Do you believe in any god?

[sandcelmuttcel]

dude you're not even listening tf? Yes perfect conditions, meaning there were no flaws at the exact moment of the event, well there weren't buddy, so what are you even saying?

what are you even saying? how does that prove god exist? that's likevobserving some random perfect event and declaring it must be god.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

Low iq and high iq people both believe in religion / spirituality. It’s not as black and white as you are saying it is. The most important fact is that most people between low and high iq believe in religion / spirituality to some degree

and these statistics you pulled out of your ass?

 

[Deleted member 10172]

legit can't believe how low iq this forum can be sometimes

This forum is very low iq indeed, god is cope.God gave me a shit life for what? Also people who claim to believe in god constantly sin and do wrong against god by having sex, porn, and etc.

 

[Deleted member 685]

what are you even saying? how does that prove god exist? that's likevobserving some random perfect event and declaring it must be god.

Exactly LMAO. Literal 10 year old pseudoscience.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Low iq and high iq people both believe in religion / spirituality. It’s not as black and white as you are saying it is. The most important fact is that most people between low and high iq believe in religion / spirituality to some degree

no one who is high iq believes in religion.Religion is huge fucking cope.

 

[Blackout.xl]

Lmao and this guy considers himself Christian?

You're absolutely retarded if my point still didn't get obvious. My point was we have found out these instances aren't unique to the earth alone. And there have been always been flaws, which organisms adapt to.

You have to remember that the quality of environment plays a major role in how much a species can adapt. Somewhere that is too hot and somewhere that is too cold will be too inhospitable to life at all, even when adaption is taken into consideration.

The difference between too hot and too cold from our current environment is that massive either. Earth is placed in the Goldilocks zone for this reason

 

[Deleted member 3043]

every claim, every fact, every proposition is a belief. We'r all believers, never forget.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Literally my entire point was that I'm not excluding the possibility of a God, but that I hugely lack evidence for one which is why I don't base my life on him and THAT is why I don't believe in him. You're incredibly stupid if you genuinely believe that, no relious person is just religious because they believe it has a positive effect on society. And there's no point to believe in something without observable evidence. Are you gonna tell me it's logical to somehow believe in a deity which suggests the ocean split in 2 because it's personally comforting, and furthermore deny actual observable evidence made by humans?

Bible is a revelation of God's relationship with God through parables, it is not and never claimed to be a historical/scientific book. Most christians don't believe it is.

 

[Warlow]

Lmao and this guy considers himself Christian?

You're absolutely retarded if my point still didn't get obvious. My point was we have found out these instances aren't unique to the earth alone. And there have been always been flaws, which organisms adapt to.

my nigga yes there have been flaws, duhhhh. These flaws however don't come to the detriment of every single living organism that existed on earth, some adapted and survived and others perished, however at the moment of creation according to big bang, there was not one error in the constants: gravity was fine, Collison was fine, etc.

and why you're trying to extricate the conditions of earth to other planets is beyond me, it's of no relevance in this discussion

 

[NaturalDisaster]

no one who is high iq believes in religion

Massive cope. atheists people on average probably slight smarter because it requires some thinking, but i hope that's a joke.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

what are you even saying? how does that prove god exist? that's likevobserving some random perfect event and declaring it must be god.

it is extremely scientifically improbable

 

[Deleted member 685]

You have to remember that the quality of environment plays a major role in how much a species can adapt. Somewhere that is too hot and somewhere that is too cold will be too inhospitable to life at all, even when adaption is taken into consideration.

The difference between too hot and too cold from our current environment is that massive either. Earth is placed in the Goldilocks zone for this reason

That's not relevant to my argument, since I already explained scientists are now finding planets which are even more habitable than earth.

 

[Blackout.xl]

no one who is high iq believes in religion.Religion is huge fucking cope.

The majority of Nobel prize winners have been religiously affiliated. Most scientists are either religious or spiritual. I could go on

I’m sorry but this notion of “nobody who’s high iq believes in religion” is basement atheist cope and a desperate attempt to make up for insecurity through flexing affiliation to an ideology.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

my nigga yes there have been flaws, duhhhh. These flaws however don't come to the detriment of every single living organism that existed on earth, some adapted and survived and others perished, however at the moment of creation according to big bang, there was not one error in the constants: gravity was fine, Collison was fine, etc.

and why you're trying to extricate the conditions of earth to other planets is beyond me, it's of no relevance in this discussion

the fact that big band created conditions that allowed everything to fall in place as it did and to evolve as it did is even more ridiculous

 

[AutisticBeaner]

how are you guys arguing about this? if you believe in a god then that's fine, just know that you don't have any real arguments

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

it is extremely scientifically improbable

where you pulled that out your ass? scientists are working to prove there are more many universes out there.

 

[Blackout.xl]

That's not relevant to my argument, since I already explained scientists are now finding planets which are even more habitable than earth.

