Discussion Do people with High IQ see the world fundamentally Different to people average?

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

Imagine someone with 180 IQ compared to someone 100 IQ

Do the higher IQ Person think in a way that is fundamentally Different to the average IQ?

I mean; do they see things that other person COULD never ever see not even with an infinite amount of time?

 

[Terrortheplug]

Obviously

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

Obviously

I already asked this question to other people and they said me multiples things like:

No, a higher iq its just a trick to allow people to think faster and see patters more quickly than other

i mean, they see the world as the same but just more “smart and faster”

and the low iq people can be capable of doing such things as Higher iq people with enough motivation and time

 

[Terrortheplug]

I already asked this question to other people and they said me multiples things like:

No, a higher iq its just a trick to allow people to think faster and see patters more quickly than other

i mean, they see the world as the same but just more “smart and faster”

and the low iq people can be capable of doing such things as Higher iq people with enough motivation and time

wdym by see the world the same do you mean with our eyes

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

I would hope so, higher iq doesnt change your eyeballs

 

[greycel]

Continuous vs static (gradients), sets, recursion, symmetry, feedback loops, correlation, sufficiency, depth & breadth

 

[Bryce]

Obviously

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

wdym by see the world the same do you mean with our eyes

i mean can a person with an high iq see things that an average iq person would never see even with an infinite lapse time?

Mysteries of universe and life that an average iq would never see?

Thats a different perspective of the world thats leads you see the world complete different

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

I would hope so, higher iq doesnt change your eyeballs

Im talking about a more deeper perspective of life that an average iq would never be capable to access at it

even with 10 millions time

 

[Terrortheplug]

i mean can a person with an high iq see things that an average iq person would never see even with an infinite lapse time?

Mysteries of universe and life that an average iq would never see?

Thats a different perspective of the world thats leads you see the world complete different

Bro idk maybe

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

Bro idk maybe

brutal

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Im talking about a more deeper perspective of life that an average iq would never be capable to access at it

even with 10 millions time

Who knows? Not really something that can be tracked and recorded

 

[Daniel zacks]

You forgot to tag me

 

[Daniel zacks]

You forgot to tag me

I'm low-key a genius

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

I'm low-key a genius

how do you see the world

 

[Gearsy]

someone with a low iq wont be able to grasp alot of abstract concepts like per capita or mean no matter how much you argue with them

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

someone with a low iq wont be able to grasp alot of abstract concepts like per capita or mean no matter how much you argue with them

Even if they have the amount of motivation and time?

 

[Gearsy]

Even if they have the amount of motivation and time?

no, they might nod their head and say that they do but they wont actually undertsand it, just memorise your explanation

 

[Daniel zacks]

how do you see the world

You see patterns, but other people can't . It stretches past seeing patterns in nature and other things you also see patterns in human behaviour and personality traits, maths physics, computer science and anything involving a mathematical nature is much easier because it just comes naturally and you see the patterns in trigonometry and regular geometry or in coding it can also be hard in certain social situations since for a lot of people. It's harder to put themselves in your point of view or you just sound stupid sometimes because people can't comprehend what you're saying.

 

[Tenres]

The experience is fundamentally different because everything is processed in our brain, so I wouldn't say the physical reality is different but we process everything differently, an intelligent person makes more connections feels things with more depth like @greycel said, they will see other people especially in a different way because they can extrapolate their own feelings and understanding of themselves onto others.

Even your culture and language can shape how you process things, I wouldn't even say its debatable. We identify things through categorization based on the similarity to other objects / things, if you make more or different connections the object itself is being identified differently. Psychotically its a different experience.

 

[ltnfraud6ft]

Imagine someone with 180 IQ compared to someone 100 IQ

Do the higher IQ Person think in a way that is fundamentally Different to the average IQ?

I mean; do they see things that other person COULD never ever see not even with an infinite amount of time?

