Do western Africans Carry Berberid Ancestry

[Deleted member 10987]

Arabs weren't subhumans, they made an empire from China to France and down to the depths of Lybia. Jfl if you think Abyssinia couldn't be conquered, the reason for it is that the Ummayads for focused on the East and West back then, and they collapsed too early before conquering east africa

Arabs collapsed because they abandoned their nomadic ways

 

[Deleted member 10987]

JFL they didn’t lose to absynnia it was the Nubians they first lost to when they tried going south in Egypt and they kept losing

But after they got subjugated anyway

 

[Beetlejuice]

 

[Deleted member 13994]

That would explain why igbo nigerians are lightskin

 

[hairyballscel]

That would explain why igbo nigerians are lightskin

not really, they have very little north african ancestry, even less than yorubas who are pretty darkskinned on average

 

[Deleted member 13994]

not really, they have very little north african ancestry, even less than yorubas who are pretty darkskinned on average

Then they must be white from the slave trade

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Most do not, some do like Fulani and generally along the sahel, West Africans are also not bantus, berber skin tone is fairly light, never seen a black person with that skin colour, it's even rare to find mullatos with that skin colour

I Googled "Fulani people" and ngl they look like a hybrid of black and Yemeni/MENA

 

[hairyballscel]

Then they must be white from the slave trade

what? explain that?

white slave masters raped black slaves when they were in america, not in africa

 

[Deleted member 13994]

what? explain that?

white slave masters raped black slaves when they were in america, not in africa

They set up like camps for people that captured them in that country. Plus west Africa has been invaded by like half of Europe do you not think someone would have raped at least one of their women. There is no biological advantage for a West African to be lighter skinned.

 

[Gengar]

He was a Berber/Maghrebi
But anyway i kinda hate this cuck for revealing intel to Timur

why hate on timur, he was based. he was an undefeated military leader, he was related to genghis khan but genghis wasnt undefeated if we count his earlier battles as a teenager. timur deserves peoples respect for his status as an undefeated military leader.

 

[Gengar]

He was at Damascus when Timur was sieging the city
He was sent as envoy for he dont attack the city but he kinda befriended him and convinced him to Spare Damascus
Timur of course didnt respect his word and the city was destroyed
But apparently that faggot basically gave a detailed account of north africa to timur during the talk
What a fucking snitch bitch, we nearly faced one of the destructive son of a bitch
Not that im afraid of losing, we will have found a way of beating him but i would rather not fight timur

actually no it seems very very unlikely that you would have beaten timur, he was undefeated like i said earlier, ibn khaldun was definitely low iq to reveal it to someone whos so skilled in war though

 

[Deleted member 10987]

why hate on timur, he was based. he was an undefeated military leader, he was related to genghis khan but genghis wasnt undefeated if we count his earlier battles as a teenager. timur deserves peoples respect for his status as an undefeated military leader.

You dont understand
This retard gave infos about north africa to Timur

You dont make the connection ?

 

[Deleted member 10987]

actually no it seems very very unlikely that you would have beaten timur, he was undefeated like i said earlier, ibn khaldun was definitely low iq to reveal it to someone whos so skilled in war though

We could bro
All the dynasties he defeated were weaklings beside ottomans and ottomans literally got betrayed in battle

 

[Gengar]

You dont understand
This retard gave infos about north africa to Timur

You dont make the connection ?

i understand what you said, just your last part of the message is simply not true.

We could bro
All the dynasties he defeated were weaklings beside ottomans and ottomans literally got betrayed in battle

no bro he was feared for a good reason as well as undefeated for a good reason. i understand you are proud of being maghrebi but you have to be realistic at the same time

 

[Deleted member 10987]

i understand what you said, just your last part of the message is simply not true.

no bro he was feared for a good reason as well as undefeated for a good reason. i understand you are proud of being maghrebi but you have to be realistic at the same time

I know but other way around
If i go going "OMG HE IS A GOD" of course he is gonna beat us
You need to go balanced
Also bro, what Powerful people he defeated apart ottomans and even them were weakened at this time

 

[Gengar]

I know but other way around
If i go going "OMG HE IS A GOD" of course he is gonna beat us
You need to go balanced
Also bro, what Powerful people he defeated apart ottomans and even them were weakened at this time

yh of course if my ancestors thought that way about the mongols then they would have defeated us for sure but luckily we were the ones to defeat them a good amount of times. hypothetically speaking you would think such an achievement is impossible as the mongols successfully subjugated pretty much everyone else, but it still worked. so obviously theres a chance that you could have defeated timur but it seems more like 10% chance and thats a generous estimate. i will have to read more about timurs achievements though and see what the north africans were like at that time

 

