Theoretical in-depth guide on how to SAFELY use r-hGH and aromatase inhibitor for pubertymaxxing

This is not a safe guide apart from for those deficient like messi.. At best u will end up an ugly lanklet fk with mesed p prportions aand a shit face, u wont be proptioned and athletic like aa lebron
JFL for believing this, been on HGH for 3 months and haven’t had any changes in my face.

A lot of users here also use HGH, and none of them have experienced anything like that either.
 
is it possible to experience downgrowth, especially of the maxilla?
Yes but not noticeably even if your the 1 in 10000000000 incels having the genes for it
 
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JFL for believing this, been on HGH for 3 months and haven’t had any changes in my face.

A lot of users here also use HGH, and none of them have experienced anything like that either.
First of alll facial changes will only occcur on high doses
Secondly changes will be so slow u wouldnt notice em. Ur getting uglier everyday and u dont realise it:ROFLMAO:
 
JFL for believing this, been on HGH for 3 months and haven’t had any changes in my face.

A lot of users here also use HGH, and none of them have experienced anything like that either.
Bro u think u notice thepersonal changes in 3 months? lmao. I hope for ur sake u have a mothr thts honest with u.
 
Brow ridge growth from GH when I used it was pretty insane tbh.
 
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Bro u think u notice thepersonal changes in 3 months? lmao. I hope for ur sake u have a mothr thts honest with u.
I most likely face mog you to oblivion thb
 
High iq. What's the dose for letrozole?
 
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High iq. What's the dose for letrozole?
idk, never used letro and could only repeat what others say
for exemestane I'm confident recommending 20mg ed
 


Storage Guidelines

The storage of exemestane etc. is fairly easy, but storing r-hGH correctly is crucial to maintain its effectiveness and safety.

After the r-hGH has arrived, it’s unmixed r-hGH in lyophilized (freeze-dried) powder form. This form of r-hGH is relatively stable and can typically be used up to the expiration date printed on the packaging if stored in the refrigerator at temperatures between 2 to 8 degrees Celsius (35.6 to 46.4 degrees Fahrenheit - There could also be other storage information on the package, such as 2-4 degrees, etc.).

If there is no date, expect 3 - 18+ months or e-mail your provider directly.

The expiration date assumes that the product has been continuously stored under recommended conditions and can often extend several years into the future, depending on the manufacturing date.

While there are people who recommend only shipping r-hGH refrigerated in the winter or late autumn, this is not necessarily.

Nevertheless, you should insist on refrigerated express transport, especially in the warm season.

Avoiding r-hGH to extreme temperatures, especially heat and direct sunlight, is important as this could destroy the structure of the polypeptide hormone.

In Liquid Form (After Reconstitution): Once r-hGH has been converted into liquid form by mixing it with a solvent, its shelf life significantly shortens. The exact duration depends on the specific product and the manufacturer's instructions but typically ranges from 14 to 28 days when consistently stored in the refrigerator. Some products may have a shorter shelf life.

I recommend injecting the r-hGH right after reconstituting and only reconstituting the amount that you need for your immediate dose or the next two doses.

A high-quality refrigerator is incredibly important. Do not waste your time and money on refrigerators in a price range of 20-80€. This applies to most refrigerators smaller than 445 mm x 500 mm x 468 mm. They are simply not good at cooling most of the time.

Make sure that your refrigerator can cool at least 30 degrees below room temperature, especially if these temperatures can occur in your home in the summer.

Only store your r-hGH vials in the refrigerator and make sure that the refrigerator has no UV-Light function or make sure that it's turned off.

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Ensure that the refrigerator is not connected to a cable that poses a risk of power failure.

When choosing a refrigerator, pay attention to its volume.

As said, for exemestane (Aromatase Inhibitor in general) everything is a bit easier, keep your exemestane at normal room temperature (not above 25 degrees), away from direct sunlight or wetness (Also low-humidity environment).



Use of Assistive Devices
Those are important devices for the use of r-HGH.
  • Bacteriostatic water: To reconstitute the freeze-dried r-hGH.
  • Alcohol wipes: For sterilizing the injection site and vial.
  • 3cc syringe: Used for drawing bacteriostatic water.
  • Insulin syringe: For precise r-hGH dosing and subcutaneous injections.
I'll go more in-depth about what to do with those things later.

Storage for them is similar to the storage of Aromatase inhibitors.



The authenticity of r-hGH and Exemestane (Aromasin) and Ways to Verify

It's essential to make sure r-hGH and exemestane or Pfizer aromasin are effective.

This can be ensured in the first place by buying from sources that are accepted within the community.

For further ensure blood tests are required.

