Do you believe in any god?

Do you believe in any religion

  • yes

    Votes: 50 50.0%
  • no

    Votes: 37 37.0%
  • idk

    Votes: 13 13.0%

  • Total voters
    100
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I don't really believe or disbelief in god. There is no proof if he exists or if he doesn't.
Right but that's not the point of not believing in him. If you lack evidence, why not lack belief? I don't believe clouds are made of milk condens because of the lack of evidence. That's the point of disbelief.
 
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What does that have to do with a cause?
Are you trying to imply that in order for a cause to exist, there needs to be space and time?

By definition yes cause and effect is chronological lmao one has to happen before the next.
 
Big Bang =\= random explosion with no background

Big Bang is just the tip of the ice berg when it comes to the origin of the universe as well, even within the field of science
big bang is investing in the idea that every thing went to plan and there were no roadbumps in creation, do you understand how perfect everything has to be for one bang to create all life on earth as we know it? for this reason I am firmly admanat in the belief of a God, if they think we are delusional why should we accept their theory as law: something which is equally delusional
 
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Yes
 
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The scientific evidence doesn’t lead anywhere near a random explosion. Science if anything is ambiguous on the subject, which is why religiously motivated arguments (such as the first cause and fine tuning argument) are able to be based on principals accepted by the scientific field.
I'm sorry but you ruined the image I had of you.
 
Big Bang is as ridiculous as what atheists claim religion is. You are claiming that a completely random, instantaneous explosion producing the basis for a modern world and its complexity is more believable than an omnipotent being creating it himself? lol.

Science is a religion in and of itself, and its explanations are often as shitty and changeable as that of actual religions. For these reasons I am religious.
 
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god wont help us, its over
 
Even then the deity argument isn't that powerful, since it does tell you what deity to believe in. Seriously, which one? Zeus? The Christian God? The Jewish one? Allah? Thor? The Mayan Gods?
 
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What does that have to do with a cause?
Are you trying to imply that in order for a cause to exist, there needs to be space and time?
Are you seriously this stupid or just trolling.
 
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Why do you keep using the word random as if it's of extreme relevance? Thousands of random things happen every single second. Random doesn't mean illogical.

If anything the fine tuning argument is illogical and holds close to no ground compared to actual theories which thousands of scientists agree on. If your concept of a creator is all powerful and all good, why are things like volcanos, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, disease and birth defects etc such a thing? Either he's not all good, or he's not all powerful.
Random in this context means uncaused.

Things happen every second but they do not happen un caused, they have an origin point. This is what we call cause and effect.

The fine tuning argument is based on probability and so far has not been debunked. Also, list a few of these “thousands of theories” that scientists agree on

Volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc are part of the environment of the planet and have a purpose in the eco system.

Disease and genetics are unfortunate downsides of bacteria and DNA.

A good and all powerful god isn’t obligated to make the environment a paradise free from issues and dangers. This is explained right by the Adam and Eve story. Anyways, the concept of a god goes far beyond the realm of being all good and all powerful.
 
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Are you seriously this stupid or just trolling.
I was trying to lead the conversation on to my next question.
 
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Big Bang is as ridiculous as what atheists claim religion is. You are claiming that a completely random, instantaneous explosion producing the basis for a modern world and its complexity is more believable than an omnipotent being creating it himself? lol.

Science is a religion in and of itself, and its explanations are often as shitty and changeable as that of actual religions. For these reasons I am religious.
you're giga retarded
flat earther iq
 
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big bang is investing in the idea that every thing went to plan and there were no roadbumps in creation, do you understand how perfect everything has to be for one bang to create all life on earth as we know it? for this reason I am firmly admanat in the belief of a God, if they think we are delusional why should we accept their theory as law: something which is equally delusional
This is incredibly retarded. Do you realize 1. We already found out we're not unique and there's now about 300.000 planets (iirc) estimated to be habitable, many even more habitable than the earth. Needless to say we just evolved to function better and more surviving on this earth. This place has never been "perfect" on the sense that natural disasters are still a thing.
 