I have 144 iq, I was tested by a psychiatrist at 12 years old.
I don't feel a difference and nobody with a high iq can ever feel that difference you describe because we are ourself, not other human beings.
I see the world in a certain way
You see the world in a certain way
They see the world in a certain way
And we all think that our perspective is just normal and not a special thing at all

So what type of answer do you wanted to hear?
I'm not an genius whatsoever, I can't do math since I'm 2 and I can't play the piano fluently since birth

The only time I "feel" The high iq is when there's a task that needs pattern solution and problem solving in generell, that's what I'm pretty good and fast at but other than that we're just normal human beings like a average iq person.

 

[Gearsy]

I have 144 iq, I was tested by a psychiatrist at 12 years old.
I don't feel a difference and nobody with a high iq can ever feel that difference you describe because we are ourself, not other human beings.
I see the world in a certain way
You see the world in a certain way
They see the world in a certain way
And we all think that our perspective is just normal and not a special thing at all

So what type of answer do you wanted to hear?
I'm not an genius whatsoever, I can't do math since I'm 2 and I can't play the piano fluently since birth

The only time I "feel" The high iq is when there's a task that needs pattern solution and problem solving in generell, that's what I'm pretty good and fast at but other than that we're just normal human beings like a average iq person.

good larp

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

no, they might nod their head and say that they do but they wont actually undertsand it, just memorise your explanation

But if they memorise your explanations and can teach other people its already knowledge

Aristotle i think he says that the memory capacity is the epitome of knowldge

But can they really learn such things as an actually genius can do even with a ilimitate time

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

You see patterns, but other people can't . It stretches past seeing patterns in nature and other things you also see patterns in human behaviour and personality traits, maths physics, computer science and anything involving a mathematical nature is much easier because it just comes naturally and you see the patterns in trigonometry and regular geometry or in coding it can also be hard in certain social situations since for a lot of people. It's harder to put themselves in your point of view or you just sound stupid sometimes because people can't comprehend what you're saying.

If this is true its very interesting

you can see literally things that lower iq could never do

but if a low iq person or average live forever do you thing he can see things that a genius see?

 

[cursedpaki19]

Imagine someone with 180 IQ compared to someone 100 IQ

Do the higher IQ Person think in a way that is fundamentally Different to the average IQ?

I mean; do they see things that other person COULD never ever see not even with an infinite amount of time?

Someone with 180iq would know they are miles above everyone else in terms of intelligence and knowledge, so they would see everyone else as slaves and idiots

 

[ltnfraud6ft]

good larp

Lol if u say so I don't really care tbh what you think of me ur just a random dude form the internet you asked a question, I gave you my point of view from that question and now I'm a Larp

 

[Gearsy]

But if they memorise your explanations and can teach other people its already knowledge

Aristotle i think he says that the memory capacity is the epitome of knowldge

But can they really learn such things as an actually genius can do even with a ilimitate time

its like the difference between an ai model 'understanding' something and a human.

an ai has gone through petabytes of training data to replicate human speech and its so accurate that you feel like youre talking to a real person

but under the hood its just matrix calculations, there is no actual understanding of what its saying

and you can make the argument that it doesnt matter whether or not that its truly understands just that what its saying is accurate but i think thats cope

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

The experience is fundamentally different because everything is processed in our brain, so I wouldn't say the physical reality is different but we process everything differently, an intelligent person makes more connections feels things with more depth like @greycel said, they will see other people especially in a different way because they can extrapolate their own feelings and understanding of themselves onto others.

Even your culture and language can shape how you process things, I wouldn't even say its debatable. We identify things through categorization based on the similarity to other objects / things, if you make more or different connections the object itself is being identified differently. Psychotically its a different experience.

Yes genius people can see the world literally different in terms of persoective lf a lower iq one

but my question is if a lower iq person could ever see the same patters that a genius could do

In a ilimitate time of life

 

[Gearsy]

Lol if u say so I don't really care tbh what you think of me ur just a random dude form the internet you asked a question, I gave you my point of view from that question and now I'm a Larp

dnr

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

I have 144 iq, I was tested by a psychiatrist at 12 years old.
I don't feel a difference and nobody with a high iq can ever feel that difference you describe because we are ourself, not other human beings.
I see the world in a certain way
You see the world in a certain way
They see the world in a certain way
And we all think that our perspective is just normal and not a special thing at all

So what type of answer do you wanted to hear?
I'm not an genius whatsoever, I can't do math since I'm 2 and I can't play the piano fluently since birth

The only time I "feel" The high iq is when there's a task that needs pattern solution and problem solving in generell, that's what I'm pretty good and fast at but other than that we're just normal human beings like a average iq person.

