellow incels and many more

 

[BeenLMSsinceMSN]

Many blackpillers exaggerate the importance of looks online on places like YouTube, in order to provide some form of comedic effect, however I have noticed that this seems to be given more credence on online forums, saying that it's going to be impossible for your average looking male to get a girlfriend.

I guess I'm making this because I want to see how many people genuinely believe that this is the case, or if its just exaggeration because its just a funny running joke.

I do have another theory, that being most people who are blackpilled online are average looking, but also autistic, therefore are more predisposed to spend their time isolated online, and will claim that dating is impossible for the average looking men now, simply because they can't get a girlfriend - ignoring the biggest factor against them, which is their autism.

I remember a few years ago FACEandLMS having subscribers call in, and he was getting frustrated as most of them were apparently average looking and claiming to be incel, which angered FACE, who said they can't be incel from their looks as they're average.

If he has a social circle yes nowadays if you aren’t a Chad in online dating you will be incel without social circle

 

[ripcordgod1]

nobody gives a shit if u can get 1 girl attracted to you we want to walk around and be stared at like we're greek gods

 

[floppa]

Its always social skills isnt it? It cant just be "she has better options than me "

Let us sub 4psl niggas cope in peace bro

 

[Deleted member 23209]

If you’re a MTN/ Average dude and you act normal, yes you can get a girlfriend. Thing is we want to be more than average and when you’re on this forum all day and your brain is rotting, it makes it harder

The people here want to looksmaxx until they look like a God and have women thirsting for them and staring at them drooling. I’m not sure that most of the people on here just simply want a girlfriend. They want more of a specialty model Godlike treatment from all the girls around them. There’s a reason why they jerk off Chico and all these other dudes. That’s who they wish they were. So either be an average dude who’s calm to get a girl who’s your match or below your match or get to Chad and keep autism.

 

[fogdart]

At 4psl you can easily get a girlfriend and even slay ethnics if you’re white but 4psl ethnic in the west you need other things going for you like height, body, NT halo, sex appeal etc to get a gf.

 

[lebronjames23]

Lots of guys can get a GF if nt, but they might not respect them tbh. I have multiple LTN friends with girls. Ofc they aren’t stacies but most “incels” are volcels or are just socially autistic

Looks are very important for consistently slaying though (1 quality lay a week)

 

[lebronjames23]

If you’re a MTN/ Average dude and you act normal, yes you can get a girlfriend. Thing is we want to be more than average and when you’re on this forum all day and your brain is rotting, it makes it harder

The people here want to looksmaxx until they look like a God and have women thirsting for them and staring at them drooling. I’m not sure that most of the people on here just simply want a girlfriend. They want more of a specialty model Godlike treatment from all the girls around them. There’s a reason why they jerk off Chico and all these other dudes. That’s who they wish they were. So either be an average dude who’s calm to get a girl who’s your match or below your match or get to Chad and keep autism.

Exactly I could always get a girl personally before looksmaxxing - just takes autistic jestermaxxing and waiting more dates. And the girl not being as invested as I was

I looksmaxxed so I could slay pick up girls from clubs , get heaps of matches and fuck girls first date and get a high lay count + the dopamine of mogging other guys and slaying

 

[LOST]

nobody is saying you can't get this as a normie, but generally people on this forum know that having a girlfriend as a sub chadlite/strong htn is basically entering you into cuck town, you will never get the primal sex like a chad would get, she knows she smv mogs you so you will be forced to do everything she asks, she will cheat on you one way or another, it is what it is, just ascend.

Sadly most chads in looks are born like this, and only get raw good sex first times they date a hoe cause they dont have any masculine trait in behavior, they re skinny or not enough tall and never needed to learn about female psychology.
Self made chadlites or HTN usually (except some retardeds of this forum) had the need to learn other skills and develop themselves as real men who made them more succesfull in LTR.

Your theory is shit.
OFC if you are really below average u can have problems long term

 

[Blackgymmax]

Sadly most chads in looks are born like this, and only get raw good sex first times they date a hoe cause they dont have any masculine trait in behavior, they re skinny or not enough tall and never needed to learn about female psychology.
Self made chadlites or HTN usually (except some retardeds of this forum) had the need to learn other skills and develop themselves as real men who made them more succesfull in LTR.

Your theory is shit.
OFC if you are really below average u can have problems long term

You dont need any self development to be successful in an LTR. it just comes down to the woman. Its a 2 way street. Its always better to look better as you can get away with much more

 

[Deleted member 22924]

averag men is a death sentence tall htn or chadlite is where life starts

 

[Blackgymmax]

I just cringe when people talk about being NT etc. When you are attractive, you just exist and attract women. When you arent, you dont. Im happy to have seen the looks spectrum from being a 0 to attractive because you dont really know how it is until youvexperience it all for yourself. I understand why you people cope, because when you dont have the lms its terrifying how women can quickly switch up on you. Remember women, and i mean NO WOMEN are your friends

 

[Lawton88]

If a 4 PSL in his 20s catches himself single in the west he will have hell. His looksmatch is usually convinced they can land a tall HTN at least eventually for LTR.

 

[LOST]

What aim you have for dating?
If looking for a girlfriend depends on what age u want it, and what kind of women u want.
Most men who are not completely deformed can have a GF, but sometimes u need to check your standards.

If you are 4PSL (full looksmaxed) develop a fucking personality and be masculine and you will have a gf 100%.
Will she leave? NO CHAD OR GIGA CHAD can ever say one girl will always stay with them, so imagine a normie.
Thats why IMO, ALL MEN DATING TO MARRY OR LTR SHOULD FIND A TRADWIFE. Rest of women can dump you easy and will be all but masculine.
Good looking people with no masculine dominance will get GF that will dominate them and make their lives THE WORST (end up cheaiting or dumping). If you date to marry, ur fucking appearance long term is not THE BASE, but it is the begining.