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Right but that's not the point of not believing in him. If you lack evidence, why not lack belief? I don't believe clouds are made of milk condens because of the lack of evidence. That's the point of disbelief.
Belief is delusion (it doesn't exist), they just cope because they are scared there is nothing after death. The sky is not made of milk because milk can't fly it's common sense science explained everything. Yet there is not a signle proof of God existence other than baseless theories from delusional prophets.
 
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I was trying to lead the conversation on to another question.
As you always do, you don't have any knowledge on scientific literature at all so you try to get people into a mind fuck. Like when we were discussing Jesus and you said "Well if Jesus didnt exist why haven't they found his body?" typical case of pseudo intellectualism.
 
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Belivie is delusion (it doesn't exist), they just cope because they are scared there is nothing after death. The sky is not made of milk because milk can't fly it's common sense science explained everything. Yet there is not a signle proof of God existence other than baseless theories from delusional prophets.
That was my point and I know that. I was talking about condensed milk btw, my point was for you to change your disbelief to belief regarding something you have to have evidence in the first place, I don't believe in God because I don't have evidence.
 
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Yes I believe in God

By far the worst psychopath in existence

Making people like Stalin look like a joke
 
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Big Bang is as ridiculous as what atheists claim religion is. You are claiming that a completely random, instantaneous explosion producing the basis for a modern world and its complexity is more believable than an omnipotent being creating it himself? lol.

Science is a religion in and of itself, and its explanations are often as shitty and changeable as that of actual religions. For these reasons I am religious.
You couldn't have made your age (15) any more obvious
 
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So why did the big bang even happen?

That's what is being studied now in cosmology, it's particularly difficult. We know it probably happened but not why. Same way people before Newton knew that an object thrown up comes back down but not how/why.
 
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you're giga retarded
flat earther iq
I don't care you estrogenic homosexual, keep believing lies and considering yourself a quasi-intellectual as a result of them, while you are nothing but a wannabe retard sheep. Never once had I said that I believe in flat earth, but putting science on a pedestal on virtue when it is often as theoretical as religion itself without having it's moral arguments is stupid and extremely naive.
You couldn't have made your age (15) any more obvious
let me be edgy in peace
 
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As you always do, you don't have any knowledge on scientific literature at all so you try to get people into a mind fuck. Like when we were discussing Jesus and you said "Well if Jesus didnt exist why haven't they found his body?" typical case of pseudo intellectualism.
a. you just screwed up your own post, so lol.
b. I asked him why the big bang even happened.
 
This is incredibly retarded. Do you realize 1. We already found out we're not unique and there's now about 300.000 planets (iirc) estimated to be habitable, many even more habitable than the earth. Needless to say we just evolved to function better and more surviving on this earth. This place has never been "perfect" on the sense that natural disasters are still a thing.
i'm not stating life in itself is perfect, i'm literally telling you the literal popping up of our earth has to come down to exact perfection. If gravity was say a little bit stronger we would coalesce into stars and galaxies and then our big bang would have been a big crunch.
 
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I don't believe in God because I don't have evidence.
Lmao at barking for me when this is your only argument for not believing in god
 
you don't need to be "intellectual lunatic" or what ever theists think to be an atheist.
I just choose to not believe in something there is no proof of even if I don't know how things came to be.
is that too high iq to understand???
 
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many words were said, few were read
 
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i'm not stating life in itself is perfect, i'm literally telling you the literal popping up of our earth has to come down to exact perfection. If gravity was say a little bit stronger we would coalesce into stars and galaxies and then our big bang would have been a big crunch.
My entire point is that doesn't mean much when we're not unique in that department when we observe the universe. Did you even read what I said?
 
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a. you just screwed up your own post, so lol.
b. I asked him why the big bang even happened.
Yeah I messed my post up, but you knew exactly about what I was referring to.
 
Bigbang may have been started by the god, but you cant never prove it. At least science has proved bigbang happened. but god isnt jesus or sentient with ultimate goodness.
 
