Do you believe body count and virginity is “different” for a man than a woman

[luuk]

I hear this a lot and to be honest I don’t see a coherent defence of it. Yeah it would be cool to have a woman that hasn’t fucked anyone but me but I think its immensely hypocritical to apply chastisty standards on women that you don’t follow yourself.

Don’t fuck random Becky’s from the club if you want your chaste MTB tradwife. And don’t be mad if she’s boring in bed and probably doesn’t have a high sex drive because she wouldn’t be a virgin if she did.

Yeah its easier for a woman to get laid but the “lock and key” stuff is a weak argument, it being harder for you to gain access to sex doesn’t make it less “defiling” or “impure” to do so imo

 

[chudpiller]

Well, taking a bunch of cock definitely widens the gap so to speak, while cracking a bunch of buns doesn't make your dick smaller. Im with you on the point that people think they are gonna find some freak virgin trad htb just waiting for them to come strolling along.

 

[jxded]

I hear this a lot and to be honest I don’t see a coherent defence of it. Yeah it would be cool to have a woman that hasn’t fucked anyone but me but I think its immensely hypocritical to apply chastisty standards on women that you don’t follow yourself.

Don’t fuck random Becky’s from the club if you want your chaste MTB tradwife. And don’t be mad if she’s boring in bed and probably doesn’t have a high sex drive because she wouldn’t be a virgin if she did.

Yeah its easier for a woman to get laid but the “lock and key” stuff is a weak argument, it being harder for you to gain access to sex doesn’t make it less “defiling” or “impure” to do so imo

high iq take I totally agree

 

[luuk]

Well, taking a bunch of cock definitely widens the gap so to speak, while cracking a bunch of buns doesn't make your dick smaller. Im with you on the point that people think they are gonna find some freak virgin trad htb just waiting for them to come strolling along.

Not really. The female vagina is designed to pass out an entire child, she would have to be moving like Bonnie Blue to get meaningfully looser from penetrative sex alone
Also you neglect the fact that a woman who has 1 LTR probably has taken more cock than a whore with a 30 BC who hasn’t had a relationship because people in relationships fuck all the time and would logically be looser if that was the case

 

[chudpiller]

Not really. The female vagina is designed to pass out an entire child, she would have to be moving like Bonnie Blue to get meaningfully looser from penetrative sex alone
Also you neglect the fact that a woman who has 1 LTR probably has taken more cock than a whore with a 30 BC who hasn’t had a relationship because people in relationships fuck all the time and would logically be looser if that was the case

True, but its safe to assume the 30BC one has taken much bigger due to the standard deviation of sizes

 

[jxded]

although to add on I think women care less about men’s body count than vice versa. also like @chudpiller said a girls vagina will get looser, but a guys dick doesn’t get smaller after a higher body count. morally it’s the same tho

 

[Prøphet]

A man’s value is defined by how many foids he can sleep with, that’s why “virgin” or “intel” is an insult

A woman’s value is defined by how few men she sleeps with, that’s why “whore” is an insult

Both are reflected by how easy/difficult it is for each gender. It’s difficult for a man to be good enough to have a high body count, and it’s difficult for a woman to be good enough to have a low bodycount

Men seek greatness, women preserve greatness

 

[asdvek]

Scoring and conceding a goal isn't the same thing brotherman

 

[luuk]

True, but its safe to assume the 30BC one has taken much bigger due to the standard deviation of sizes

Perhaps
But a girl’s vagina isn’t gonna meaningfully change because she fucked a guy with a monster dong
Very cucked premise that I’m sure a lot of people goon to but not biologically sound
Pregnancy would make a woman literally gaping if a big penis was enough to make her even noticeably looser

 

[luuk]

Scoring and conceding a goal isn't the same thing brotherman

A man’s value is defined by how many foids he can sleep with, that’s why “virgin” or “intel” is an insult

A woman’s value is defined by how few men she sleeps with, that’s why “whore” is an insult

Both are reflected by how easy/difficult it is for each gender

Men seek greatness, women preserve greatness

Neither of these justifies why you just parrot societal conventions
Again, does it being an impressive “slay” make you any less “impure” for your future wife?

 

[Prøphet]

Neither of these justifies why you just parrot societal conventions
Again, does it being an impressive “slay” make you any less “impure” for your future wife?

But purity isn’t important or desirable in a man. If it was, we would shame men with high body counts instead of admire them

Being virgin doesnt make a man pure. It just signals that he’s undesirable. There’s a big difference between what you can do, and what you want to do.

 

[BeanCelll]

Conquering and being conquered aren't exactly the same

 

[Prøphet]

Conquering and being conquered aren't exactly the same

 

[luuk]

But purity isn’t important or desirable in a man. If it was, we would shame men with high body counts instead of admire them

Men with high BCs are prized because they’re hot not because they’ve fucked a lot
Its about looks not experience.