However, there are additional methods available to verify the authenticity of your r-hGH and exemestane or Pfizer Aromasin before using them.

Many counterfeit operations in China are infamous for bottling Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder into vials that are mislabeled as GH.

r-hGH Checklist:​

Test A:
  • Reconstitute the r-hGH.
  • Bring a pot of water to a boil.
  • Put the r-hGH vial into the boiling water for 2 minutes.
  • See if the solution turns milky/cloudy white.
  • If your r-hGH is real it will turn cloudy/milky white after this procedure.
  • Let the r-hGH vial stay at room temperature for one day.
  • If the solution becomes clear again and you don't see any milkiness then the r-hGH is fake.
Test B:
  • Buy a home pregnancy kit from a pharmacy.
  • Reconstitute the r-hGH and set it on the pregnancy kit.
  • If the result is positive, this indicates that the powder has tested positive for HCG, indicating that the r-hGH is counterfeit r-hGH.
  • Another way to perform the test is to urinate on it 2 days after ingesting the supposed r-hGH product. If the powder contains HCG, it will pass through the urine and the test should turn positive.
Test C:
Exemestane, Pfizer Aromasin Checklist:​

Exemestane from different pharmacies or UGLabs is hard to check for efficiency without trying it.

Known UGLabs usually have “verify” codes on the box and laborious analyses online on known Bodybuilding forums.

Aromasin is harder to check for authenticity
  • Inspect the pill, the pill should be:
  • Really small, roundish, white and with the number “7663” printed on the side
  • Inspect the package through comparison with photos on the internet



Injecting r-hGH:

Determining the appropriate r-HGH Dosage

The appropriate dose of r-hGH is the proper r-hGH dose for you.

While someone has to use a dose of 10IU r-hGH, you may only need a dose of 5IU r-hGH.

And the idea that the more IU of r-hGH you use means more effects is also wrong, this is because the liver simply stops producing more IGF-1 at some point, 30IU doesn't change that, you still reach the same peak as you may had with 5IU r-hGH.

This means that the only thing you achieve by injecting excessive amounts of r-hGH is burning money.

And by the way acromegalic, strong hormonal fluctuations and side effects.


Since we are aiming for controlled growth, we should also keep our hormone levels within or not excessively above the reference ranges, this is enough to get our desired growth spurts.

Generally, this is the dose that gets used: 0,035 mg/kg per day (1mg r-hGH = 3IU r-hGH).

So for the most 5-8 IU r-hGH, regular blood tests of IGF-1 and HGH are crucial to adjust the doses (This is the dose that maxes out IGF-1).

I personally don't recommend going above 10IU r-hGH ed.

I personally don’t recommend going under 3IU r-hGH ed.

As I said, be careful not to increase your IGF-1 etc. levels too much over a too long time period.

Administration Technique for r-HGH

As said before, in order to inject r-hGH you first have to reconstitute it into a liquid form.

For the whole injection process following things are necessary:
  • Bacteriostatic water: To convert the r-hGH powder into liquid (about 1ml is needed for 6IU).
  • 3cc syringe: For getting the bacteriostatic water out of the vial.
  • Insulin syringe: For the injection.
  • Alcoholic wipes: To keep everything clean during the process.
(r-hGH in liquid form is up to 10 days usable)


For the reconstruction part, watch this video:


A good calculation help is this website:

For the injection part watch this video:



Injections into the thigh or upper arm are also possible.

When trying to inject the r-hGH, make sure that your syringe doesn’t contain any air, injection of air will cause discomfort.

Note: When initiating r-hGH treatment, it is common to start with a lower dose than the target dosage. This approach allows your body and you to gradually adapt to the changes, thereby minimizing potential side effects. By beginning with a smaller dose, you are likely to experience fewer adverse reactions (An example of this is included in the cycle plan).

Timing of r-hGH Injections

The full daily dose of r-hGH is administrated before bed.

Try to give it consistently within an hour timeframe, for example between 9 and 10 p.m. every night.

You may change the time occasionally, by a few hours earlier or later, but do not give before 5 p.m, except under unusual circumstances (such as leaving for a trip, a sleepover, etc.)



Taking the correct dosage of Exemestane (Aromasin):

Determining the appropriate exemestane Dosage
Determining the right dose of exemestane is fairly easy, but it’s a process that takes time.

After blood test A arrives and your E2 baseline lies between 20-40 pg/ml you can start a dose of 6,25mg ed (every day).

Anything below 20 pg/ml is rather unlikely, but as long as it stays there naturally exemestane is not really needed, through regular blood tests it’s easy to notice if the value rises above 20 pg/ml.

Otherwise, you can also try 3.15mg of exemestane ed (every day).

