Do I have decent facial harmony and am I at least a MTN?

Welp all of this makes me conclude it's over, prob gonna Ldar and go make a .is account then. Don't think it's worth trying atp lol. Seriously though thanks, saved me a lot of time to try and looksmax just to end up not getting women still jfl
sad conclusion ngl

u can always get rich and surgerymax
 
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Welp all of this makes me conclude it's over, prob gonna Ldar and go make a .is account then. Don't think it's worth trying atp lol. Seriously though thanks, saved me a lot of time to try and looksmax just to end up not getting women still jfl
Don’t rot you have potential with surgery

Also 6’1 isn’t manlet
 
Don’t rot you have potential with surgery

Also 6’1 isn’t manlet
it depends how motivated he is to live a good life. if he gets rich he could ascend with LL and other facial surgeries. he just needs to be motivated and 110IQ+
 
High mtn - low htn tbh
 
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it depends how motivated he is to live a good life. if he gets rich he could ascend with LL and other facial surgeries. he just needs to be motivated and 110IQ+
Iq doesn’t matter I got rated 125 by a psychologist and I’m still short
 
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Iq doesn’t matter I got rated 125 by a psychologist and I’m still short
i meant enough IQ to get rich and to not get botched.
 
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That's some smart advice, any features I can work on? Even basic shit like skincare to make my skin super clear so I look like a soft kpop star? Anything more drastic I can change?
you also look pretty bloated, whats your body fat %? might just be pheno fucking you over and making you rounder tho. debloat asap

also your middle part gives you kpop halo, but at the same time shows off your large 4head; experiment with hairstyles and find something that can cover it up without losing length on the sides because losing volume on the sides will make you look like a balloon.
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try something like this to get that anime/manhwa character halo for jbs. just focus on length/volume to distract from roundface. also try to style longer hair in way that creates those sharp angles like in the 2nd pic
with a face like yours, you'll need to be hard carried by appealmaxxed aesthetic hair because zoomer girls love hair like that on asian guys, but that doesnt mean youll reach htn or be a pussy magnet, just enough to get noticed by asian fethisizing anime fans
other than that you might just be a victim to your pheno, unlucky. Your best bets are to move to SEA or go for ethnic girls that fethisize asians
 
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you also look pretty bloated, whats your body fat %? might just be pheno fucking you over and making you rounder tho. debloat asap

also your middle part gives you kpop halo, but at the same time shows off your large 4head; experiment with hairstyles and find something that can cover it up without losing length on the sides because losing volume on the sides will make you look like a balloon.
View attachment 2350935View attachment 2350937 try something like this to get that anime/manhwa character halo for jbs. just focus on length/volume to distract from roundface. also try to style longer hair in way that creates those sharp angles like in the 2nd pic
with a face like yours, you'll need to be hard carried by appealmaxxed aesthetic hair because zoomer girls love hair like that on asian guys, but that doesnt mean youll reach htn or be a pussy magnet, just enough to get noticed by asian fethisizing anime fans
other than that you might just be a victim to your pheno, unlucky. Your best bets are to move to SEA or go for ethnic girls that fethisize asians
Holy fuck this advice is crazy thanks for the detailed guide. Yeah for body fat percent I don't know I think it might be genetic. I've always been skinny yet never had a bf for a six pack. For four years of highschool I was a runner sometimes running 15+ miles in one session and still not have a low enough bf for a flat stomach. Thanks though, I'll take the haircut into consideration. When it comes to creating sharp angles with a haircut, interestingly enough I've always thought I looked better with headphones on, I wonder if that's related? It makes my jawline stand out more.
 
sad conclusion ngl

u can always get rich and surgerymax
Yeah but tbh I don't think I'd feel very good in my day by day life knowing I'm walking in someone else's body
 
Don’t rot you have potential with surgery

Also 6’1 isn’t manlet
So it's over without surgery? Nothing I can do to looksmax naturally to ascend me?
 
lean max
I am 17, 5'9-5'10 how do I do?

