Do I have positive canthal tilt?

[Danish_Retard]

Tried taking a photo with blitz so you can clearly see the medial canthus and lateral canthus.

Measurement methodology:
Create a line between centre of both pupils
Make a parallel of that line and set it at the medial canthus
Measure angle between medial and lateral canthus.

Picture:

Spoiler: Picture with every helping line

Can someone tell me if I have measured wrong, and if not why does it look so much like I have severe NCT?

Is it just bad undereye support + excessive hooding?



If that's what it is what can I do about it? I'm guessing an orbital rim implant is just about the only thing you can do for undereye support. What about hooding, is there any way to reduce that?

 

[Danish_Retard]

Spoiler: tagging some perhaps knmowledgeable looksmaxxers

@Gaia262 @Nobagger @Lev Peshkov @StrangerDanger @randomvanish @volcelfatcel @BradAniston

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Round lower eyelids+ negative hooding can make eyes look like they have NCT.

 

[mortis]

neutral irl

 

[volcelfatcel]

PCT but could pass as neutral with the hooding

 

[Danish_Retard]

neutral irl

Should have titled "do I not have negative canhal tilt" but it sounded retarded. I know that it looks like NCT IRL, I wanna know what I can do about it.

 

[ArdaxHG]

Tried taking a photo with blitz so you can clearly see the medial canthus and lateral canthus.

Measurement methodology:
Create a line between centre of both pupils
Make a parallel of that line and set it at the medial canthus
Measure angle between medial and lateral canthus.

Picture:
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Spoiler: Picture with every helping line

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Can someone tell me if I have measured wrong, and if not why does it look so much like I have severe NCT?

Is it just bad undereye support + excessive hooding?



If that's what it is what can I do about it? I'm guessing an orbital rim implant is just about the only thing you can do for undereye support. What about hooding, is there any way to reduce that?

Yes, you do have a pct. The reason your eyes seems like nct is probably the droopy upper eyelid in the middle just above the iris.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Round lower eyelids+ negative hooding can make eyes look like they have NCT.

Mike Tyson is an example. Aggressive negative hooding making the eyes look droopy despite the lateral canthus being above the medial canthus.

 

[Danish_Retard]

Yes, you do have a pct. The reason your eyes seems like nct is probably the droopy upper eyelid in the middle just above the iris.

Mike Tyson is an example. Aggressive negative hooding making the eyes look droopy despite the lateral canthus being above the medial canthus.

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PCT but could pass as neutral with the hooding
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Would blepharoplasty be able to solve this? Or is it extremely overkill?

Also do you know if I can do anything to get a straighter lower eyelid.

 

[mortis]

Should have titled "do I not have negative canhal tilt" but it sounded retarded. I know that it looks like NCT IRL, I wanna know what I can do about it.

i have seen females do brow lift to achieve cat eyes. idk much about surgeries tbh.

 

[germanlooks]

In your case it’s mostly caused by the negative hooding.
By making your hooding neutral your eyes don’t look negative tilted anymore

And as Preston said droopy/rounded lower eyelids also can give a NTC look

Round lower eyelids+ negative hooding can make eyes look like they have NCT.

 

[ArdaxHG]

Would blepharoplasty be able to solve this? Or is it extremely overkill?

Also do you know if I can do anything to get a straighter lower eyelid.

Definetely an overkill. No need for that surgery.
For a straighter lower eyelid try training orbicularis oculi. The muscle that surrounds eye area. Mainly by forcefully blinking while frowning.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Would blepharoplasty be able to solve this? Or is it extremely overkill?

Also do you know if I can do anything to get a straighter lower eyelid.

Negative hooding can't be changed i think. Maybe supra orbital implants could help. I remember someone on lookism making a thread about it but I havent seen any results so I can't say. upper blepharoplaty would be unecessary. It would completely remove all hooding. Usually only women get that surgery and yes lower eyelid retraction. @Titbot got his lower eyelids straightened with Dr pagnoni.