Anything above 40 pg/ml will most likely need a higher dose than 6,25 mg, although I personally still recommend starting with 6.25 mg to give your body, and especially yourself time to get used to the side effects and adapt.

The side effects of exemestane appear quickly and disappear quickly – in the first few days of using exemestane (no matter the dose), you’ll experience light headaches, Joint pain and stiffness, fatigue, and even slight dizziness, everything will feel a little strange.

But this goes away fast, usually about 5-7 days until you have no side effects at all, even when you increase the dose.

In the best-case scenario, if you are patient and don't mind the money you need, you can approach it like this:
  • Get blood Test A.
  • Start with 3,15 mg ed (usually not enough to lower E2 sufficiently, but good to get a first understanding of the drug).
  • After 7 days do blood Test B (to see changes in your E2 levels and effects on fundamental organs, usually everything should be in the reference range).
  • Double the dose if you're not under the 20 pg/ml mark.
  • After 7 days do blood Test B (to see changes in your E2 levels and effects on fundamental organs).
  • Double the dose if you're not under the 20 pg/ml mark.
  • After 7 days do blood Test B (to see changes in your E2 levels and effects on fundamental organs).
  • Continue this until you are below the 20 pg/ml mark and understand your personal dosing.
For most, a daily dose of 12.5mg will be necessary to lower E2 levels enough.

For some, a daily dose of 12.5mg+ will be necessary to lower E2 levels enough.

Note that your exemestane, especially if it is not pharma Aromasin, may be underdosed, so you need higher doses even though your E2 levels are not that high.

Timing and method for exemestane administration
Exemestane shouldn’t be taken with the injection of r-hGH, a two-hour radius between those two drugs should be respected.

I recommend taking Exemestane around 12 o'clock to 14 o'clock, every day at the same time, preferably after eating a meal.

Studies and prescription instructions suggest better absorption by the body if Exemestane is consumed with or after a meal.

Alternatively, you can take Exemestane with a tablespoon of olive oil.

It’s also imperative to understand that AROMASIN requires a full 7 days to allow the body to achieve peak blood plasma levels of the compound.


Another method of administration is the sublingual administration. In short, the pill is placed under the tongue until it disappears, but this administration technique makes no real sense for exemestane, the idea is using the first-pass-effect to get the active ingredient directly into the bloodstream without it getting into the liver. But the enzyme CYP3A4 in the liver will metabolize exemestane either way.



Estimated Costs and Cycle:

List of Necessary Items with Pricing


Obviously, the listed prices are not precise and only fulfill the purpose of giving an idea moneywise.

I calculate with 60-day bulk in advance and 6IU r-hGH ed (every day).

Some things will last longer than the planned 60 days or are one-off expenses, that's why the start is the most expensive.


One-off expenses:
  • Refrigerator: 150€
  • Heart pressure monitor: 10-30€
  • Blood sugar meter: 10-30€
Recurring expenses:
  • Alcoholic Wipes (100 wipes): 10-15€
  • 3cc syringe: 10-30€
  • Insulin syringe: 10-30€
  • Blood sugar meter parts: 10-15€
  • Blood tests: 80-250
  • X-Ray: 70-150€
Recurring expenses:
  • 360IU r-hGH: 340-380€
  • 60ml (1ml ed) Bacteriostatic water: 50-70€ (If you want to save money just make your own bacteriostatic water it’s very easy actually)
  • 1x AROMASIN from Pfizer: 40-70€

Estimated total for the first 60 days:

About 750 - 950€

Estimated total price for the following 60 days:

About 650 – 800€ (mostly below this)​


Cycle Outline and Weekly Schedule, Including Precautions

This cycle outline is intended to provide a general visualization of the procedure. Variations from the plan in any aspect are entirely acceptable and should be tailored to your personal preferences.

It should be logical that you should not start the administration or do blood tests while you have any kind of illness, and start completely healthy (Of course, this also applies to your stress level).

[Stage 1] Preparation:
This should be done before doing anything.

