Do you believe in objective or subjective morality

[ØUROBOROS]

And explain why or your thought process.

 

[DrRodger]

Idk

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Tagging niggas that seem interested in this subject.

@ICXCLuvr @mangotimer @the zodiac @InanimatePragmatist

 

[the zodiac]

Morality is clearly subjective every culture and religion has its own moral framework but all could agree at certain point such as torture, murder and rape.
Society needs morality to function and we're quite coded to follow certain behaviours because it helped our ancestors survive in tribes where reputation mattered the most.
So morality is subjective and dependent on society point of view it didn't came from a divine god

 

[ghoulmania]

tiktokified morality, the easiest thing to repost is what becomes ur world view

 

[thomasjiooo]

Idk anything about philosophy but atheists can justify objective morals with telos or some Aristotle shit about fulfilling purpose idk, I find my morals from Christianity

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Morality is clearly subjective every culture and religion has its own moral framework but all could agree at certain point such as torture, murder and rape.
Society needs morality to function and we're quite coded to follow certain behaviours because it helped our ancestors survive in tribes where reputation mattered the most.
So morality is subjective and dependent on society point of view it didn't came from a divine god

So of there is a society weaker than yours with different morals and a completely different culture is yours more valid than theirs? And what do you think is the best course of action leaving them alone or "liberating" Them through war risking a small chance of losing while causing the death of some people for your cause?

 

[iblamemyhabits]

is yours more valid than theirs?

its subjective, they'll think theirs is kore valid and u'll think yours is more valid

And what do you think is the best course of action leaving them alone or "liberating" Them through war risking a small chance of losing while causing the death of some people for your cause?

Letting them alone

 

[ragu]

To bored

 

[iblamejordan1]

And explain why or your thought process.

Thats still a question?

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Thats still a question?

Well I'm asking it aren't I

 

[iblamejordan1]

Well I'm asking it aren't I

Apparently

 

[Amuzant]

And explain why or your thought process.

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Apparently

Nigga just answer the damn question

 

[iblamejordan1]

Nigga just answer the damn question

I still dont understand those clearly

 

[ouiii]

Truthfully, morality is subjective. But for modern society's social framework to work an objective agreed morality has to be established, pretty basic.

 

[mangotimer]

morality was made to keep society in check

 

[cowmuncher26]

Are you autistic or are you not autistic

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Are you autistic or are you not autistic

Not autistic

 

[jingelton]

Mostly subjective but we can all agree that objective morality exists.

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Mostly subjective but we can all agree that objective morality exists.

Elaborate nigga

 

[Niebvll]

Mostly subjective but we can all agree that objective morality exists.

The existence of objective morality directly contradicts the existence of subjective morality

 

[ØUROBOROS]

The existence of objective morality directly contradicts the existence of subjective morality

Exactly. I think what he was trying to say is that morality is subjective but there is somethings that are agreed on to be bad like killing rape ect or something like that.

 

[Niebvll]

Exactly. I think what he was trying to say is that morality is subjective but there is somethings that are agreed on to be bad like killing rape ect or something like that.

He doesnt understand the difference between morality and morals

 

[ØUROBOROS]

He doesnt understand the difference between morality and morals

We all have been there (except @Niebvll ) at some point not knowing what something is and saying straight bullshit that we think sounds smart I'm still there tbh I make threads like this not because of my knowledge in philosophy logic religion or things like I'm very uneducated but I love to see people's different opinions and why they hold them I hope everyone here becomes more educated in the future especially me.

 

[Niebvll]

We all have been there at some point not knowing what something is and saying straight bullshit that we think sounds smart I'm still there tbh I make threads like this not because of my knowledge in philosophy logic religion or things like I'm very uneducated but I love to see people's different opinions and why they hold them I hope everyone here becomes more educated in the future especially me.

Nah I havent been there

 

[iblamecurrygenetics]

morality is so subjective
an average conversation for you could be hell on earth for a liberal white woman
why even bother

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Nah I havent been there

Alright I just fixed it for you jfl

 

[BatemanNigga]

Subjective i want to rape people

 

[SmallGuyBobby]

And explain why or your thought process.

If we're gonna be totally honest here it's a synthesis between the both. There's obviously some thing that are generally objective and some things that are way more nuanced when it comes to morality. So it's both

 

[ØUROBOROS]

If we're gonna be totally honest here it's a synthesis between the both. There's obviously some thing that are generally objective and some things that are way more nuanced when it comes to morality. So it's both

The existence of objective morality directly contradicts the existence of subjective morality

It can't be both at the same time nigga.

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Was gonna pick objective but then I remembered all the Reddit cucks who thinks a 25 year old dating a 19 year old is a “predator”

 

[ØUROBOROS]

Was gonna pick objective

Every religious person it is 50/50 rn

but then I remembered all the Reddit cucks who thinks a 25 year old dating a 19 year old is a “predator”

What is funny (or not) is that they probably would vote that it is subjective.

 

[SmallGuyBobby]

It can't be both at the same time nigga.

If we're talking on a societal scale it's objective on a personal and individual scale it's subjective that better?

 

[ØUROBOROS]

If we're talking on a societal scale it's objective on a personal and individual scale it's subjective that better?

Yes but I'm going to need you to elaborate on that more so I can understand your point better

 

[Niebvll]

Alright I just fixed it for you jfl

Good

 

[SmallGuyBobby]

Yes but I'm going to need you to elaborate on that more so I can understand your point better

In every single society that has emerged since the beginning of history till this day have a incredibly similar set of values on many things, and a society can't even function properly without them like the obvious ones such as murder and stealing and whatnot. I think this is the only thing religion gets right, it keeps a society at large in its place and holds down the morals of it, this is why our world is becoming more degenerate by the day. When you look at it personally some acts can be morally right to you personally while being completely horrible to someone from an unbiased or someone taking a different side, so that's where morality becomes subjective at the individual level in certain cases. If a guy raped my girl I'm obv gonna be inclined to go and kill him and I will think thats actually moral and nothing's wrong with that some people will agree some will disagree snd it's bad for society

 

[Niebvll]

If we're talking on a societal scale it's objective on a personal and individual scale it's subjective that better?

Not true lol
Objective morality isn't even societal, it has to proceed from something greater than us
"Societal" objectivity in morality is just common subjective opinions/morals stacked en masse
Morality only exists objectively (disagreement on morals disprove subjective morality) and cannot logically stem from humans themselves

 

[Niebvll]

In every single society that has emerged since the beginning of history till this day have a incredibly similar set of values on many things, and a society can't even function properly without them like the obvious ones such as murder and stealing and whatnot.

Just morals
because all humans inherit a set of natural morals
Morality is not the same

When you look at it personally some acts can be morally right to you personally while being completely horrible to someone from an unbiased or someone taking a different side, so that's where morality becomes subjective at the individual level in certain cases

This literally disproves subjective morality by disagreement

If a guy raped my girl I'm obv gonna be inclined to go and kill him and I will think thats actually moral and nothing's wrong with that some people will agree some will disagree snd it's bad for society

Just morals, not actual morality

 

[IronMike]

And explain why or your thought process.

Subjective morality with objective framework.

For example, I believe that women and children should be defended due to their physical weakness. However that will change if a woman or child is going crazy and about to stab people in a public place.

 

[SmallGuyBobby]

Just morals
because all humans inherit a set of natural morals
Morality is not the same

This literally disproves subjective morality by disagreement

Just morals, not actual morality

Great point, didn't think of it that way, I was mixing the 2 up