 

[Kroker]

In your case it’s mostly caused by the negative hooding.
By making your hooding neutral your eyes don’t look negative tilted anymore
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And as Preston said droopy/rounded lower eyelids also can give a NTC look

You didn't do much about the right eye, right?

 

[germanlooks]

You didn't do much about the right eye, right?

A bit less than on the left because the negative hooding is worse on the left

 

[Deleted member 16133]

In your case it’s mostly caused by the negative hooding.
By making your hooding neutral your eyes don’t look negative tilted anymore
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And as Preston said droopy/rounded lower eyelids also can give a NTC look

what he needs is canthoplasty to correct the negative hooding it looks like in his right eye has has pct in his left one is neutral so hell need cantho to correct it canthos about 7500 including hospital fee apparently for eye surgeries nowadays doctors are charging 3k per eye for cantho etc
what makes the negative hooding not having super strong PCT what u could also do is get upper eyelid filler or stronger browridge but in the end you'll need canthoplasty
i recommend canthoplasty bc it cuts the orbicularis oculus muscle and tightens the lateral canthus for the desired shape rather than canthopexy that uses sutures and lasts for only 8 years where as cantho is permanent
cheers bro were all gonna make it

 

[Kroker]

what he needs is canthoplasty to correct the negative hooding it looks like in his right eye has has pct in his left one is neutral so hell need cantho to correct it canthos about 7500 including hospital fee apparently for eye surgeries nowadays doctors are charging 3k per eye for cantho etc
what makes the negative hooding not having super strong PCT what u could also do is get upper eyelid filler or stronger browridge but in the end you'll need canthoplasty
i recommend canthoplasty bc it cuts the orbicularis oculus muscle and tightens the lateral canthus for the desired shape rather than canthopexy that uses sutures and lasts for only 8 years where as cantho is permanent
cheers bro were all gonna make it

Why canthoplasty and not lower eyelid retraction?

 

[Deleted member 16133]

what he needs is canthoplasty to correct the negative hooding it looks like in his right eye has has pct in his left one is neutral so hell need cantho to correct it canthos about 7500 including hospital fee apparently for eye surgeries nowadays doctors are charging 3k per eye for cantho etc
what makes the negative hooding not having super strong PCT what u could also do is get upper eyelid filler or stronger browridge but in the end you'll need canthoplasty
i recommend canthoplasty bc it cuts the orbicularis oculus muscle and tightens the lateral canthus for the desired shape rather than canthopexy that uses sutures and lasts for only 8 years where as cantho is permanent
cheers bro were all gonna make it

dont listen to anyone else here most are new to aesthetics where as I've been studying this for years
most here are young kids and don't understand what goes into an aesthetic face or plastic surgery
I'm a connoisseur for the plastic
cantho is what u need and unfortunately you'll ned 3-5+ degree positive canthal tilt to not have this negative hooding like opry or depoot are an example of ideal pct and barret is a bit extreme but still looks good none of them have negative hooding bc they have strong PCT

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Why canthoplasty and not lower eyelid retraction?

alright ima explain this
lower lid retraction decreases sceleral show and it looks like he has not much if none at all its just the angle probably
if u get them too retracted it will look squinty and melania trump like if that's the look u want go for it
but the negative hooding is caused by the canthal tilt its just how it works because this is an upper eyelid issue not lower lid
lower lid retraction will do nothing but reduce the sceleral show and is virtually an imbecile thing to do based on the problem he has
PCT is extremely important and underrated
people will cope with slight nct and neutral is masculine but all the male models worshipped here have PCTS
besides hexum whod look better with PCT and chico who has slight PCT

 

