Do you believe in the idea of "Genetics come in a package"

[Bl0odKn1ght]

For example that a good face is often combined with a taller height, higher iq, and other desirable genetic traits

Or another example that a ugly guy has a bigger chance of being shorter, dumber, etc.

Ofc there are outliers in this theory, but im talking majority

Im exited to see where this discussion goes

 

[ToryToad]

Yes but subconsciously idk nothing about it

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

@Jonas2k7 @Zagro @kazama

@some body tag roosevelt, his username is hard to remember

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

Yes but subconsciously idk nothing about it

Ye, it may also just be a halo effect, but i've seen people claim its not only that

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

@Jonas2k7 @Zagro @kazama

@some body tag roosevelt, his username is hard to remember

Yes, I do believe genetics come in a package.

@loyolaxavvierretard

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

Yes, I do believe genetics come in a package.

@loyolaxavvierretard

thanks for tagging him bhai

 

[Zagro]

For example that a good face is often combined with a taller height, higher iq, and other desirable genetic traits

Or another example that a ugly guy has a bigger chance of being shorter, dumber, etc.

Ofc there are outliers in this theory, but im talking majority

Im exited to see where this discussion goes

Yeah surely genetics come in a package.

 

[kazama]

For example that a good face is often combined with a taller height, higher iq, and other desirable genetic traits

Or another example that a ugly guy has a bigger chance of being shorter, dumber, etc.

Ofc there are outliers in this theory, but im talking majority

Im exited to see where this discussion goes

yes and I understand where you got to
But there are social issues that help in the development of someone beautiful and tall
But in a way beauty is "health" so everything that falls under the healthy genes aspect

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

yes and I understand where you got to
But there are social issues that help in the development of someone beautiful and tall
But in a way beauty is "health" so everything that falls under the healthy genes aspect

Agree

 

[TAChipmunk]

Only in the last sort of 200 years or so with the transition into early capitalism, and the rapid expansion of wealth for the masses.

Men who were at the top of the tree so to speak, got their pick of the litter from a wider pool of women, and these would often be the most beautiful ones, since that is what men sought, and therefore on average produce more attractive offspring.

Over time, this kept repeating to produce class divides, both socioeconomically, and intellectually, but what would be interesting to know if the class divides correlated with marked divides in beauty.

Either way, there is a reason why taller and more attractive people are better paid, and to access the ranks of the higher socioeconomic status, would have to on average be more intelligent, since IQ is correlated with income, or general career success. It also works both ways since smarter people are more socially aware of the societal pressure to look good, and therefore put more effort into doing so.

Therefore when you combine men who are more intelligent, and financially successful, and taller, mate with women who are attractive, and usually intelligent also, the the offspring is likely to inherit these characteristics, and the repeat of this trend only makes this effect more pronounced.

So given this praxeology, life is even more blackpilling, and completely wipes the floor with the idea of social mobility. If politicians and economists want to tackle inequality, they have to target it at a genetic level. If you think about it, the economic difference between many countries on average results in so many other differences present, because with some exceptions in some areas, a poorer shitskin country usually has a higher rate of genetic diseases, lower avearge IQ, lower average height, and less attractive people compared to a highly-developed country. I say this stems from a genetic level because even if you transported those same shitkins to a developed country, and let them breed as is with modern healthy diets, education and technology, you wouldn't see a massive improvement epigenetically, let alone have the come close to the level of a native west European for example.

Although if we were to look around us today, it's sort of hard to imagine this being true to establish any sort of concrete correlation. The upper-middle classes are now being dominated by Indians and the Chinese, and east Asian countries have the highest IQ scores, yet are obviously the least attractive. The nerd stereotype rings true for a reason.

But that's me leaning too far into the IQ side of things with regards to coheritability. I think a good face and height are definitely true, since a major part of that would be their environmental upbringing, and hormones, which would result in both of those characteristics being either undesirable or desirable. Most models are tall, and it's very rare for a very good-looking person of a shorter height to get rejected from an agency, because on average, I believe taller people are facially more attractive, and are healthier too.

 

[KT-34]

Bonemass is a package, you can't have crazy well developed bones in only one part of your body, intelligence isn't directly related

It's just that smart men become rich and successful, have kids with beautiful women, and it saves their genes

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

Only in the last sort of 200 years or so with the transition into early capitalism, and the rapid expansion of wealth for the masses.

Men who were at the top of the tree so to speak, got their pick of the litter from a wider pool of women, and these would often be the most beautiful ones, since that is what men sought, and therefore on average produce more attractive offspring.

Over time, this kept repeating to produce class divides, both socioeconomically, and intellectually, but what would be interesting to know if the class divides correlated with marked divides in beauty.

Either way, there is a reason why taller and more attractive people are better paid, and to access the ranks of the higher socioeconomic status, would have to on average be more intelligent, since IQ is correlated with income, or general career success. It also works both ways since smarter people are more socially aware of the societal pressure to look good, and therefore put more effort into doing so.

Therefore when you combine men who are more intelligent, and financially successful, and taller, mate with women who are attractive, and usually intelligent also, the the offspring is likely to inherit these characteristics, and the repeat of this trend only makes this effect more pronounced.

So given this praxeology, life is even more blackpilling, and completely wipes the floor with the idea of social mobility. If politicians and economists want to tackle inequality, they have to target it at a genetic level. If you think about it, the economic difference between many countries on average results in so many other differences present, because with some exceptions in some areas, a poorer shitskin country usually has a higher rate of genetic diseases, lower avearge IQ, lower average height, and less attractive people compared to a highly-developed country. I say this stems from a genetic level because even if you transported those same shitkins to a developed country, and let them breed as is with modern healthy diets, education and technology, you wouldn't see a massive improvement epigenetically, let alone have the come close to the level of a native west European for example.

Although if we were to look around us today, it's sort of hard to imagine this being true to establish any sort of concrete correlation. The upper-middle classes are now being dominated by Indians and the Chinese, and east Asian countries have the highest IQ scores, yet are obviously the least attractive. The nerd stereotype rings true for a reason.

But that's me leaning too far into the IQ side of things with regards to coheritability. I think a good face and height are definitely true, since a major part of that would be their environmental upbringing, and hormones, which would result in both of those characteristics being either undesirable or desirable. Most models are tall, and it's very rare for a very good-looking person of a shorter height to get rejected from an agency, because on average, I believe taller people are facially more attractive, and are healthier too.

agree, appreciate the high effort reply

 

[binocularlens]

For example that a good face is often combined with a taller height, higher iq, and other desirable genetic traits

Or another example that a ugly guy has a bigger chance of being shorter, dumber, etc.

Ofc there are outliers in this theory, but im talking majority

Im exited to see where this discussion goes

id say it’s very often that genes come in a package, not always, but often (w the inclusion of outliers like you mentioned) . i always wondered why everything in my body was at a certain level, it’s all up to par with each other, from height, to bones, to face, it all averages out to a similar level. the reason it’s not always though is because some genes can be hidden, a guy who’s 5’7 but hmtn who stunted his growth might marry an mltb to then have kids who are lmtb/lmtb but also 6’0 because the hmtns parents were also tall asf, also IQ isnt correlated with height esp the fact that you could’ve had a better experience being an ltn 80 years ago when hypergamy was at its lowest and thus better social life, more confidence, which would get you more girls, more attractive and most importantly intelligent kids w the girl you marry

also you could just statistically lose the genetic lottery with your parents and get some of your ltn great great ancestors genes

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Yes, I do believe genetics come in a package.

@loyolaxavvierretard