 

[chudpiller]

Perhaps
But a girl’s vagina isn’t gonna meaningfully change because she fucked a guy with a monster dong
Very cucked premise that I’m sure a lot of people goon to but not biologically sound
Pregnancy would make a woman literally gaping if a big penis was enough to make her even noticeably looser

I can't say I am intimately familiar with the research (if there even is any) on the subject. But to address your first point, a baby only goes out once, while a cock goes in and out hundreds of times. Also, pregnancy does make women looser.

 

[yussimania]

a man's value isn't in his virginity and his body count

a woman's value is in her virginity

if she was divorced but played everything by the book as in not fornicating but being a woman who is modest then I would still see her the same regardless since it reflects her mindset which is ultimately the most important thing for a wife to nurture your children

 

[BeanCelll]

it being harder for you to gain access to sex doesn’t make it less “defiling” or “impure” to do so imo

Should have made this the thread title it's legit an entirely different premise

 

[luuk]

These 3 are all the exact same argument that I addressed in the initial post
It doesn’t make it any less hypocritical to demand chastity whilst being a whore

 

[1SIS]

i made a poll for this on .com last night for females only

 

[Prøphet]

Men with high BCs are prized because they’re hot not because they’ve fucked a lot
Its about looks not experience.

They’re prized because it signals theyre desirable in a hypergamous society

What makes a man desirable to a woman is fundamentally different than vice Versa

 

[luuk]

i made a poll for this on .com last night for females only
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I actually got ghosted by a girl once a little while after we talked about BC
She claimed to be a virgin and seemed disappointed when I said mine was like 6
Girls at the very least romanticise her being your “first”

They absolutely do NOT like guys having a high body count they just like attractive guys and they usually have to tolerate that to get them

 

[itssoover0457]

if ur a tall gl man and u choose not to have sex with women and are waiting for the right one what does that make you?

 

[luuk]

They’re prized because it signals theyre desirable in a hypergamous society

What makes a man desirable to a woman is fundamentally different than vice Versa

You have it the wrong way around
Men who are prized get high body counts because of it

 

[yussimania]

I actually got ghosted by a girl once a little while after we talked about BC
She claimed to be a virgin and seemed disappointed when I said mine was like 6
Girls at the very least romanticise her being your “first”

They absolutely do NOT like guys having a high body count they just like attractive guys and they usually have to tolerate that to get them

well you weren't attractive enough then

 

[luuk]

if ur a tall gl man and u choose not to have sex with women and are waiting for the right one what does that make you?

Oh I agree
Which leads to the uncomfortable question, is it not logical for a woman that can fuck a man much more attractive than them to do so? Is it not the obvious choice, even, rather than waiting for their looksmatch?

 

[Prøphet]

Men with high BCs are prized because they’re hot not because they’ve fucked a lot
Its about looks not experience.

What I mean basically is

For a man there is no greater proofing of your desirability than body count

For a woman, the proof of her desirability is self evident and given rather than earned

 

[luuk]

well you weren't attractive enough then

She literally asked me on a date and we made out so this is just cope

 

[itssoover0457]

Oh I agree
Which leads to the uncomfortable question, is it not logical for a woman that can fuck a man much more attractive than them to do so? Is it not the obvious choice, even, rather than waiting for their looksmatch?

like i wouldn’t want to have sex with as many women as possible. it feels like i’m doing it for other peoples approval. i have no problem waiting to find the right woman to have sex with. i’m not in a hurry. quality>quantity

 

[yussimania]

She literally asked me on a date and we made out so this is just cope

so at the point of revealing your bodycount she ghosted you even after kissing you? while claiming virgin lol

 

[luuk]

so at the point of revealing your bodycount she ghosted you even after kissing you? while claiming virgin lol

We went on one date before which was pretty spontaneous and drunkenly made out
Then we hung out again sober and were talking about more personal things and it went decent and we texted for a little bit but she just ghosted me after that

I say its about the BC because I was pretty surprised when she said she was a virgin and she seemed pretty sad when I said mine and thought it was a lot (6 at 18 was nothing crazy for a guy at uni tbh)

 

[zWekkk]

when u are a man and fuck a girl that girl is gonna be talking about how good ur dick feels with her friends, her friends gonna talk abt what she said and thats a whole chain of a rumor, so she is gonna promote u around girls so other girls will say "wow i bet he is a great sex i must test if the rumors are real" so the more u fuck being a men ia good to fuck even more, while the more bodys u have being a girl is bad because guys will only say u are a bitch and wont fuck u because of that



basically fucking more while being a men is good because it give u: status around men, sex appeal around girls

while being a girl: it will give you whore reputation and after 3 mans you will see as public pussy

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

It’s not. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves. They just want to be degenerate while criticizing other degenerates.