PreparationImportance
Radiograph of the carpal bone or/and knee radiographImportant, except you experienced growth in the last 1-3 months
Blood Test AImportant
Measure, note, or photograph all important featuresImportant
All listed devices and drugsImportant, except you want to only do exemestane for now
A secure source of incomeImportant, mini job, etc.
Buffer budget (100-200€)Recommended

[Stage 2] Start of exemestane:
This is a 7-day plan. Only proceed to the next stage if your E2 levels are below 20 pg/ml and you no longer experience side effects from exemestane. Repeat this stage until your E2 levels are below 20 pg/ml and your body has fully adjusted to the hormonal changes, which typically takes about 7-14 days.
After 7 days, Blood Test B - dose adjustImportant
Note side effects and thoughtsRecommended

[Stage 3] Start of r-hGH:
R-hGH should be started with a moderate dose, as in the example here, (it can also be started with the desired dose, e.g. 6IU, 7IU, 8IU, etc.) increase the dose, as long as no serious side effects occur, slowly with 0.5IU to 1IU weekly.
Blood Test CImportant, everything has to be in the reference range
Start of r-hGH with 2IU ed (every day)Important, an increase of 0,5IU to 1IU weekly until the desired dose is reached
Measure, note, or photograph all important features (every month)Recommended

Daily safety plan from here on:

DailyImportance
Morning (after waking up):
Blood sugar monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Blood pressure monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Midday (after a meal):
Blood sugar monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Important
Blood pressure monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Important
Before Bed:
Blood sugar monitoringImportant
Blood pressure monitoringImportant
Time irrelevant
Hair loss preventionRecommended

After 2-4 weeks Blood Test D, depending on your feeling.

[Stage 4] r-hGH and exemestane (after habituation phase):

Cycle Blood Test D, E, and F every monthImportant
Measure, note, or photograph all important features (every month)Recommended

Daily safety plan from here on:

DailyImportance
Morning (after waking up):
Blood sugar monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Blood pressure monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Midday (after a meal):
Blood sugar monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Recommended
Blood pressure monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Recommended
Before Bed:
Blood sugar monitoringOptional
Blood pressure monitoringOptional
Time irrelevant
Hair loss preventionRecommended

If you get things like facial water retention, also start using things like Gua Sha daily, or doing exercises etc.



Additional recommendations and knowledge

Information about r-HGH and Aromatase Inhibitors and the differences between pharma and UGLs

It is worth reiterating that r-hGH stands out as the priciest performance-enhancing product available.

Most counterfeit r-hGH kits are manufactured in China because the laws there are not very strict about making chemicals into products.

Therefore, the production of these r-hGH kits is not very strict either.

I’ve chatted with @lightskinbengali about this and the effects can be far-reaching.

From poor purity to mislabelled HCG powder* to dreamlike purity but with unknown contamination such as heavy metals, everything can be in your vial.

Many counterfeit operations in China are infamous for bottling Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder into vials that are mislabelled as r-hGH.​
Using HCG and masquerading it as r-hGH proved both effective and profitable, as the freeze-dried HCG powder looks so similar to freeze-dried GH.​

Even with provided laboratory tests by Janoshik (The current market holder for laboratory analyses within the steroids market) it’s not sure what’s in the vial, especially because those analyses mostly don't even address possible contamination.

Ignoring that the technology behind bootleg r-hGH has become so advanced that many fake r-hGH kits contain unknown chemical additives that emulate the very same side effects that genuine r-hGH produces, there are also possible contaminations such as heavy metals in the r-HGH vial that arise during production.

Those looking to purchase premium r-hGH may want to consider Genotropin (made by Pharmacia), Norditropin (made by Novo Nodisk), Serostim (made by Serono), Humatrope (made by Eli Lilly), Omnitrope (made by Sandoz), and Saizen (made by Serono).

Human growth hormone (r-hGH) purity

Generally, the higher the peptide purity level, the more favorable the preparation; critically, for certain applications (such as in vitro studies or clinical trials), only exceedingly pure peptides will be appropriate (greater than 98% purity). However, for r-hGH is usually 95%.

The same applies more or less to Aromatase inhibitors such as exemestane, those who want to purchase premium exemestane may want to consider buying Aromasin (made by Pfizer).

Psychological stress

Uncertainty, constant fear of the family members finding anything, being alone, and not having anyone to talk to about this self-medication, not having anyone knowledgeable that the user could ask for advice, will cause stress and anxiety.

As I said previously using myself as an example, I would choose exemestane based on my self-knowledge to forget dosages, to just be an adolescent, going to a party and make mistakes forgetting about my responsibility.

And this is very similar to the entire topic, if you don't feel like it is something you can do, don’t even start. Suppose you are not able to approach the matter in a disciplined and orderly manner. In that case, I strongly advise against self-administration (which is what I generally do, I refer you to the disclaimer again).

I have written with people who told me about blood tests, that they couldn't do it because they didn't want to ask their parents.

That they couldn’t get a radiograph because their parents wouldn’t believe their made-up reason.

If you are unable to make an appointment with a laboratory or an orthopaedist yourself, if you don't trust yourself or don't even invest the time to understand what is possible, then you are not mature enough to go through with such self-medication and you will harm yourself.

