DO NOT TAKE SARMS

[Helvetier]

At least if you wanna see good results. I ended my LGD cycle and I made better progress being natty, @Finalkiosk predicted it (atleast for me, my hb made good progress while on), I didn’t loose any strength coming off even though I immediately started a aggressive cut. I take enclo now just to make sure my test goes up again.
For me it was more kind of a gateway drug.

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[combatingNorwooding]

LGD is the only one you should use tbh

 

[Helvetier]

LGD is the only one you should use tbh

Read the thread brahh

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Read the thread brahh

I did. And you are retarded to do an only-LGD cycle lol

 

[ICL]

I thought sarms + serms was basic knowledge, why take sarms in isolation?

 

[Helvetier]

I did. And you are retarded to do an only-LGD cycle lol

Yeah I knew about the reputation but I still wanted to try it (gateway). I know that it should be an add on for a test cycle

 

[Helvetier]

I thought sarms + serms was basic knowledge, why take sarms in isolation?

I took enclo while being on lgd

 

[ihateevb]

At least if you wanna see good results. I ended my LGD cycle and I made better progress being natty, @Finalkiosk predicted it (atleast for me, my hb made good progress while on), I didn’t loose any strength coming off even though I immediately started a aggressive cut. I take enclo now just to make sure my test goes up again.
For me it was more kind of a gateway drug.

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Sarms are cope bruh we all know

 

[ICL]

I took enclo while being on lgd

ah I thought you took it after, you said "now I take enclo" which I interpreted that you used enclo now and not before

 

[Helvetier]

Sarms are cope bruh we all know

Yeah still had to test it

 

[ihateevb]

Yeah still had to test it

Tren in ass

 

[sonic55555]

I feel like the whole sarm thing died out

 

[Helvetier]

ah I thought you took it after, you said "now I take enclo" which I interpreted that you used enclo now and not before

Yeah worded it a bit wrong but I took enclo near the end.

 

[Helvetier]

Tren in ass

Soon

 

[Finalkiosk]

At least if you wanna see good results. I ended my LGD cycle and I made better progress being natty, @Finalkiosk predicted it (atleast for me, my hb made good progress while on), I didn’t loose any strength coming off even though I immediately started a aggressive cut. I take enclo now just to make sure my test goes up again.
For me it was more kind of a gateway drug.

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thanks for the mention brotha

yea, your natural test being 700 without sarms will make you more gains than your natural test being 150 + 20mg of sarms

if you really wanna do an oral only cycle, var + enclo seems to be your best bet

i did that as my first cycle and my test went up from 400 to 700, free and bioavailable test also went up, but i also had anavars anabolism and glucocorticoid receptor inhibition

so pretty much, test went up + anavars gains

lgd suppresses you too much so your pretty much only relying on it for your androgen receptor gene transcription for gains


enclo should be taken throughout the whole cycle for any sarm cycle, maintaining your natural test or even increasing it slightly, while adding an anabolic compound is a smart move

 

[Helvetier]

thanks for the mention brotha

yea, your natural test being 700 without sarms will make you more gains than your natural test being 150 + 20mg of sarms

if you really wanna do an oral only cycle, var + enclo seems to be your best bet

i did that as my first cycle and my test went up from 400 to 700, free and bioavailable test also went up, but i also had anavars anabolism and glucocorticoid receptor inhibition

so pretty much, test went up + anavars gains

lgd suppresses you too much so your pretty much only relying on it for your androgen receptor gene transcription for gains


enclo should be taken throughout the whole cycle for any sarm cycle, maintaining your natural test or even increasing it slightly, while adding an anabolic compound is a smart move

Thanks brahh, I dont mind pinning so Ill just use test in my next cycle. I kind of used to sarms to get into the ped game (and since Im not able to roid during summer).

yea, your natural test being 700 without sarms will make you more gains than your natural test being 150 + 20mg of sarms

Makes sense cuz my low t hb made progress on sarms

 

[Finalkiosk]

Thanks brahh, I dont mind pinning so Ill just use test in my next cycle. I kind of used to sarms to get into the ped game (and since Im not able to roid during summer).

yea test is king, having the peak morning test of 3-5 men, regardless of your sleep, diet, training and recovery will always make you gains

if you take test for 2 years, even without training, your body will slowly shift into a leaner, and more muscular and vascular build

how your body looks depends on the stimulus you give it, the three biggest stimulus' are training, hormonal state, and food

if you max out hormonal state by pinning test, and you have decent training and diet you will transform even if your half assing it

i would reccomend you start with 50mg test everyday pinned subq, give that 4 weeks then add in 25mg var for 2 weeks, and then maybe bump up the var to 30-50

test and var gives you the highest reward for almost no risk, var has some of trens abilities like glucocorticoid inhibition and increasing local igf1, var also reduces igf1 binding proteins so youl get more out of your hgh if you taking that too

if you cant get 80% the way to your dream physique on test var and some hgh, then you probably have fake roids or super bad genetics/training/diet

Makes sense cuz my low t hb made progress on sarms

yea, someone with already low test wouldnt be losing much by taking sarms, still they would have less test to aromitise which means less estrogen and estrogen is protective for the brain so its still not a smart idea


enclo + var is a good oral only entry to peds, after that, test var hgh

 

[Helvetier]

50mg test everyday pinned subq,

Shi thats exactly what I planned on doing, subq mogs for lower doses.