Mirin

I mean if lower iq people could ever do such things as a genius could do

like creating NASA or such things as genius do in their lives and can see the patterns or perspective a genius do

even in 1 millions years

 

[ltnfraud6ft]

what does this guy gearsy like so much abt my balls

 

[White_Bwoi]

People of high iq especially with ADHD are kinda diferrent breed

 

[ltnfraud6ft]

Mirin

I mean if lower iq people could ever do such things as a genius could do

like creating NASA or such things as genius do in their lives and can see the patterns or perspective a genius do

even in 1 millions years

I fear not, sure you can make a ton of money as a dumb fuck with luck and a perfect opportunity that u accidentally and luckily took but I don't think that a dumb fuck ever could come to the mental level of someone like Elon musk or Oppenheimer... list goes on

These geniuses aren't just high iq individuals
They are GENIUSES that's a huge difference
Im a high iq individual but still miles away from a genius, on the iq chart shit list I'm just 1 iq away from genius level but that's complete bs, that 1 iq wouldn't do shit
Geniuses can do the things they can because there's a difference that's not normal in there brain activity mainly
I think lol

 

[Tenres]

Yes genius people can see the world literally different in terms of persoective lf a lower iq one

but my question is if a lower iq person could ever see the same patters that a genius could do

In a ilimitate time of life

No, if they are sufficiently low IQ then no. If we can theoretically increase someone's IQ is another question, but assuming a static IQ that is very low, then we are talking about not even understand hypotheticals.

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

its like the difference between an ai model 'understanding' something and a human.

an ai has gone through petabytes of training data to replicate human speech and its so accurate that you feel like youre talking to a real person

but under the hood its just matrix calculations, there is no actual understanding of what its saying

and you can make the argument that it doesnt matter whether or not that its truly understands just that what its saying is accurate but i think thats cope

Yes but this is because an IA doesnt have conscience and never be capable of know what his saying

it just numbers in his system that are acting for him

just man made machine without emotions

but humans act and think differently than a machine, our brains acts chemically different and react different at things

A human can see the wolrd and have a perspective for himself and lear such things about life and be capable of know exactly and why his saying such things

Thats why im asking if a human could ever be capable of see something that a High IQ (High genius) could see and understand it at perfection like a genius could do

 

[Tenres]

I fear not, sure you can make a ton of money as a dumb fuck with luck and a perfect opportunity that u accidentally and luckily took but I don't think that a dumb fuck ever could come to the mental level of someone like Elon musk or Oppenheimer... list goes on

These geniuses aren't just high iq individuals
They are GENIUSES that's a huge difference
Im a high iq individual but still miles away from a genius, on the iq chart shit list I'm just 1 iq away from genius level but that's complete bs, that 1 iq wouldn't do shit
Geniuses can do the things they can because there's a difference that's not normal in there brain activity mainly
I think lol

I don't know much about Musk but he seems like a guy who's just good at delegating tasks and talent selection. Very important skill, one of the most important actually, but comparing him with Oppenheimer seems ridiculous.

 

[cargo70]

Imagine someone with 180 IQ compared to someone 100 IQ

Do the higher IQ Person think in a way that is fundamentally Different to the average IQ?

I mean; do they see things that other person COULD never ever see not even with an infinite amount of time?

I think about this a lot, and if that's the case, it’s sad that most people aren't able to comprehend a complete view of the world.

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

I fear not, sure you can make a ton of money as a dumb fuck with luck and a perfect opportunity that u accidentally and luckily took but I don't think that a dumb fuck ever could come to the mental level of someone like Elon musk or Oppenheimer... list goes on

These geniuses aren't just high iq individuals
They are GENIUSES that's a huge difference
Im a high iq individual but still miles away from a genius, on the iq chart shit list I'm just 1 iq away from genius level but that's complete bs, that 1 iq wouldn't do shit
Geniuses can do the things they can because there's a difference that's not normal in there brain activity mainly
I think lol

Even in a ilimitate lifespan?

lower iq people could never see things and patterns that genius could see?

even with motivation and time

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

No, if they are sufficiently low IQ then no. If we can theoretically increase someone's IQ is another question, but assuming a static IQ that is very low, then we are talking about not even understand hypotheticals.