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I'll believe in whatever God or politician that convinces a girl to suck my dick tbh
 
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My entire point is that doesn't mean much when we're not unique in that department when we observe the universe. Did you even read what I said?
if your argument isn't proving why big bang occurred then what you say about God not existing is irrelevant. You can be unsure for now that is fine
 
Lmao at barking for me when this is your only argument for not believing in god
You obviously don't understand the reasoning behind not believing in something then. That's an extremely logical reason for not believing in something. Not believing isn't the same as saying there's no way something exists whatsoever, it means you lack evidence to believe in something.
 
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I don't care you estrogenic homosexual, keep believing lies and considering yourself a quasi-intellectual as a result of them, while you are nothing but a wannabe retard sheep. Never once had I said that I believe in flat earth, but putting science on a pedestal on virtue when it is often as theoretical as religion itself without having it's moral arguments is stupid and extremely naive.

let me be edgy in peace
ok flat earther
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Just totally ignore cosmology theory. I'm not saying it's a fact but it's the most scientifically supported theory on the origin of the universe.
Cosmology says an explosion happened. Cosmology does not say an explosion happened spontaneously with no cause, that was my point from the beginning. You’re making ideologically driven conclusions based on info which doesn’t support your point
 
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if your argument isn't proving why big bang occurred then what you say about God not existing is irrelevant. You can be unsure for now that is fine
Dude what are you even talking about? Your entire point was how the instance of this earth having perfect conditions for life to exist goes to prove God, when I already debunked that because we're not unique in any shape or farm in the universe.
 
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You obviously don't understand the reasoning behind not believing in something then. That's an extremely logical reason for not believing in something. Not believing isn't the same as saying there's no way something exists whatsoever, it means you lack evidence to believe in something.
Not really, since following a full-on rationale is stupid. Whether religion actually exists or not has no bearing on whether you should believe in it, and it won't affect you irl when all that matters is its sociological effects and whether you believe they are positive for society.
 
if u unironically believe in god or spirtuality and is on this forum ur IQ is less than 100
 
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Not really, since following a full-on rationale is stupid. Whether religion actually exists or not has no bearing on whether you should believe in it, and it won't affect you irl when all that matters is its sociological effects and whether you believe they are positive for society.
Literally my entire point was that I'm not excluding the possibility of a God, but that I hugely lack evidence for one which is why I don't base my life on him and THAT is why I don't believe in him. You're incredibly stupid if you genuinely believe that, no relious person is just religious because they believe it has a positive effect on society. And there's no point to believe in something without observable evidence. Are you gonna tell me it's logical to somehow believe in a deity which suggests the ocean split in 2 because it's personally comforting, and furthermore deny actual observable evidence made by humans?
 
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Dude what are you even talking about? Your entire point was how the instance of this earth having perfect conditions for life to exist goes to prove God, when I already debunked that because we're not unique in any shape or farm in the universe.
dude you're not even listening tf? Yes perfect conditions, meaning there were no flaws at the exact moment of the event, well there weren't buddy, so what are you even saying?
 
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lowiq people believe in religion the most it's a fact.
Low iq and high iq people both believe in religion / spirituality. It’s not as black and white as you are saying it is. The most important fact is that most people between low and high iq believe in religion / spirituality to some degree
 
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I don't care you estrogenic homosexual, keep believing lies and considering yourself a quasi-intellectual as a result of them, while you are nothing but a wannabe retard sheep. Never once had I said that I believe in flat earth, but putting science on a pedestal on virtue when it is often as theoretical as religion itself without having it's moral arguments is stupid and extremely naive.
Lmao and this guy considers himself Christian?
dude you're not even listening tf? Yes perfect conditions, meaning there were no flaws at the exact moment of the event, well there weren't buddy, so what are you even saying?
You're absolutely retarded if my point still didn't get obvious. My point was we have found out these instances aren't unique to the earth alone. And there have been always been flaws, which organisms adapt to.
 
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