Do these height techniques work?

[AbuSdanteet]

1.)Microfractures + over the bed stretching (substantiated via zhang’s law which states bones can lengthen under pressure)

2.) LSJL

 

[waitingallmylife]

just do maasai jumps bro

 

[AbuSdanteet]

just do maasai jumps bro

Zhang's law of dynamic deformation of bone is a supplement to Wolff's law, focusing on how bone morphology adapts to long-term loads throughout life, including after skeletal maturity. It describes how bone shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment change in response to mechanical stress.

Law of dynamic deformation of bone - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[HTNGrevious]

Zhang's law of dynamic deformation of bone is a supplement to Wolff's law, focusing on how bone morphology adapts to long-term loads throughout life, including after skeletal maturity. It describes how bone shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment change in response to mechanical stress.

Law of dynamic deformation of bone - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

and no none of those methods work the massai jumps was a joke

 

[nnavic]

Zhang's law of dynamic deformation of bone is a supplement to Wolff's law, focusing on how bone morphology adapts to long-term loads throughout life, including after skeletal maturity. It describes how bone shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment change in response to mechanical stress.

Law of dynamic deformation of bone - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You'd be lucky to get a few mm of bone growth in years out of that which is not worth the effort

 

[AbuSdanteet]

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and no none of those methods work the massai jumps was a joke

So you deny the science and just say it doesn’t work. What logical counterargument do you have in order to substantiate your presupposition?

 

[AbuSdanteet]

You'd be lucky to get a few mm of bone growth in years out of that which is not worth the effort

I feel like if you do it for 1-2 years you can gain a solid 1-3 inches which is pretty good. Especially if you combine it with extended cycling and sleep stretching. Don’t you think all these methods in conjunction will give you more prosperous results than a few mm in years?

 

[AbuSdanteet]

@Orc

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Bump.

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

no

 

[fwdlorak2]

Sorry but what’s LSJL?

 

[AbuSdanteet]

no

Why

Sorry but what’s LSJL?

lateral synovial joint loading.

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

Why

Because bread tastes better than key

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Come on chat.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Zhang's law of dynamic deformation of bone is a supplement to Wolff's law, focusing on how bone morphology adapts to long-term loads throughout life, including after skeletal maturity. It describes how bone shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment change in response to mechanical stress.

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Law of dynamic deformation of bone - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Zhang's law of dynamic deformation of bone is a supplement to Wolff's law, focusing on how bone morphology adapts to long-term loads throughout life, including after skeletal maturity. It describes how bone shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment change in response to mechanical stress.

Law of dynamic deformation of bone - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@LLcel

 

[LLcel]

@LLcel

there was some russian i think that did banded stretching ever night for like 8 years and grew a substantial amount at 30+, im not sure if he incorporated microfracturing into his routine but i think that only applies in extreme scenarios where you have a mechanical pressure loading the bones and creating the fractures, there was a thread about some crazy richel method with all kinds of red light devices etc but i dont have it. if ur willing to look into these and ur still below 20 id research HGH related topics first just to set the foundation then once thats done you can move onto modifications of your exercises to help squeeze whatevers left of your height.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

there was some russian i think that did banded stretching ever night for like 8 years and grew a substantial amount at 30+, im not sure if he incorporated microfracturing into his routine but i think that only applies in extreme scenarios where you have a mechanical pressure loading the bones and creating the fractures, there was a thread about some crazy richel method with all kinds of red light devices etc but i dont have it. if ur willing to look into these and ur still below 20 id research HGH related topics first just to set the foundation then once thats done you can move onto modifications of your exercises to help squeeze whatevers left of your height.

Well I’m already 20 pushing 21. So I can’t grow taller via exogenous hormones anymore as my growth plates are closed.

All I can do is cope with microfractures + cycling + stretching the microfractures for one hour over the bed.

I’m fine with gaining even one inch. I’m already 6’0 tall barefoot. Just looking to add an inch or 2 (or more if possible) cuz why tf not at this point.

I just want to know if there’s any validity behind these methods.

 

[soggra]

there was some russian i think that did banded stretching ever night for like 8 years and grew a substantial amount at 30+, im not sure if he incorporated microfracturing into his routine but i think that only applies in extreme scenarios where you have a mechanical pressure loading the bones and creating the fractures, there was a thread about some crazy richel method with all kinds of red light devices etc but i dont have it. if ur willing to look into these and ur still below 20 id research HGH related topics first just to set the foundation then once thats done you can move onto modifications of your exercises to help squeeze whatevers left of your height.

That’s Hueters Volkmans law. The more you stretch the more you grow

 

[soggra]

1.)Microfractures + over the bed stretching (substantiated via zhang’s law which states bones can lengthen under pressure)

2.) LSJL

They are both effective for height growth especially #1

You can also add in heelsmashing

Heel smashing is based off of frosts law where the harder you hit on the bone the more it grows

 

[AbuSdanteet]

That’s Hueters Volkmans law. The more you stretch the more you grow

I thought stretching only works in conjunction with microfractures. It actually works on its own..?

