OP Do I have potential? Will gear and Bimax save me

[gigachode]

18 with about 12% body fat and planning on Bimax soon and doing my first cycle

 

[gigachode]

bump

 

[gigachode]

bump

 

[unknownuserpsl]

you are not 12%bf, you are more like 16-18%

 

[Crowsmagnon]

gear will change your face subtley, the bimax would work wonders no lie

 

[gigachode]

you are not 12%bf, you are more like 16-18%

I’m just going off this app I got. It could be completely wrong idek

 

[gigachode]

gear will change your face subtley, the bimax would work wonders no lie

Ya my jaw is so cooked. Bimax will save my kids life

 

[NoaA99]

Bimax sure. Do you have any medical indication, or is it purely about aesthetics?

Gear, what for? Body or face?
Face, it won’t do much, if anything at all.

 

[gigachode]

Bimax sure. Do you have any medical indication, or is it purely about aesthetics?

Gear, what for? Body or face?
Face, it won’t do much, if anything at all.

gear for body and bimax cause jaw is recessed with no other functional problems. got a consultation with a surgeon recently and he said Im a good candidate for 10mm+ in mandlible and 2-5 in maxilla with ccw rotation.

 

[VaspyLK]

Starve Maxx trust

 

[NateJacobs]

i know guys who look exactly like you irl who pull baddies, it’s always good to improve you’re looks but any surgical efforts is just high effort low reward for you. Social circle and NT maxx should be priority over surgery for you but keep softmaxxing

 

[NoaA99]

gear for body and bimax cause jaw is recessed with no other functional problems. got a consultation with a surgeon recently and he said Im a good candidate for 10mm+ in mandlible and 2-5 in maxilla with ccw rotation.

Fair enough.

Still, hopping on gear without ever touching a weight is kind of hilarious. You should at least train naturally for 1-2 years and see what your baseline potential looks like.
It’s really not difficult at your age to achieve a great physique.

 

[gigachode]

i know guys who look exactly like you irl who pull baddies, it’s always good to improve you’re looks but any surgical efforts is just high effort low reward for you. Social circle and NT maxx should be priority over surgery for you but keep softmaxxing

na bro bimax is a must for me. This is a side pic without mewing.

 

[gigachode]

Fair enough.

Still, hopping on gear without ever touching a weight is kind of hilarious. You should at least train naturally for 1-2 years and see what your baseline potential looks like.
It’s really not difficult at your age to achieve a great physique.

I just don't see the point when my test is 400 when im 18. My peak natty gains will take a 1-2 years with perfect diet and training when i can take a moderate amount of gear and fly past my natty gains with minimal side effects.

 

[gigachode]

Starve Maxx trust

whats a good bfp to be at to see your potential

 

[zemult]

na bro bimax is a must for me. This is a side pic without mewing.View attachment 3672592

yeah mandible is 100% recessed. get bsso + genio at the very least.

 

[gigachode]

yeah mandible is 100% recessed. get bsso + genio at the very least.

i asked my surgeon about a genio and he shot the idea down fast. not sure if he's inexperienced in genios or he genuinely thinks i shouldnt get a genio but a lot of people mentioned it so idk why he was so quick to say no. will the bsso not fix the projection in my lower jaw making my chin look more normal?

 

[zemult]

i asked my surgeon about a genio and he shot the idea down fast. not sure if he's inexperienced in genios or he genuinely thinks i shouldnt get a genio but a lot of people mentioned it so idk why he was so quick to say no. will the bsso not fix the projection in my lower jaw making my chin look more normal?

if the surgeon is saying to not do a genio it's probably for the best. however if you have the xray scans i would get this cross-checked with other surgeons

 

[markmcc]

18 with about 12% body fat and planning on Bimax soon and doing my first cycle

I wouldn’t say your 12% body fat closer to 17-18% bimax will ascend you and having a cycle will help, how is your dating life?

 

[gigachode]

if the surgeon is saying to not do a genio it's probably for the best. however if you have the xray scans i would get this cross-checked with other surgeons

well thats the thing like he didnt even have xrays to go off of and was purely going off of looks and my bite. Thats why I think it might be a inexperience issue

 

[gigachode]

I wouldn’t say your 12% body fat closer to 17-18% bimax will ascend you and having a cycle will help, how is your dating life?

just got out of a 2 year relationship and going to college soon

 

[zemult]

well thats the thing like he didnt even have xrays to go off of and was purely going off of looks and my bite. Thats why I think it might be a inexperience issue

oh if that's the case then you should definitely get second opinion based off of actual xray scans

 

[zemult]

also if you're doing gear expecting facial bone changes, you will not get any. it will only help build your physique faster

be aware of the various risks with gear as well (balding / accelerated aging / etc.)

 

[gigachode]

also if you're doing gear expecting facial bone changes, you will not get any. it will only help build your physique faster

be aware of the various risks with gear as well (balding / accelerated aging / etc.)

ya I am only doing it for my physique. im doing a pretty moderate cycle (250 test 250 eq) with a bunch of precautions to not bald and have acne. I know it'll slightly age me faster but im only planning to do this one cycle and hopefully maintain that muscle for a while

 

[gigachode]

also if you're doing gear expecting facial bone changes, you will not get any. it will only help build your physique faster

be aware of the various risks with gear as well (balding / accelerated aging / etc.)

also what would you rate me now and after getting bimax

 

[zemult]

also what would you rate me now and after getting bimax

probably LTN to MTN side wise

can't really rate your front with what i'm given here

 

[gigachode]

probably LTN to MTN side wise

can't really rate your front with what i'm given here

 

[zemult]

yeah your front i'd rate MTN. bimax won't do too much for your front but your side matters a lot in motion when you're recessed.

currently when balancing everything i'd say higher LTN range. You will most likely be a solid MTN after bimax.