The ratio of habitable planets to uninhabitable planets is huge. The fact of the matter is that most of the universe is not conductive to life and the parts of it that can contain life only exist due to finely balanced cosmological constants / ratios.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

how are you guys arguing about this? if you believe in a god then that's fine, just know that you don't have any real arguments

because it is a bunch of pseudo intellectual atheists trying to seem smart by thinking only forest hillibilies are religious and than an average atheist is a 300iq machine

 

[BrettyBoy]

Myself. XD

 

[Deleted member 6892]

scientists are working to prove there are more many universes out there.

Ok let them work lmao come to me when they find an explanation

 

[Deleted member 8706]

IMO our brains are just phiscally unable to understand the universe and what composes us, it would be like to teach a blind person whats like to see, they could maybe understand but would never feel it or fully comprehend.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

because it is a bunch of pseudo intellectual atheists trying to seem smart by thinking only forest hillibilies are religious and than an average atheist is a 300iq machine

what?

 

[Blackout.xl]

where you pulled that out your ass? scientists are working to prove there are more many universes out there.

Multiverse theory isn’t even considered a science.

Multiverse Theories Are Bad for Science

New books by a physicist and science journalist mount aggressive but ultimately unpersuasive defenses of multiverses

blogs.scientificamerican.com

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

because it is a bunch of pseudo intellectual atheists trying to seem smart by thinking only forest hillibilies are religious and than an average atheist is a 300iq machine

you're retarded or mentally ill either way I'm sorry for you

 

[Deleted member 685]

my nigga yes there have been flaws, duhhhh. These flaws however don't come to the detriment of every single living organism that existed on earth, some adapted and survived and others perished, however at the moment of creation according to big bang, there was not one error in the constants: gravity was fine, Collison was fine, etc.

and why you're trying to extricate the conditions of earth to other planets is beyond me, it's of no relevance in this discussion

NIGGER IT LITERALLY DOES HAVE RELECANCE. Since it goes to prove its not just the earth where those instances can happen. You act as if the earth is somehow this exceptionally unique planet which had everything perfectly aligned for life to develop, when we already know of planets which are probably more habitable.

Your argument literally doesn't prove God in the slightest. So let's say the conditions were perfect, you realize there's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets estimated to be in the universe? Let alone billions in the milky way alone. We already have alot of research indicating there could be life on Europe which is a moon. We are NOT unique.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

you're retarded or mentally ill either way I'm sorry for you

bro the only thing you contributed to the entire thread was posting reddit memes of flat earthers being owned so quit barking you subhuman abused dog

 

[Blackout.xl]

Done responding to this thread ngl

 

[Deleted member 685]

The ratio of habitable planets to uninhabitable planets is huge. The fact of the matter is that most of the universe is not conductive to life and the parts of it that can contain life only exist due to finely balanced cosmological constants / ratios.

Yeah that was literally my entire point. When you're gonna have trillions of planets obviously quite some of them are gonna be habitable. This doesn't mean there aren't an immense amount of planets that probably have better life conditions than earth.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

bro the only thing you contributed to the entire thread was posting reddit memes of flat earthers being owned so quit barking you subhuman abused dog

that's what you did keep projecting you are a literal retard that can't be reasoned with it's over for you I'm sorry

 

[john2]

The earth being 6000 years old is relatively unlikely too

That's the young earth creationist view you just referred to.
I'm not debating whether it's true or not, but I'm gonna say that it isn't the only view out there among the Christians scholars. @Blackout.xl .

 

[Blackout.xl]

That's the young earth creationist view you just referred to.
I'm not debating whether it's true or not, but I'm gonna say that it isn't the only view out there among the Christians scholars. @Blackout.xl .

Half their arguments are based on insane strawmans

 

[Deleted member 685]

That's the young earth creationist view you just referred to.
I'm not debating whether it's true or not, but I'm gonna say that it isn't the only view out there among the Christians scholars. @Blackout.xl .

And I know that, historically the absolute great majority of Christians held that worldview though.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

that's what you did keep projecting you are a literal retard that can't be reasoned with it's over for you I'm sorry

i dont keep projecting shit, you haven't responded to one actual argument all cry about muh low iq religion

 

[Deleted member 6892]

And I know that, historically the absolute great majority of Christians held that worldview though.

why should historical views hold any matter to this discussion? Views evolve obiviously

 

[Warlow]

NIGGER IT LITERALLY DOES HAVE RELECANCE. Since it goes to prove its not just the earth where those instances can happen. You act as if the earth is somehow this exceptionally unique planet which had everything perfectly aligned for life to develop, when we already know of planets which are probably more habitable.

Your argument literally doesn't prove God in the slightest. So let's say the conditions were perfect, you realize there's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets estimated to be in the universe? Let alone billions in the milky way alone. We already have alot of research indicating there could be life on Europe which is a moon. We are NOT unique.

we are the only planet with widespread sustainable life nigger, hmm i wonder what conditions were put in place for that to happen? Bhai, I will not convince you and you will not convince me, this is just mindless argument at this point. Also my points are all very viable and you have not taken to disproving them, whereas I have rebutted every last one of your points.