 

[AbuSdanteet]

They are both effective for height growth especially #1

You can also add in heelsmashing

Heel smashing is based off of frosts law where the harder you hit on the bone the more it grows

Idk how valid LSJL is ngl, but method 1 Sesms promising. Have you done this? If so did u get results?

 

[soggra]

I thought stretching only works in conjunction with microfractures. It actually works on its own..?

Yes, works on its own Neck rings for example who are used by Kayan people have lengthened the height of their necks with it

 

[soggra]

Idk how valid LSJL is ngl, but method 1 Sesms promising. Have you done this? If so did u get results?

I’ve been doing inconsistently for about a year and grown 1 inch taller from that and from heel smashing. I haven’t done LSJL though

 

[soggra]

I thought stretching only works in conjunction with microfractures. It actually works on its own..?

These people have lengthened their necks with this so yes stretching works on its own

Hueters Volkmans law.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

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These people have lengthened their necks with this so yes stretching works on its own

Hueters Volkmans law.

So basically I should sleep stretch by attaching the rope to my ankles?

 

[soggra]

So basically I should sleep stretch by attaching the rope to my ankles?

Yes, you can also add in the neck rings there’s a discord height growth server and they do it

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yes, you can also add in the neck rings there’s a discord height growth server and they do it

Well I don’t want my neck any longer ngl.



So my protocol is as follows:

1.) microfractures
2.) stretch the microfractures via over the bed method

3.) sleep stretching
4.) cycling with raised seat.

Is this good? I wonder how much growth I can get if I do this for a year straight. The other guy was saying microfractures would just give a few millimeters in the span of years.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

I feel like if you do it for 1-2 years you can gain a solid 1-3 inches which is pretty good. Especially if you combine it with extended cycling and sleep stretching. Don’t you think all these methods in conjunction will give you more prosperous results than a few mm in years?

1-3 atoms you mean?

 

[sillybilly]

1.)Microfractures + over the bed stretching (substantiated via zhang’s law which states bones can lengthen under pressure)

2.) LSJL

maasai jumps and mewing brah!

 

[AbuSdanteet]

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These people have lengthened their necks with this so yes stretching works on its own

Hueters Volkmans law.

I told some guy about this law and he responded this:

“Stretching increases height: False, there is no evidence that stretching increases height permanently. It may reduce your spinal compression temporarily. stretching your muscles and connective tissues will not increase osteoblast proliferation lol.“

What’s ur thoughts

 

[Copercel]

1.)Microfractures + over the bed stretching (substantiated via zhang’s law which states bones can lengthen under pressure)

2.) LSJL

No.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

No.

Elaborate

 

[AbuSdanteet]

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These people have lengthened their necks with this so yes stretching works on its own

Hueters Volkmans law.

I also asked chatgpt about this neck method, it said:

Despite appearances, the neck doesn’t actually elongate. What happens is:

• The collarbone and ribs are pushed down and compressed.
• The illusion of a longer neck is created because of this downward pressure and the elevated appearance of the neck.

 

[nnavic]

I feel like if you do it for 1-2 years you can gain a solid 1-3 inches which is pretty good. Especially if you combine it with extended cycling and sleep stretching. Don’t you think all these methods in conjunction will give you more prosperous results than a few mm in years?

That's wrong and biologically literally impossible.
Source: Common sense + My biology teacher

 

[Copercel]

Elaborate

They simply won’t work. You can’t grow with micro fractures.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

They simply won’t work. You can’t grow with micro fractures.

Prove it.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

That's wrong and biologically literally impossible.
Source: Common sense + My biology teacher

You can’t say that’s wrong without substantiating it though. How is it impossible?


Your “source” is an appeal to common sense fallacy as well as an appeal to authority fallacy.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

@Clavicular @Orc @5.5psl

 

[Zeekie]

1.)Microfractures + over the bed stretching (substantiated via zhang’s law which states bones can lengthen under pressure)

2.) LSJL

No. Just because something is validated with a "law" doesn't mean it works. I could make any shit up, say it works by some obscure biological law established 200 years ago that could loosely enable what I'm describing it, and it would still be some made up shit.

Microfractures DO NOT vertically extend your bones to any significant degree, and doing over the bed stretching will not help the case either.

 

[nnavic]

You can’t say that’s wrong without substantiating it though. How is it impossible?


Your “source” is an appeal to common sense fallacy as well as an appeal to authority fallacy.

Because you can't create that much material from nowhere which is basically what those retarded "laws" are implying, they're called microfractures for a reason and that's because they're so fucking tiny it would take you ages to even grow those out a few mm and I haven't seen a single study about them that promises that much bone growth.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

No. Just because something is validated with a "law" doesn't mean it works.