[Deleted member 10987]

yh of course if my ancestors thought that way about the mongols then they would have defeated us for sure but luckily we were the ones to defeat them a good amount of times. hypothetically speaking you would think such an achievement is impossible as the mongols successfully subjugated pretty much everyone else, but it still worked. so obviously theres a chance that you could have defeated timur but it seems more like 10% chance and thats a generous estimate. i will have to read more about timurs achievements though and see what the north africans were like at that time

They had Almohads/Almoravids
Powerful Caliphates that are underrated tbh

 

[Deleted member 4696]

white skin in berbers is unlikely to be indigenous, its not ideal in north african climate, lightskin in general is indigenous but not white skin

thats not true.north africa also has cold climate,many nafris are very very light.because of the sahara many are very dark like black dark basically.most are a mix of both

 

[Deleted member 10987]

thats not true.north africa also has cold climate,many nafris are very very light.because of the sahara many are very dark like black dark basically.most are a mix of both

Winters in algeria are colder than france kek
Also those in Saharas took Black wives with them tbh

 

[Deleted member 4696]

Winters in algeria are colder than france kek
Also those in Saharas took Black wives with them tbh

even lions adapted to the cold in the atlas mountains region,look at this mogger sub-species.do you know why they went extint tbh?

 

[Deleted member 10987]

even lions adapted to the cold in the atlas mountains region,look at this mogger sub-species.do you know why they went extint tbh?

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Frogs
We should reintroduce them i think or maybe even import foreign species to diversy maghrebi fauna

 

[Deleted member 4696]

Frogs
We should reintroduce them i think or maybe even import foreign species to diversy maghrebi fauna

i heard they are trying that already,trying to bring atlas lions back mixing african lions and royal lions descendent from the king of morocco's collection of lions or some shit like that.there were alot of mogger species over there,shame tbh

 

[Deleted member 10987]

i heard they are trying that already,trying to bring atlas lions back mixing african lions and royal lions descendent from the king of morocco's collection of lions or some shit like that.there were alot of mogger species over there,shame tbh

What do you think about the foreign species thing ?

We coule save those from extinction

 

[Deleted member 4696]

What do you think about the foreign species thing ?
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i think thats tough, cause we gotta look at if the species can survive there and whatnot,its not as simple as take a fucking exotic animal and put it wherever you feel like.bringing back hyenas and atlas lions tho is great cause thats where they originally were from so there wouldnt be a problem.for example i dont know if white tigers can survive in the maghreb

 

[Deleted member 10987]

i think thats tough, cause we gotta look at if the species can survive there and whatnot,its not as simple as take a fucking exotic animal and put it wherever you feel like.bringing back hyenas and atlas lions tho is great cause thats where they originally were from so there wouldnt be a problem.for example i dont know if white tigers can survive in the maghreb

They could
Also they are in extinction where they live cause of insectoids

 

[Deleted member 4696]

They could
Also they are in extinction where they live cause of insectoids

assuming researchers are sure they can survive i would have no issue with that ofc

 

[hairyballscel]

They set up like camps for people that captured them in that country. Plus west Africa has been invaded by like half of Europe do you not think someone would have raped at least one of their women. There is no biological advantage for a West African to be lighter skinned.

look at genetic studies of igbo people, they have absolutely 0 european ancestry, literally none

europeans did not settle in west africa

 

[Deleted member 10987]

look at genetic studies of igbo people, they have absolutely 0 european ancestry, literally none

europeans did not settle in west africa

What about those iberians mercenaries of Saadians that settled in Mali

 

[hairyballscel]

What about those iberians mercenaries of Saadians that settled in Mali

They produced the Arma people, very few other ethnic groups were affected

They didnt impact mali to the point where their influence was widespread and subsequently affecting other ethnic groups seeing as european ancestry is absent from mali, berbers carry ancesty from the iberian neolithic which could have acted as an intemdiary for iberian ancestry in mali but even then, euro dna in mali(excluding berbers like tuaregs) is extremely miniscule

 

[Deleted member 13994]

look at genetic studies of igbo people, they have absolutely 0 european ancestry, literally none

europeans did not settle in west africa

"Another explanation could be linked to the huge role the Igbo people played in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade in the 18th and 19th centuries. At least 2 million African slaves were exported to the New World from the predominantly Igbo-speaking areas of south-eastern Nigeria, and the Igbos had extensive and deep slave-trading ties with White Europeans (especially the British). It is very possible that a good amount of racial admixture between Igbos and White Europeans occurring as a result of the two races interbreeding with each other happened in these historical times; of course that did happen, but on what scale, we simply cannot say at this point."