[germanlooks]

dont listen to anyone else here most are new to aesthetics where as I've been studying this for years
most here are young kids and don't understand what goes into an aesthetic face or plastic surgery
I'm a connoisseur for the plastic
cantho is what u need and unfortunately you'll ned 3-5+ degree positive canthal tilt to not have this negative hooding like opry or depoot are an example of ideal pct and barret is a bit extreme but still looks good none of them have negative hooding bc they have strong PCT

You can have negative hooding even with a strong PCT like Maher for example

 

[Deleted member 16133]

You can have negative hooding even with a strong PCT like Maher for example
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again its a canthal tilt issue everybodys different aesthetic wise like i said he has three choices browrideg implants uee fillers or CANTHOPLASTY WHICH IS THE CURE TO NEGATIVE HOODING

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psl wise the morph is better but i dont even thinks he needs it i mean the guy is a gigachad
but see what i mean when u give him even stronger pct the negative hooding is erased

 

[ArdaxHG]

again its a canthal tilt issue everybodys different aesthetic wise like i said he has three choices browrideg implants uee fillers or CANTHOPLASTY WHICH IS THE CURE TO NEGATIVE HOODING
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psl wise the morph is better but i dont even thinks he needs it i mean the guy is a gigachad
but see what i mean when u give him even stronger pct the negative hooding is erased

Danish guy needs no surgeries for his eyes right now. Maher does not have a negative hooding. The negative hooding occurs when the upper eyelid covering skin drops creating a deformity on the original shape of eyes causing a tired look. Its caused by 2 things mainly, skin dropping as one ages or a negative orbital tilt. Based on @Danish_Retard eyebrows he does not look like he has a negative orbital tilt but a neutral one as most people do have.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Danish guy needs no surgeries for his eyes right now. Maher does not have a negative hooding. The negative hooding occurs when the upper eyelid covering skin drops creating a deformity on the original shape of eyes causing a tired look.

everything is relative
but youre right
if his lower third is god tier then he should get canthoplasty
but if its shit he needs to focus on other areas besides the eyes bc he has blue eyes and is white his eyes are the least of the problem for now

 

[ArdaxHG]

everything is relative
but youre right
if his lower third is god tier then he should get canthoplasty
but if its shit he needs to focus on other areas besides the eyes bc he has blue eyes and is white his eyes are the least of the problem for now

Yeah we gotta see how harmonious his eyes are with other parts of his face . But a negative( not an old man tier) hooding is in most cases not a big deal if it harmonizes.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Yeah we gotta see how harmonious his eyes are with other parts of his face . But a negative( not an old man tier) hooding is in most cases not a big deal if it harmonizes.

your ass knows whats up

 

[Danish_Retard]

Yeah we gotta see how harmonious his eyes are with other parts of his face . But a negative( not an old man tier) hooding is in most cases not a big deal if it harmonizes.

your ass knows whats up

I appreciate the discussion. I'll shelf this worry until I've fixed more major problems.

I'll send my face but I am 95kg currently so I doubt much can be seen other than lard.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I appreciate the discussion. I'll shelf this worry until I've fixed more major problems.

I'll send my face but I am 95kg currently so I doubt much can be seen other than lard.

pmmmmm

 

[ArdaxHG]

your ass knows whats up

Im not a native speaker, what in the hell does this idiom means you dont insult me right

 

[Danish_Retard]

Im not a native speaker, what in the hell does this idiom means you dont insult me right

He is telling you that what you are saying is correct and you are knowledgeable about this.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Im not a native speaker, what in the hell does this idiom means you dont insult me right

yo ahhhhh know wazzup my g
it just means ur right and cool

 

[ArdaxHG]

He is telling you that what you are saying is correct and you are knowledgeable about this.

yo ahhhhh know wazzup my g
it just means ur right and cool

Ahaha ok my pardons mate, thank you

 

[Birdcell]

Small degree tbh

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[BradAniston]

Your droppy lower eyelid make it look like nct
Same for me, I have a PCT but my lower eyelid is so bad so it look like I have a nct

 