Here's me unfrauded, straight out of bed front facing:
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Heres a smile:

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Older pic of me
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Here's a picture of me that Ai seems to think I am the most attractive in:

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And lastly here's my favorite picture of mine where I think I look best (frauded af):
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How am I on the psl scale, and what can I improve on? Any major falios? (I'd assume my eye area or just that im ethnic but i'm not sure) People never give me a straight answer when I ask how I look so I assume i'm ugly as fuck. I do feel like I look significantly better in mirrors or in motion though. Mirrors make me feel chadlite but I think that its my brain coping.
 
High mtn - low htn tbh
I Appreciate the high rating compared to other people on this thread. But compared to what I've seen of other people on this forum I don't think Im even close. Thank you though.
 
You can do some stuff read botb

Also gym max
I was planning to gym max already just not to be a low T bitch so that's good. What's botb?
 
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Any advice for that? I was a runner in highschool running 15+ miles in one session occasionally and I was still skinny fat.
 
I was planning to gym max already just not to be a low T bitch so that's good. What's botb?
Best of the best there are many good threads on there for a specific thing

Ex. skin hair eyes frame etc.
 
Best of the best there are many good threads on there for a specific thing

Ex. skin hair eyes frame etc.
Oh I see then. Any recommendations? When I checked I mostly just saw guides that include hormones injections and surgery. I didn't get much advice for natural improvement. The stuff that was good was kinda basic like sleeping and gym
 
Oh I see then. Any recommendations? When I checked I mostly just saw guides that include hormones injections and surgery. I didn't get much advice for natural improvement. The stuff that was good was kinda basic like sleeping and gym
Hormone profile can be optimized naturally, there are threads on this.

Pm me for recommendations
 
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Any advice for that? I was a runner in highschool running 15+ miles in one session occasionally and I was still skinny fat.
lower your body fat percentage, your jawline will be visile and you'll look a lot better.
 
lower your body fat percentage, your jawline will be visile and you'll look a lot better.
Why didn't cardio work for that? Can it only really be achieved through diet and gym? Also I assumed like my jawline already is visible just not from the front because its not strong enough. Could the cheek fat contribute to that as well? I've heard that buccal fat can't really be slimmed though.
 
Why didn't cardio work for that? Can it only really be achieved through diet and gym? Also I assumed like my jawline already is visible just not from the front because its not strong enough. Could the cheek fat contribute to that as well? I've heard that buccal fat can't really be slimmed though.
its cause of cheek fat. idk about cardio but leaning out to lower body fat percentages w
will allround cause ur jaw to be visible
 
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its cause of cheek fat. idk about cardio but leaning out to lower body fat percentages w
will allround cause ur jaw to be visible
alright thank you, and I can lower bf% mostly by lifting and eating high protein then right?
 
Why didn't cardio work for that?
Because then you were just losing weight, including fat AND muscle. You want to prioritize just losing body fat while retaining muscle. Since you say youre skinnyfat you can just recomp by eating at around your maintenance or a slight deficit calories with high protein and weightlifting.
 
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yeah, you get protein, ur muscles grow and you can cut by a calorie deficit.
alright thank you, and I can lower bf% mostly by lifting and eating high protein then right?
 
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Because then you were just losing weight, including fat AND muscle. You want to prioritize just losing body fat while retaining muscle. Since you say youre skinnyfat you can just recomp by eating at around your maintenance or a slight deficit calories with high protein and weightlifting.
alright yeah that makes sense, i'll start gymaxxing then that seems like the best route for me. It would also make me stop looking like a twink. Thanks.
 
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When it comes to creating sharp angles with a haircut, interestingly enough I've always thought I looked better with headphones on, I wonder if that's related
Ive seen ppl do those sharp angles that look like anime haircuts by just ironing their hair and curling it upwards at the same time. Try to search for a vid on tiktok on it or something. You still need more length to get a haircut like that so grow it out in the meanwhile and focus on physique and skin.
 
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yeah, you get protein, ur muscles grow and you can cut by a calorie deficit.
probably shouldn't cut just yet if i'm trying to grow muscle though right? I'm pretty skinny and would prob have to get big first.
 
Ive seen ppl do those sharp angles that look like anime haircuts by just ironing their hair and curling it upwards at the same time. Try to search for a vid on tiktok on it or something. You still need more length to get a haircut like that so grow it out in the meanwhile and focus on physique and skin.
Alright i'll try it out. Also, I'm surprised at the level of experience considering your account is new like mine. Is this a second account or something?
 