That’s literally the whole point of scientific laws.

Microfractures DO NOT vertically extend your bones to any significant degree, and doing over the bed stretching will not help the case either.

Except they do, as zhang’s law establishes this scientifically.

Here are studies in this short 5 minute video showcasing this:

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Because you can't create that much material from nowhere which is basically what those retarded "laws" are implying, they're called microfractures for a reason and that's because they're so fucking tiny it would take you ages to even grow those out a few mm and I haven't seen a single study about them that promises that much bone growth.

How are those laws retarded? Are you against science now? Yes those fractures are tiny but over time you can gain significant length. If you do microfractures in conjunction with raised seat cycling and sleep stretching, this could potentially signal to the body that it needs to grow taller and thus adds significant height. Arm wrestlers like Devon Larret has one arm longer than the other because he puts more force on one arm as opposed to the other, and he noticed this significant gain over just 2 years which isn’t much.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

No. Just because something is validated with a "law" doesn't mean it works. I could make any shit up, say it works by some obscure biological law established 200 years ago that could loosely enable what I'm describing it, and it would still be some made up shit.

Microfractures DO NOT vertically extend your bones to any significant degree, and doing over the bed stretching will not help the case either.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

No. Just because something is validated with a "law" doesn't mean it works. I could make any shit up, say it works by some obscure biological law established 200 years ago that could loosely enable what I'm describing it, and it would still be some made up shit.

Microfractures DO NOT vertically extend your bones to any significant degree, and doing over the bed stretching will not help the case either.

Respond bro. Don’t run away

 

[nnavic]

How are those laws retarded? Are you against science now? Yes those fractures are tiny but over time you can gain significant length. If you do microfractures in conjunction with raised seat cycling and sleep stretching, this could potentially signal to the body that it needs to grow taller and thus adds significant height. Arm wrestlers like Devon Larret has one arm longer than the other because he puts more force on one arm as opposed to the other, and he noticed this significant gain over just 2 years which isn’t much.

The example you gave was debunked numerous times before. He has his arms placed spaced differently from each other which is why one is closer to the camera and appears bigger.

 

[Zeekie]

Respond bro. Don’t run away

I was going to, then I realized I would actually have to read research and have to cite shit to debunk allat, I don't care enough to do that, believe what you want to believe brah If you actually read some of those studies through you can see how he's heavily cherry-picking information from the studies, fractures will cause bone remodeling, but by no means is that enough to create meaningful amounts of longitudinal adaptations.

Devon's case is also more than likely a case of tendon and joint laxity. Your bones will not grow meaningfully from microfractures or being stretches, bone is a composite material, it's stiff and rigid with extremely low elasticity.

But again, am I willing to go in depth into any of this and have to actually research this shit? No, believe and do what you want. You win, I guess

 

[AbuSdanteet]

The example you gave was debunked numerous times before. He has his arms placed spaced differently from each other which is why one is closer to the camera and appears bigger.

Nope, he put them at the exact same place. Can you show me evidence it’s been debunked?

I was going to, then I realized I would actually have to read research and have to cite shit to debunk allat, I don't care enough to do that, believe what you want to believe brah If you actually read some of those studies through you can see how he's heavily cherry-picking information from the studies, fractures will cause bone remodeling, but by no means is that enough to create meaningful amounts of longitudinal adaptations.

Devon's case is also more than likely a case of tendon and joint laxity. Your bones will not grow meaningfully from microfractures or being stretches, bone is a composite material, it's stiff and rigid with extremely low elasticity.

But again, am I willing to go in depth into any of this and have to actually research this shit? No, believe and do what you want. You win, I guess

You said fractures won’t cause longitudinal adaptations, yet the studies showcase this. And you still haven’t debunked zhang’s law which clearly showcases that bones under pressure can ELONGATE. What aren’t you understanding?

Devon’s case has nothing to do with joint/tendon laxity, those have nothing to go with one arm being longer than the other. His case is a prime example of one arm being put under more pressure and ending up longer than the other arm.

Also, you’re wrong about bones not having plasticity. Zhang’s law and Wolff’s law clearly prove this. Bones are able to change and elongate when put under certain kinds of pressure.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

I was going to, then I realized I would actually have to read research and have to cite shit to debunk allat, I don't care enough to do that, believe what you want to believe brah If you actually read some of those studies through you can see how he's heavily cherry-picking information from the studies, fractures will cause bone remodeling, but by no means is that enough to create meaningful amounts of longitudinal adaptations.

Devon's case is also more than likely a case of tendon and joint laxity. Your bones will not grow meaningfully from microfractures or being stretches, bone is a composite material, it's stiff and rigid with extremely low elasticity.

But again, am I willing to go in depth into any of this and have to actually research this shit? No, believe and do what you want. You win, I guess

https://web.mit.edu/mbuehler/www/research/PTO000041.pdf