Do women really believe they are 10s?

[DoctorLooksmax]

Nah. Sure, like most people, they overestimate their attractiveness but I think they probably realize they are not supermodels. Women are way more blackpilled than you think and get a lot of feedback from others over the course of their lives.

I think there was actually a study done that showed men overestimate their looks level to greater extent than what women do - but both genders had a tendency to overrate themselevs somewhat

 

[Pakicel]

I think there was actually a study done that showed men overestimate their looks level to greater extent than what women do - but both genders had a tendency to overrate themselevs somewhat

Yeah. That lines up with my experiences too. Most men don't get that much feedback on their looks throughout their lives, especially in my culture. A lot of them tend to underestimate the looks disparities between themselves and the women they are going for. I think this is why a lot of incels believe in 'hypergamy'.

 

[itisoverboyos]

They are. They are 10s. Women have infinite SMV.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Insecure women don't exist. It's a myth to make people have more sympathy for women.

Both of my ex-girlfriends would complain that 'it's too easy to attract men'. They are overwhelmed with validation, attention and compliments.

It's cagefuel how privileged women are.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

This
They are biologically wired to feel insecure in the presence of a male who is not their husband or a partner they can trust
If they talk to you with no inhibition at all it means they don't consider you a treat aKa low fighting success, what you get for being a skinny manlet incel

Not entirely true. Some Bitches will cold approach chads etc without being shy it’s a perosnlity thing

I dated a foid who was too nervous to speak to me and I overheard her say “I’ll only speak to him if he speaks to me” so some have a big ego as well even if they are nervous. Obvs cos I heard this I knew I couldn’t fail so I spoke to her and within 3 weeks I was slamming that pussy.

 

[Pakicel]

Insecure women don't exist. It's a myth to make people have more sympathy for women.

Both of my ex-girlfriends would complain that 'it's too easy to attract men'. They are overwhelmed with validation, attention and compliments.

It's cagefuel how privileged women are.

Dude, your ex-gfs are privileged amongst women. Most of the women I know personally were forcibly married to truecels and get raped/abused by them. Maybe, it is different in my culture but I don't think even your 'privileged' ex-gfs are as happy as you think. Sure, they get lots of validation and compliments but a lot of it is from guys they don't even want it from. Oldcels, ethnics, very ugly men etc.

 

[Pakicel]

Insecure women don't exist. It's a myth to make people have more sympathy for women.

Both of my ex-girlfriends would complain that 'it's too easy to attract men'. They are overwhelmed with validation, attention and compliments.

It's cagefuel how privileged women are.

You are the biggest abused dog on here btw. You should just geomax to asia and live like a king there. But you haven't even bothered to looksmax properly. Get HT and something for your folds. Gymmax as much as possible and wear lifts and you should do well. You have a basis to work with. Many here don't.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Do ugly girls really think they are 10s? Like they think they’re Lima’s level? Or perfect? I don’t think they truly believe they are 10s, and it’s just over compensating.

It’s because they find delusional confidence attractive so they try to mirror it and become more attractive to men. It’s the same way bluepilled men try to compliment their way into pussy. They would be happy if their crush complimented them so they’d want to compliment her to make her happy

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Dude, your ex-gfs are privileged amongst women. Most of the women I know personally were forcibly married to truecels and get raped/abused by them. Maybe, it is different in my culture but I don't think even your 'privileged' ex-gfs are as happy as you think. Sure, they get lots of validation and compliments but a lot of it is from guys they don't even want it from. Oldcels, ethnics, very ugly men etc.

Well obviously theres a big difference between third world Pakistan and the Netherlands.

There's no arranged marriage, no rape, no abuse in this country. The worst thing happening to women is being catcalled and the government has recently accepted legislation that allows for fines up to 500 dollar for catcalling.

But there's a lawsuit going on right now from a guy that claims catcalling falls under freedom of speech, so it's not clear yet whether it's allowed to catcall or not in the future, but u can get fined for it right now.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

You are the biggest abused dog on here btw. You should just geomax to asia and live like a king there. But you haven't even bothered to looksmax properly. Get HT and something for your folds. Gymmax as much as possible and wear lifts and you should do well. You have a basis to work with. Many here don't.

folds are unfixable retard. There's no looksmaxxing for it.

i already have a hairstyle that hides my norwood, so it's obvious that HT won't ascend me.
I already wear lifts
I already gymcel

netherlands is uncompareable to pakistan. Here it's chad or death.

 

[Moggie]

I will give you a piece of advice: stop asking for ratings.

ratings are cope at a certain stage

 

[Moggie]

White = fakecel

 

[Jigen]

Unless your one of the 3. (aspie, severely deformed looking or well below avg height) you can’t be incel if white.

 

[Pakicel]

folds are unfixable retard. There's no looksmaxxing for it.

Fillers? Implants?

i already have a hairstyle that hides my norwood, so it's obvious that HT won't ascend me.

Not the same thing as having a proper fade with good hairline.

I already wear lifts
I already gymcel

I have seen your body. You aren't properly gymcelled.

 

[Pakicel]

Unless your one of the 3. (aspie, severely deformed looking or well below avg height) you can’t be incel if white.

Or you just have high standards.

 

[Survivor95]

Do ugly girls really think they are 10s? Like they think they’re Lima’s level? Or perfect? I don’t think they truly believe they are 10s, and it’s just over compensating.

No, but they do to enhance there self esteem

 

[Pakicel]

ratings are cope at a certain stage

Ratings on here are garbage and do not correlate with IRL appeal. It's just a pointless distraction for most users tbh.

Also, most people here fraud tf out of their pics. People getting rated 4-5 PSL are prolly 3-3.5 PSL IRL.

 

[Deleted member 22705]

But it depends on how ugly. Imo, as long as you are at least 3 PSL overall, you have a chance with most women I guess. Depends on your personality and other factors too.

This doesn't make sense. A 3 PSL is around 3.5-4/10 normie rating. Someone like that will almost certainly be truecel. I have never seen couples where the guy is below 4.5/10 normie rating, which is around 3.75 PSL. Where are you getting this from? Maybe it could work if a guy's white and running JBW on ethnic women, but there's no way an ethnic 3 PSL will get a girl.