An average IQ persons (or low IQ) could never be capable to do things like NASA or Tesla?

or more High IQ things

Even with ilimitate amount of time in life?

They never be capable of see certains Patterns a genius could do?

 

[Tenres]

An average IQ persons (or low IQ) could never be capable to do things like NASA or Tesla?

or more High IQ things

Even with ilimitate amount of time in life?

They never be capable of see certains Patterns a genius could do?

You could perhaps try to increase neuroplasticity and learn all you can about logic, mathematics, etc and that might work in improving your intelligence. You'll definitely have a better thought process. I would assume if you think a lot your brain gets more efficient at it. Not sure though.

So maybe you could increase your intelligence, but that kinda negates the premise of the thread. You'd no longer be low IQ.

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

I think about this a lot, and if that's the case, it’s sad that most people aren't able to comprehend a complete view of the world.

We could never comprehend the world because we are limited by our brains

we see things that we are limited to see, the universe and word is infinite more complicated that the things we see and know

we only see Three dimensions

we are limited

 

[Mutumbu]

probably

 

[ltnfraud6ft]

Even in a ilimitate lifespan?

lower iq people could never see things and patterns that genius could see?

even with motivation and time

Infinity is a big big word
With inifity time even people with 50 iq will somehow create everything that once was created by geniuses, not because they turn smart all of a sudden but in a infinity time line there will be infinity times where a lucky decision lead to another lucky occasion that creat things that only geniuses normally created.

Idk if they can ever think the same and recognise the pattern as geniuses, surely not with ease as geniuses can but I think they will gain such a big (infinity) life events that they can see patterns just because they outlived them a billion times not because their brain is connected in a certain way.

Hope you understand this because English is my 3rd language I'll go to sleep now

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

You could perhaps try to increase neuroplasticity and learn all you can about logic, mathematics, etc and that might work in improving your intelligence. You'll definitely have a better thought process. I would assume if you think a lot your brain gets more efficient at it. Not sure though.

So maybe you could increase your intelligence, but that kinda negates the premise of the thread. You'd no longer be low IQ.

But without increasing IQ a person could never be capable of comprehend such things right?

Imagine a Low IQ person, He always gonna have the same iq, Even with a infinite lifespan and motivation he could never do things like Genius can do?

 

[Tenres]

But without increasing IQ a person could never be capable of comprehend such things right?

Imagine a Low IQ person, He always gonna have the same iq, Even with a infinite lifespan and motivation he could never do things like Genius can do?

No, absolutely not

 

[_MVP_]

if u look at my posts u will notice they are diferent from the average poster

so either im much lower iq than them

or much higher

i think u know the answer

 

[_MVP_]

and on time: with an infinite amount of time even an idiot could become smart

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

Infinity is a big big word
With inifity time even people with 50 iq will somehow create everything that once was created by geniuses, not because they turn smart all of a sudden but in a infinity time line there will be infinity times where a lucky decision lead to another lucky occasion that creat things that only geniuses normally created.

Idk if they can ever think the same and recognise the pattern as geniuses, surely not with ease as geniuses can but I think they will gain such a big (infinity) life events that they can see patterns just because they outlived them a billion times not because their brain is connected in a certain way.

Hope you understand this because English is my 3rd language I'll go to sleep now

i understand and thats very assertive

but i mean without increasing the IQ

 

[sub5mumbaifinalboss]

No, absolutely not

Brutal i cant comprehend this

imagine infinite, fucking infinite

and a person with 70 IQ with all the motivation and time, he would never be capable of doing such things or see things that genius do?

He need to be capable somehow without increasing IQ

 

[_MVP_]

some people are so low iq though, im afraid even in a million of years they wouldnt achieve shit

but the average dude iq 111 would become a god in million years