Most people with training, some surgeries and shit...can be a 4PSL easy. The biggest problem is HEIGHT always.

 

[Blackgymmax]

What aim you have for dating?
If looking for a girlfriend depends on what age u want it, and what kind of women u want.
Most men who are not completely deformed can have a GF, but sometimes u need to check your standards.

If you are 4PSL (full looksmaxed) develop a fucking personality and be masculine and you will have a gf 100%.
Will she leave? NO CHAD OR GIGA CHAD can ever say one girl will always stay with them, so imagine a normie.
Thats why IMO, ALL MEN DATING TO MARRY OR LTR SHOULD FIND A TRADWIFE. Rest of women can dump you easy and will be all but masculine.
Good looking people with no masculine dominance will get GF that will dominate them and make their lives THE WORST (end up cheaiting or dumping). If you date to marry, ur fucking appearance long term is not THE BASE, but it is the begining.

Most people with training, some surgeries and shit...can be a 4PSL easy. The biggest problem is HEIGHT always.

Look kid, youre ugly. Just accept it

 

[LOST]

Look kid, youre ugly. Just accept it

i tell everyone the same
Pay me a flight wherever u are and lemme mog you. We will post it here

 

[Blackgymmax]

i tell everyone the same
Pay me a flight wherever u are and lemme mog you. We will post it here

you will never mog me. Post yourself.

 

[LOST]

you will never mog me. Post yourself.

Mog u physically, i dont know abour height and ur face...ethnicity...suck it man
I told you, pay me a flight

 

[Blackgymmax]

Mog u physically, i dont know abour height and ur face...ethnicity...suck it man
I told you, pay me a flight

Then show me you clown. Im really sick of you dumb ass subhumans. Youre as bad as every 3psl black guy who comes out of the woodwork claiming to mog me when theyre not even 1/15th my level and im no tyrone.

 

[LOST]

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Then show me you clown. Im really sick of you dumb ass subhumans. Youre as bad as every 3psl black guy who comes out of the woodwork claiming to mog me when theyre not even 1/15th my level and im no tyrone.

I am anonymus for a reason
and i dont base my life in this forum as you do
if you wanna see me, flight me there, pay me hotels, and lets go around
Ur nose looks like rhino and its off, not sure if rhino but i would bet, really off damn nose.

I got no surgeries still and looking better than that.
Not bad body, i gotta say, but not at my lvl
Ur height?

 

[Blackgymmax]

I am anonymus for a reason
and i dont base my life in this forum as you do
if you wanna see me, flight me there, pay me hotels, and lets go around
Ur nose looks like rhino and its off, not sure if rhino but i would bet, really off damn nose.

I got no surgeries still and looking better than that.
Not bad body, i gotta say, but not at my lvl
Ur height?

Youre anonymous because youre ugly lol and your body is garbage. Im getting real sick of you ugly guys on looksmax talking about mogging me. The last guy was him

 

[LOST]

Youre anonymous because youre ugly lol and your body is garbage. Im getting real sick of you ugly guys on looksmax talking about mogging me. The last guy was him View attachment 2076388

Heigjt?
I am anonymys because i have a life outside here. Dont need to brag with photos
My body is 10 times ur body, but u really have good aesthetics and proportions

 

[lebronjames23]

Heigjt?
I am anonymys because i have a life outside here. Dont need to brag with photos
My body is 10 times ur body, but u really have good aesthetics and proportions

Insane larp

 

[Blackgymmax]

Heigjt?
I am anonymys because i have a life outside here. Dont need to brag with photos
My body is 10 times ur body, but u really have good aesthetics and proportions

you can't be 10x better when im borderline peak physique lol. Youll never come close to me, ugly

 

[Blackgymmax]

Insane larp

I get these alot

 

[LOST]

you can't be 10x better when im borderline peak physique lol. Youll never come close to me, ugly

manlet
And yes, my body destroys yours, anytime, anywhere

Seeya man

 

[LOST]

Insane larp

no idea what larp is

 

[lebronjames23]

I get these alot

I wouldn’t even bother with these schizos

 

[Graham]

Can you slay on tinder? Can you slay at a bar/club? For most men its no. That leaves relationships through social circles. Better than nothing though.

What would the threshold for slaying on tinder be? If it's 2 or 3 average girls who lust over you, would that be more than the average male or pretty normal?

 

[Deleted member 17997]

What would the threshold for slaying on tinder be? If it's 2 or 3 average girls who lust over you, would that be more than the average male or pretty normal?

If women irl want to be with you, if strangers tell you you're good looking

 

[Deleted member 23865]

I am below MTN with side profile included and I have gotten cold approached before and invited to parties by countless girls.

bro literally stfu. you're at least HTN if girls have cold approached you

 

[HarrierDuBois]

bro literally stfu. you're at least HTN if girls have cold approached you

You stfu I'm barely pushing MTN.

 

[Graham]

bro literally stfu. you're at least HTN if girls have cold approached you

But that's the thing, I'm also very much average, and have still been cold approached by average women (rare, but does happen), which is why I think blackpill standards don't accurately reflect real-life, which is why I can believe @Yvel_02 .

 

[vtribal]

I mean at 4 psl ur looks arent enough to carry you but not necessarily a detriment, what will determine ur dating success is social circle, money, charisma etc

 

[Graham]

which is why I can believe @ Y @Yvel_02 .

I meant HarrierDuBois not Yvel_02 for any lurkers here.