 

[Eidolon]

It’s not. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves. They just want to be degenerate while criticizing other degenerates.

There is nothing degenerate about fucking

 

[buddhistking]

Tbh ppl will say that it's so different, but if you look at guys with high body counts they tend to be the biggest snakes on the planet, much like the girls with a high body count, especially if they are like HMTNs who think they are chads cus they have had alot of women

The real ppl who tend to be nicer are actual stacies or chads who attract alot of attention from the opposite sex, but don't actually have that many sexual partners, ofc it's not universal tho

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

There is nothing degenerate about fucking

Premarital sex is degenerate.

 

[Wexilarious]

Man and woman should be virgins for life or they will not go to heaven

 

[Eidolon]

Premarital sex is degenerate.

No. Premarital sex is good and natural

 

[niggero0]

Premarital sex is degenerate.

Dw it's not haram when we wear socks

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

No. Premarital sex is good and natural

Cope.

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

Dw it's not haram when we wear socks

Socks or not, if it’s premarital it’s impermissible.

 

[Orc]

Cope.

go to sleep it's almost 4 am.

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

go to sleep it's almost 4 am.

I woke up at 7 PM. My sleeping schedule’s nuked. Why are you still up, bhai?

 

[Orc]

I woke up at 7 PM. My sleeping schedule’s nuked. Why are you still up, bhai?

can't work when everything is frozen over.

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

can't work when everything is frozen over.

It’s bad over there too? Damn. So what is your new sleeping schedule like?

 

[Orc]

It’s bad over there too? Damn. So what is your new sleeping schedule like?

it's worse here there's like 20 cm of snow now compacted into a layer of ice.

 

[Ju-on / 呪怨]

it's worse here there's like 20 cm of snow now compacted into a layer of ice.

Damn! What the hell. I didn’t expect that. Did you go outside yesterday? The wind was so goddamn cold, never experienced that before.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

I hear this a lot and to be honest I don’t see a coherent defence of it. Yeah it would be cool to have a woman that hasn’t fucked anyone but me but I think its immensely hypocritical to apply chastisty standards on women that you don’t follow yourself.

Don’t fuck random Becky’s from the club if you want your chaste MTB tradwife. And don’t be mad if she’s boring in bed and probably doesn’t have a high sex drive because she wouldn’t be a virgin if she did.

Yeah its easier for a woman to get laid but the “lock and key” stuff is a weak argument, it being harder for you to gain access to sex doesn’t make it less “defiling” or “impure” to do so imo

Yes, it's absolutely different. It's about principle and nothing's gonna ever change that. Every man in the world could turn cuck and pretend it's not but in their hearts they still know the truth.

Men fuck and women get fucked. It's as simple as that.

Now the "boring in bed" bit is purely a myth perpetuated by cucks, feminists, and men who are just inexperienced.

When men say "Virgins are boring in bed", what I hear is "I can't get virgins to do it how I like because girls are generally not that attracted to me."

Every virgin I've ever had was taking it like a pornstar, just how I like it, in less than a week after getting her cherry popped. Virgins are extremely malleable, and if they're as attracted to you as they aught to be then they'll be willing to become good at whatever you want. Conversely, it's always the girls who've been around the block too many times who are fucking up by trying too hard to please in bed. Doing stupid shit in a way that I don't like because this guy liked it or because it "drove that guy crazy". Or trying to emulate cliche shit they've seen in porn. Give me a blank slate any day of the week because I know what the fuck to do with it.

 

[larpslayer1488]

I hear this a lot and to be honest I don’t see a coherent defence of it. Yeah it would be cool to have a woman that hasn’t fucked anyone but me but I think its immensely hypocritical to apply chastisty standards on women that you don’t follow yourself.

Don’t fuck random Becky’s from the club if you want your chaste MTB tradwife. And don’t be mad if she’s boring in bed and probably doesn’t have a high sex drive because she wouldn’t be a virgin if she did.

Yeah its easier for a woman to get laid but the “lock and key” stuff is a weak argument, it being harder for you to gain access to sex doesn’t make it less “defiling” or “impure” to do so imo

admittedly it could be my bias but i think being non virgin man is much better than being a non virgin woman. although i think the standard should be applied to everyone despite their genders being a manwhore should've never been cool and isn't cool.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

A man’s value is defined by how many foids he can sleep with, that’s why “virgin” or “intel” is an insult

A woman’s value is defined by how few men she sleeps with, that’s why “whore” is an insult

Both are reflected by how easy/difficult it is for each gender. It’s difficult for a man to be good enough to have a high body count, and it’s difficult for a woman to be good enough to have a low bodycount

Men seek greatness, women preserve greatness

You understand and put it very well. OP and the dudes who agree with him are delusional.

 

[NoExit]

men and women are the same