 

[Deleted member 10987]

They produced the Arma people, very few other ethnic groups were affected

They didnt impact mali to the point where their influence was widespread and subsequently affecting other ethnic groups seeing as european ancestry is absent from mali, berbers carry ancesty from the iberian neolithic which could have acted as an intemdiary for iberian ancestry in mali but even then, euro dna in mali(excluding berbers like tuaregs) is extremely miniscule

Tell me more about arma people

Also that iberian DNA is maternal too
We received a influx of Western Eurasian Maternal DNA (20 %) in neolithic

 

[hairyballscel]

"Another explanation could be linked to the huge role the Igbo people played in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade in the 18th and 19th centuries. At least 2 million African slaves were exported to the New World from the predominantly Igbo-speaking areas of south-eastern Nigeria, and the Igbos had extensive and deep slave-trading ties with White Europeans (especially the British). It is very possible that a good amount of racial admixture between Igbos and White Europeans occurring as a result of the two races interbreeding with each other happened in these historical times; of course that did happen, but on what scale, we simply cannot say at this point."

post just one genetic study showing igbo people have significant western european ancestry, you can't because it doesn't exist

the blue represent non african related ancestry, look how much the igbo bar has.... none.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

Show me a study that doesn't point they played a role in the slave trade. You cant admit that the reason they are light skin is because of White people.

post just one genetic study showing igbo people have significant western european ancestry, you can't because it doesn't exist

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the blue represent non african related ancestry, look how much the igbo bar has.... none.

 

[hairyballscel]

Tell me more about arma people

there isn't much to know, they are descendants of the moroccan invaders of the Saadi dynasty during the 16th century

Also that iberian DNA is maternal too
We received a influx of Western Eurasian Maternal DNA (20 %) in neolithic

yhh neolithic west asians mixed with berbers, idk how they got there and much about them tbqh, i've mostly focused research on taforalt

 

[Deleted member 10987]

there isn't much to know, they are descendants of the moroccan invaders of the Saadi dynasty during the 16th century

yhh neolithic west asians mixed with berbers, idk how they got there and much about them tbqh, i've mostly focused research on taforalt

Apparently females crossed gibraltar for the Big Berber Cock
Weird

 

[Deleted member 10987]

there isn't much to know, they are descendants of the moroccan invaders of the Saadi dynasty during the 16th century

yhh neolithic west asians mixed with berbers, idk how they got there and much about them tbqh, i've mostly focused research on taforalt

Where do they live ?
What they look like ?

 

[hairyballscel]

Show me a study that doesn't point they played a role in the slave trade.

i never once made that claim, many different african groups played a role in the slave trade, this means nothing

You cant admit that the reason they are light skin is because of White people.

jfl the study i posted literally proves that igbo people carry no non african ancestry, let alone european, none

 

[buckchadley31]

Where do they live ?
What they look like ?

Los Arma, andalusíes en Tombuctú | Sociedad Geográfica Española

sge.org

It's in Spanish tho

 

[hairyballscel]

Where do they live ?
What they look like ?

they live in mali and niger along the river often around the bend, there arent many of them, less than 30,000

im not sure what they look like, i can't find pics online, whatever the Moroccan Saadi army looked like i guess

the dynasty was said to have originated somewhere in southern morocco so i guess a typical brown/black southern moroccan? but at the same the moors often sourced people from all over the maghreb and west africa for their army so i really don't know

 

[Deleted member 10987]

they live in mali and niger along the river often around the bend, there arent many of them, less than 30,000

im not sure what they look like, i can't find pics online, whatever the Moroccan Saadi army looked like i guess

the dynasty was said to have originated somewhere in southern morocco so i guess a typical brown/black southern moroccan? but at the same the moors often sourced people from all over the maghreb and west africa for their army so i really don't know

Or maybe they got assimilated genetically

 

[hairyballscel]

Or maybe they got assimilated genetically

https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/albrech/Goths.pdf

this is what you're looking for

and yhh some of them definitely intermarried, seeing as they were all muslim it would have made inter marriage pretty easy

 

[Deleted member 10987]

https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/albrech/Goths.pdf

this is what you're looking for

and yhh some of them definitely intermarried, seeing as they were all muslim it would have made inter marriage pretty easy

Goths ??

 

[hairyballscel]

Goths ??

i need to learn arabic and translate some of these manuscripts tbh

 

[Deleted member 10987]

i need to learn arabic and translate some of these manuscripts tbh

Mirin Historian

 

[Deleted member 10987]

i need to learn arabic and translate some of these manuscripts tbh

Me too need to learn Arabic and Amazigh

 

[St. Wristcel]

when did niggers ever win?

enslaved by every possible race, everyone looks at yall as animals, u guys cant even go for a walk without being profiled by the police, youve been losers for all of history

Chill nigga

 

[Deleted member 13094]

they will have quapa ancestry in the future after all the algerian girls i've fucked

 

[Deleted member 6128]

even lions adapted to the cold in the atlas mountains region,look at this mogger sub-species.do you know why they went extint tbh?

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Fucking looks malnourished

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Fucking looks malnourished

They eat a lot more if they were still wild
Those Lions are the biggest lions of the planet basically

 

[Deleted member 4696]

Fucking looks malnourished

still facial hair mogs the whole forum to clean shaving