 

[Deleted member 685]

why should historical views hold any matter to this discussion? Views evolve obiviously

Because it goes to prove the Bible is not a good indicator of our origin. And a huge amount of Christians still believe in creationism so don't act like it's purely a historical event fuckface

 

[Deleted member 685]

we are the only planet with widespread sustainable life nigger, hmm i wonder what conditions were put in place for that to happen? Bhai, I will not convince you and you will not convince me, this is just mindless argument at this point. Also my points are all very viable and you have not taken to disproving them, whereas I have rebutted every last one of your points.

I have literally disproved your entire argument which was that the luck that must have occurred for the earth to contain life proves God's existence and a purpose, since it doesn't matter much when you realize there's trillions of planets and how we aren't unique in this universe. Regardless even if we were it wouldn't prove the existence of a God. And science actually disagrees with what you said at first, throughout the years we're realizing more and more we're not unique in the universe.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

ok they believe in creationism and so what??? why the fuck does it matter if some do, most arent scholars and dont claim to be philosophers
bible isnt a scientific book either lol strawmanning everything as true is dumb
bible never said the world is 6000 years old that came from 17th century btw idk why you use it

Because it goes to prove the Bible is not a good indicator of our origin. And a huge amount of Christians still believe in creationism so don't act like it's purely a historical event fuckface

 

[Deleted member 6892]

I have literally disproved your entire argument which was that the luck that must have occurred for the earth to contain life proves God's existence and a purpose, since it doesn't matter much when you realize there's trillions of planets and how we aren't unique in this universe. Regardless even if we were it wouldn't prove the existence of a God. And science actually disagrees with what you said at first, throughout the years we're realizing more and more we're not unique in the universe.

we are relatively unique

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

i dont keep projecting shit, you haven't responded to one actual argument all cry about muh low iq religion

if you do not follow logic what are you? you're stupid.
if there's no proof god exists what sense does it make believing he exists?

 

[Deleted member 685]

ok they believe in creationism and so what??? why the fuck does it matter if some do, most arent scholars and dont claim to be philosophers
bible isnt a scientific book either lol strawmanning everything as true is dumb
bible never said the world is 6000 years old that came from 17th century btw idk why you use it

Because it's a non valid belief that holds society back from potential progress. It makes no sense to believe in such a unscientific belief. And if you don't understand the origin of the idea of the 6000 years old earth you legit have the iq of a peanut

 

[Deleted member 685]

we are relatively unique

No we aren't. Since we figured out there's way more earth like planets

 

[Lasko123]

God and jesus are real.They speak to me in dreams

 

[Deleted member 685]

@Hades dude I'm losing braincels here talking with this 15 year old. Is it even worth taking shots at them?

 

[Deleted member 7866]

i am chosen one of god tbh

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Because it's a non valid belief that holds society back from potential progress. It makes no sense to believe in such a unscientific belief. And if you don't understand the origin of the idea of the 6000 years old earth you legit have the iq of a peanut

interpretations are not facts, the fact that it originated does not mean it is to be taken literary
you can as easily say there was a gap between first and second chapter of genesis if you want to be purely theoretical

 

[Warlow]

we are the only planet with widespread sustainable life

I have literally disproved your entire argument which was that the luck that must have occurred for the earth to contain life proves God's existence and a purpose, since it doesn't matter much when you realize there's trillions of planets and how we aren't unique in this universe. Regardless even if we were it wouldn't prove the existence of a God. And science actually disagrees with what you said at first, throughout the years we're realizing more and more we're not unique in the universe.

dude that's perhaps the best example for our uniqueness as a planet, whether you agree or not, it's simply untrue to say the earth bares the exact traits that other planets do. All your saying is there are other planets that are created and we aren't unique simply b/c we are just one of those planets

 

[Blackout.xl]

Because it's a non valid belief that holds society back from potential progress. It makes no sense to believe in such a unscientific belief. And if you don't understand the origin of the idea of the 6000 years old earth you legit have the iq of a peanut

I think Youre overestimating the influence of young earth creationism. In Europe/Canada at least, most christians believe in evolution. In the US, more believe in creationism when compared to the US and Canada but at the same time there are plenty who believe in evolution. This “it’s holding back society” shit is major cope.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

I think Youre overestimating the influence of creationism. In Europe/Canada at least, most christians believe in evolution. In the US, more believe in creationism when compared to the US and Canada but at the same time there are plenty who believe in evolution. This “it’s holding back society” shit is major cope.

Christianity advanced science if anything

 

[Deleted member 685]

dude that's perhaps the best example for our uniqueness as a planet, whether you agree or not, it's simply untrue to say the earth bares the exact traits that other planets do. All your saying is there are other planets that are created and we aren't unique simply b/c we are just one of those planets

No that's literally not what I said I said there's millions of other planets with earth like conditions, obviously not exact same conditions down to the zeros but that doesn't mean anything. You still didn't understand what I said and fail to realize that even if the earth was unique it wouldn't prove the existance of a deity being behind it.