 

[gigachode]

yeah your front i'd rate MTN. bimax won't do too much for your front but your side matters a lot in motion when you're recessed.

currently when balancing everything i'd say higher LTN range. You will most likely be a solid MTN after bimax.

do you think i have the potential to be a HTM with softmaxes or even more hardmaxes? is there any noticeable failos?

 

[zemult]

do you think i have the potential to be a HTM with softmaxes or even more hardmaxes? is there any noticeable failos?

tbh you are a great candidate for implants after bimax due to your pheno and having little large falios (besides the recession).

thing is your front i still don't have a good picture of. lens distortion can be making your bones look worse than they actually are.

ideally you want to take a picture like this:

HOW TO TAKE RATING PICTURES

Lens distortion affects selfies because they're usually taken too close, at arm's length. For accurate ratings or looksmaxxing advice, photos should be taken from at least 6 feet away. Here's a quick guide: 1. Place your phone at eye level on a stable surface. 2. Ensure the phone is straight...

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although one thing I can tell for sure: your upper lip is thin and your philtrum is long. this is a common falio in white men.

would be fixable via lip lift

 

[gigachode]

tbh you are a great candidate for implants after bimax due to your pheno and having little large falios (besides the recession).

thing is your front i still don't have a good picture of. lens distortion can be making your bones look worse than they actually are.

ideally you want to take a picture like this:

HOW TO TAKE RATING PICTURES

Lens distortion affects selfies because they're usually taken too close, at arm's length. For accurate ratings or looksmaxxing advice, photos should be taken from at least 6 feet away. Here's a quick guide: 1. Place your phone at eye level on a stable surface. 2. Ensure the phone is straight...

looksmax.org

although one thing I can tell for sure: your upper lip is thin and your philtrum is long. this is a common falio in white men.

would be fixable via lip lift

This better? I look so asymmetrical in this lmao

 

[zemult]

This better? I look so asymmetrical in this lmao

yeah you look better here. don't worry about the asymmetry it's not even a problem.

if you REALLY want to get past mtn after fixing your recession (although I'll be honest, you will do fine even with just being mtn)

clear your skin. lower bodyfat. you seem to have decent bones that can be shown with just being lean. i won't be able to tell if you can make htn or not at this point.

but surgery wise, lip lift will help. and you may as well get a mouth commissuroplasty at that point.

 

[gigachode]

ight bro appreciate the help. also whats a good bodyfat to aim for

 

[NoaA99]

I just don't see the point when my test is 400 when im 18. My peak natty gains will take a 1-2 years with perfect diet and training when i can take a moderate amount of gear and fly past my natty gains with minimal side effects.

Did you get bloodwork done? That’s definitely on the lower side. Still, before considering blasting, you should really take a closer look at your lifestyle, nutrition, and sleep first.
Also, did you get bloodwork in the morning, or at some other time? T-levels fluctuate by about 20-50% during the day.

 

[gigachode]

Did you get bloodwork done? That’s definitely on the lower side. Still, before considering blasting, you should really take a closer look at your lifestyle, nutrition, and sleep first.
Also, did you get bloodwork in the morning, or at some other time? T-levels fluctuate by about 20-50% during the day.

Yes I got it done in the morning. One thing that could have been effecting it was me being in ketosis ant the time and also being around 7% body fat. Still either was I’m prob around 450

 

[NoaA99]

Yes I got it done in the morning. One thing that could have been effecting it was me being in ketosis ant the time and also being around 7% body fat. Still either was I’m prob around 450

That was definitely effecting it dramatically. Do a new one.

 

[gigachode]

That was definitely effecting it dramatically. Do a new one.

How much do you think it was effecting it?

 

[altbones]

18 with about 12% body fat and planning on Bimax soon and doing my first cycle

 

[NoaA99]

How much do you think it was effecting it?

Irrelevant and not exactly predictable for me, I am not a medical professional, just eat normal and get to around 10-12% body fat, then get bloodwork again.
Your body is likely in a constant energy deficient or stressful state. This type of restriction can lead to the body conserving energy for survival, rather than regular hormone production.

 

[laworg]

18 with about 12% body fat and planning on Bimax soon and doing my first cycle

Guy said 12% lucky to be 18

 

[gigachode]

Guy said 12% lucky to be 18

bro my scale app and chagpt says im around 10-12 percent based on my wieght, proportions, and height. im 6'0 and 160 lb

 

[laworg]

bro my scale app and chagpt says im around 10-12 percent based on my wieght, proportions, and height. im 6'0 and 160 lb

Jfl u dont even have slightly visible abs and u need very well developed abs to even slightly see em at 15% YOU ARE NOT CLOSE TO THAT

 

[Deleted member 77234]

18 with about 12% body fat and planning on Bimax soon and doing my first cycle

Gear can ascend anyone jus like know once u start u gotta do it for the rest of your life

 

[gigachode]

Jfl u dont even have slightly visible abs and u need very well developed abs to even slightly see em at 15% YOU ARE NOT CLOSE TO THAT

What would you say based off this pic wit better lighting

 

[laworg]

What would you say based off this pic wit better lighting View attachment 3674523

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