[randomvanish]

pct + negative hooding. it looks good overall imho

 

[Biiyo03]

PCT but could pass as neutral with the hooding
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u clearly dont see the slight down tilt u weasle crap

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Lower lid fucks you up.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

dont listen to these faggots saying its a lowerlid issue because ITS NOT

just because they have more posts here does not make it right

most of their posts are shit posts and rots

 

[Baldingman1998]

Chad

 

[StrangerDanger]

Negative hooding can't be changed i think. Maybe supra orbital implants could help. I remember someone on lookism making a thread about it but I havent seen any results so I can't say. upper blepharoplaty would be unecessary. It would completely remove all hooding. Usually only women get that surgery and yes lower eyelid retraction. @Titbot got his lower eyelids straightened with Dr pagnoni.

it's due to excessive skin tissue / fat not due to his bones, he could get an upper blepharoplasty to fix it

 

[tyronelite]

I didn’t know u were a Chad

 

[Jason Voorhees]

it's due to excessive skin tissue / fat not due to his bones, he could get an upper blepharoplasty to fix it

It depends sometimes it's because of excessive fat(Asians) and sometimes it's due to excessive skin and bone. U can't change the type of hooding afaik. Someone on lookism made a thread about it. Upper blepharoplasty will remove all hooding which is a looksmin. Usually only older women and Asians get upper blepharoplasty.

 

[StrangerDanger]

It depends sometimes it's because of excessive fat(Asians) and sometimes it's due to excessive skin and bone. U can't change the type of hooding afaik. Someone on lookism made a thread about it. Upper blepharoplasty will remove all hooding which is a looksmin. Usually only older women and Asians get upper blepharoplasty.

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In his case it looks like its due to skin tissue. I believe a skilled surgeon would be able to remove minor portions of excess tissue in the lateral ends. Though yes it would make his eyes less hooded
Or he could attempt to get more hooding in the medial part of his eye like in @germanlooks morph to level it out and make it more neutral with upper eye fat grafts or fillers

 

[Titbot]

what he needs is canthoplasty to correct the negative hooding it looks like in his right eye has has pct in his left one is neutral so hell need cantho to correct it canthos about 7500 including hospital fee apparently for eye surgeries nowadays doctors are charging 3k per eye for cantho etc
what makes the negative hooding not having super strong PCT what u could also do is get upper eyelid filler or stronger browridge but in the end you'll need canthoplasty
i recommend canthoplasty bc it cuts the orbicularis oculus muscle and tightens the lateral canthus for the desired shape rather than canthopexy that uses sutures and lasts for only 8 years where as cantho is permanent
cheers bro were all gonna make it

Holy shit you know your eye surgery mirin hard. Check dms

 

[Titbot]

Tried taking a photo with blitz so you can clearly see the medial canthus and lateral canthus.

Measurement methodology:
Create a line between centre of both pupils
Make a parallel of that line and set it at the medial canthus
Measure angle between medial and lateral canthus.

Picture:
View attachment 1570547

Spoiler: Picture with every helping line

View attachment 1570549

Can someone tell me if I have measured wrong, and if not why does it look so much like I have severe NCT?

Is it just bad undereye support + excessive hooding?



If that's what it is what can I do about it? I'm guessing an orbital rim implant is just about the only thing you can do for undereye support. What about hooding, is there any way to reduce that?

Upper bleph. The upper eyelid hooding is the problem. @curlyheadjames is right

 

[Danish_Retard]

Upper bleph. The upper eyelid hooding is the problem. @curlyheadjames is right

Thanks bro. I was hoping you would see the thread after getting tagged. I didn't think you still used the forum.

 

[Titbot]

Thanks bro. I was hoping you would see the thread after getting tagged. I didn't think you still used the forum.

However bleph if done right mogs. It’s tricky to get right

 

[Mewton]

Positive tilt
Negative hooding
= Neutral eye area