Do you ever worry that your ascension is too gradual to notice?

[Foreverbrad]

Shaving my beard off nuked my PSL by at least a full point and the horrible treatment I got from the NPCs was noticeable because the change was so large and instant.

I do worry that with a bimax here, a jaw angle filler there, the slow approach to a fitness model body, and all these other incremental changes adding 0.2 PSL at a time I’ll never really notice a stark contrast in how I’m treated and I’ll feel like it was for nothing in the end.

Makes me want to go full hermit mode until everything is in place.

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Looksmaxxing is a pipe dream. Even the hallmark of surgeries (bimax) does fuck all for most.

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Congratulations, you have realistic expectations. None of this surgeries will take you from LTN to HTN or Chadlite. You'll be a strong MTN at best.

Your starting base determines your future look.

I've had many procedures now and even after I fully recovered I don't expect to be anything more than a strong MTN/ weak HTN.

I had way too many flaws to ascend properly but still a vast improvement compared to what I was 6 months ago.

Most of the heavy lifting came from leanmaxxing and gymaxxing anyway.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Congratulations, you have realistic expectations. None of this surgeries will take you from LTN to HTN or Chadlite. You'll be a strong MTN at best.

Your starting base determines your future look.

I've had many procedures now and even after I fully recovered I don't expect to be anything more than a strong MTN/ weak HTN.

I had way too many flaws to ascend properly but still a vast improvement compared to what I was 6 months ago.

Most of the heavy lifting came from leanmaxxing and gymaxxing anyway.

Leanmaxxing did nothing for me cause I’m recessed, but gym did change me from trucel to slayer of daddy-issue subhumans. Not sure there is a lot more to gain in general appeal from further gym for me but it’s worth doing.

When I think about it my ascension is going to happen in two phases:

Phase 1: eye area ascension and softmaxxing
1. Re-grow beard and shape it
2. UEE filler and brow botox
3. Cheekbone and tear trough filler
4. Continue gym maxxing and style maxxing
5. Maybe a tiny bit of jaw angle filler
6. Lip filler for my subhuman Anglo thin lips

Phase 2: main surgery ascension
1. Dissolve the cheekbone filler
2. Bimax 1cm advancement, 5mm widening at gonion
3. Genio 5mm downgraft or chin implant
4. Infraorbital implants
5. Wear 3mm stubble instead of 15mm fraud beard

Hopefully breaking it down into two chunks like this will provide a big noticeable jump in SMV each time.

My only remaining failos would be my midface recession, slightly too low ESR, slightly too wide nasal base (lefort will worsen may need surgery) and the general signs and effects of aging JFL.

Halos could be considered my hair, eye colour and shape (fundamentally good and let down by orbit hollowness), and my wide zygos. I guess that points to a final result in HTN range.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

My only remaining failos would be my midface recession, slightly too low ESR, slightly too wide nasal base (lefort will worsen may need surgery) and the general signs and effects of aging JFL.

why would lefort worsen it?

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

Leanmaxxing did nothing for me cause I’m recessed, but gym did change me from trucel to slayer of daddy-issue subhumans. Not sure there is a lot more to gain in general appeal from further gym for me but it’s worth doing.

When I think about it my ascension is going to happen in two phases:

Phase 1: eye area ascension and softmaxxing
1. Re-grow beard and shape it
2. UEE filler and brow botox
3. Cheekbone and tear trough filler
4. Continue gym maxxing and style maxxing
5. Maybe a tiny bit of jaw angle filler
6. Lip filler for my subhuman Anglo thin lips

Phase 2: main surgery ascension
1. Dissolve the cheekbone filler
2. Bimax 1cm advancement, 5mm widening at gonion
3. Genio 5mm downgraft or chin implant
4. Infraorbital implants
5. Wear 3mm stubble instead of 15mm fraud beard

Hopefully breaking it down into two chunks like this will provide a big noticeable jump in SMV each time.

My only remaining failos would be my midface recession, slightly too low ESR, slightly too wide nasal base (lefort will worsen may need surgery) and the general signs and effects of aging JFL.

Halos could be considered my hair, eye colour and shape (fundamentally good and let down by orbit hollowness), and my wide zygos. I guess that points to a final result in HTN range.

At 29 what age range do you typically slay? And what country or area are you based in?

 

[Foreverbrad]

At 29 what age range do you typically slay? And what country or area are you based in?

UK. Typical age range is now 30-45, mainly because they are agecucks and I lie on tibder that my age is 35 so I don’t have to compete with mogger chads in their 20s.

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

UK. Typical age range is now 30-45, mainly because they are agecucks and I lie on tibder that my age is 35 so I don’t have to compete with mogger chads in their 20s.

damn
yeah I'm UK too and 27, cba agefrauding so mostly match with 23-40 and fairly evenly spread across that
before when I was 25-26 but still had a stubble beard and skinfade it was more in their 30s and fewer in their 20s, keeping up with what's fashionable does matter despite all the "Chad can do xyz and still slay"

 

[Foreverbrad]

damn
yeah I'm UK too and 27, cba agefrauding so mostly match with 23-40 and fairly evenly spread across that
before when I was 25-26 but still had a stubble beard and skinfade it was more in their 30s and fewer in their 20s, keeping up with what's fashionable does matter despite all the "Chad can do xyz and still slay"

Until I get away from having to beard fraud I’m stuck looking unfashionable. Curtains haircut to fraud ESR also seems to have gone out of fashion.

Most guys I see with the “aura” of slayers are clean shaved, gym maxxed, with dyed black perm fringe and thugmaxxed clothes. Somewhat also usually seem to have mogger bones. Same around you?

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

Until I get away from having to beard fraud I’m stuck looking unfashionable. Curtains haircut to fraud ESR also seems to have gone out of fashion.

Most guys I see with the “aura” of slayers are clean shaved, gym maxxed, with dyed black perm fringe and thugmaxxed clothes. Somewhat also usually seem to have mogger bones. Same around you?

yep, I'm close to London area now and that's pretty much exactly what it is
lean>big for gymmaxxers these days as well

 

[Foreverbrad]

yep, I'm close to London area now and that's pretty much exactly what it is
lean>big for gymmaxxers these days as well

I was so much closer to fitting the old RTT love island archetype than this new one, it’s heartbreaking.

They are lean and big, clearly all roiding and in a country where you can possess legally why wouldn’t you?

Hopefully by the time I get my surgeries the meta will have swung around in a more achievable direction for me.

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

I was so much closer to fitting the old RTT love island archetype than this new one, it’s heartbreaking.

They are lean and big, clearly all roiding and in a country where you can possess legally why wouldn’t you?

Hopefully by the time I get my surgeries the meta will have swung around in a more achievable direction for me.

yeah exact same here, around 2017-19 was ideal for me

 

[extremchange628181]

Shaving my beard off nuked my PSL by at least a full point and the horrible treatment I got from the NPCs was noticeable because the change was so large and instant.

I do worry that with a bimax here, a jaw angle filler there, the slow approach to a fitness model body, and all these other incremental changes adding 0.2 PSL at a time I’ll never really notice a stark contrast in how I’m treated and I’ll feel like it was for nothing in the end.

Makes me want to go full hermit mode until everything is in place.

Yeah it’s hard to see a difference in human interaction when your not sub 4 and ascend to a 6 through hardmaxxing. However I think when you really want to see if people really treat you better you need to ask them or go on dates where it’s really about how you loo.