Alright i'll try it out. Also, I'm surprised at the level of experience considering your account is new like mine. Is this a second account or something?
Its nothing crazy, I just basically just told u to gymmaxx and nichemaxx with hair. Also I have a number of normie Asian (mainly viet) friends so I see what works for some and what doesn't for others irl since asian halo is strong where I live among my age range
I've always thought I looked better with headphones on
Also for this, its probably bc ur headphones are squishing down on the side of your face/head and and making your round face appear somewhat slimmer. I've seen girls with round faces use their hair to cover up the the sides of their faces with similar haircuts I showed and it makes a difference, at least in my opinion.
 
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I am 17, 5'9-5'10 how do I do?

Here's me unfrauded, straight out of bed front facing:
View attachment 2349615

Heres a smile:

View attachment 2349630

Older pic of me
View attachment 2349632
Here's a picture of me that Ai seems to think I am the most attractive in:

View attachment 2349635
And lastly here's my favorite picture of mine where I think I look best (frauded af):
View attachment 2349636


How am I on the psl scale, and what can I improve on? Any major falios? (I'd assume my eye area or just that im ethnic but i'm not sure) People never give me a straight answer when I ask how I look so I assume i'm ugly as fuck. I do feel like I look significantly better in mirrors or in motion though. Mirrors make me feel chadlite but I think that its my brain coping.

Mogs me
 
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Its nothing crazy, I just basically just told u to gymmaxx and nichemaxx with hair. Also I have a number of normie Asian (mainly viet) friends so I see what works for some and what doesn't for others irl since asian halo is strong where I live among my age range

Also for this, its probably bc ur headphones are squishing down on the side of your face/head and and making your round face appear somewhat slimmer. I've seen girls with round faces use their hair to cover up the the sides of their faces with similar haircuts I showed and it makes a difference, at least in my opinion.
Yeah thats fair, just the long detailed post was pretty good. Thanks though thats really helpful, you definitely confirmed further for me that gymaxxing will severely save my life. And that makes sense with the headphones, I think i've seen similar things on tik tok.
 
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I've been lurking this site and .is for like 2 months now and I think its fucking with my perceptions of people, including myself.
Nah you're as ugly as you think
 
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what should he look into surgically? except raceplasty
Everything
Jaw midface supraorbital tret etc. Complete subhuman
 
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Nah you're as ugly as you think
holy shit I recognize you from all the threads I lurk, It feels like a celeb in my thread, thanks for the honesty though, the more I know about myself the more I can adjust expectations in life. I get I have shit supraorbital and my jaw is pretty narrow but I don't think my midface is complete shit is it? I mean when I compare myself to other people considered subhuman and ltn.
 
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Nah you're as ugly as you think
It breaks my heart to say this but I find it wierd how even low self esteem niggas are are unsure if they ugly or not even when... you know..
 
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Everything
Jaw midface supraorbital tret etc. Complete subhuman
also my jaw doesn't look absolutely terrible from the sides, so maybe if I debloat it will look better from the front. At least its visible.
 
holy shit I recognize you from all the threads I lurk, It feels like a celeb in my thread, thanks for the honesty though, the more I know about myself the more I can adjust expectations in life. I get I have shit supraorbital and my jaw is pretty narrow but I don't think my midface is complete shit is it? I mean when I compare myself to other people considered subhuman and ltn.
You have a good base to kpop maxx bro but thats your only route. You should move to a south korean forum for your own sake.
 
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holy shit I recognize you from all the threads I lurk, It feels like a celeb in my thread, thanks for the honesty though, the more I know about myself the more I can adjust expectations in life. I get I have shit supraorbital and my jaw is pretty narrow but I don't think my midface is complete shit is it? I mean when I compare myself to other people considered subhuman and ltn.
Time to leave
 
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It breaks my heart to say this but I find it wierd how even low self esteem niggas are are unsure if they ugly or not even when... you know..
I always assume I look ugly but due to mere exposure effect from having this face my whole life I have no clue what exactly makes it ugly you know? Don't worry I have had enough rejection in life to get it though lol.
 
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Time to reincarnationmaxx
this guy can barely speak english on a middle school lvl and you`re trying to argue with him? Jfl he has no idea what he's talking about
 
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