Furthermore, I recommend that anyone who starts such self-medication anonymously contact a trustworthy endocrinologist. To establish contacts with other users (in this forum for example) and to involve parents or legal guardians in the project if possible.

The moral and ethical considerations surrounding the use of r-HGH and Aromatase Inhibitor for adolescents

I previously published a post similar to this one, and the first reply was “haram”, (Harām (حرام, harām) is an Arabic adjective that in Islam describes anything that is “forbidden, inviolable, sacred” according to Sharia law.), another interaction was someone who aggressively wanted to clarify to a user of steroids that he would never see how his body would have developed naturally, who he would have been without any aids.

In my opinion, a central point in this discussion is the question of fairness. Some people maintain their height and physical appearance without external intervention due to their genetic makeup, it's easy for them to play the moralizer. However, others consider using r-hGH and aromatase inhibitors to achieve similar results, to exploit their own personal potential fully.

If there is an opportunity to have a better life, why shouldn't you be allowed to take advantage of it?

If genetics are unfair, why shouldn’t we have the right to change their outcome?

This question is very profound but:

Every person has the right to make decisions about their own body, including the decision to undertake medical procedures to change external appearance.

Ultimately, ethical assessment depends heavily on individual values and social contexts in which these decisions are made.

A while ago I was lucky enough to chat with someone who decided against r-HGH a few years ago for similar reasons. He described it as one of his biggest mistakes, he tells me that he is unhappier today than ever before and wishes he had done it, took his chance, and changed his life forever.

Emergencies

It’s generally not possible to instantly die from r-hGH or aromatase inhibitors, no matter the dose.

If you notice strange feelings after your r-hGH injection and feel like it is something serious, stay calm. Call the emergency number, say what you are taking, how much, and how long, and have a vial of your r-hGH or pill of your Aromatase Inhibitor ready. If things get serious, use an EpiPen.

If you notice that you accidentally injected or took a too high dose of r-hGH your Aromatase Inhibitor assess the risks and maybe call the emergency number.

If you've swallowed the pill and it's been a short while, try throwing it up.

Drink water but don’t over-drink.

If you got eye contact with those drugs immediately flush your eye(s) with plenty of water. If irritation occurs or persists, get medical attention.

If the r-hGH has contact with your clothing or skin remove the clothing and wash the affected skin with soap and water. If irritation occurs or persists, get medical attention.

If you accidentally ingest the r-hGH get medical attention. Do not induce vomiting unless directed by medical personnel. Never give anything by mouth to an unconscious person.

If you inhale the r-hGH or your Aromatase Inhibitor remove to fresh air. If not breathing, give artificial respiration. Get medical attention.

Off-cycle
If you want to off-cycle r-hGH, gradually reduce the dose, similar to how you start, this helps the body adjust to the lower hormone levels.

Example: If you take 1 IU (International Unit) daily, reduce to 0.5 IU per day for one week, then to 0.25 IU per day for another week, and finally to 0.1 IU per day before you stop completely.

If you want to off-cycle exemestane, gradually reduce the dose, similar to how you start, this helps the body adjust to the hormone levels.

Example: If you take 25 mg daily, reduce the dose to 12.5 mg per day for one week, then to 12.5 mg every two days for another week, and finally to 6.25 mg per day for one week , before stopping completely.

Missing doses

Exemestane (Aromasin):

Missing a single dose of exemestane is not serious and will usually not have any negative effects.

If you miss a dose within a few hours of the usual time, take the missed dose as soon as possible.

If the next dose is due soon (e.g. within 12 hours), skip the missed dose and take the next dose at the regular time. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed dose.

Continue your normal dosing schedule as usual.

r-hGH doses:

Missing a single dose of r-hGH is not serious and will usually not have any negative effects.

If you miss a dose within a few hours of the usual time, take the missed dose as soon as possible.

If the next dose is due soon (e.g. within 12 hours), skip the missed dose and take the next dose at the regular time. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed dose.

Continue your normal dosing schedule as usual.


If you have plans for a party or an overnight stay and know you won't be able to inject at your regular time, you can inject a few hours earlier. It is generally safe to inject up to 4-6 hours earlier than usual, though injecting more than 6 hours earlier might not be ideal as it could affect the consistency of the treatment.
Alternatively, if feasible, you can inject later in the evening or night. If your usual injection time is before bedtime, you might delay the injection until you return home. Ensure that the injection is not delayed by more than a few hours to maintain consistent hormone levels. Missing a single dose occasionally is not likely to significantly impact your overall treatment, but this should not become a habit.

You should not miss doses more than once a month.

Supplements

[Optional] Use these supplements to ensure health:
  • Vitamin D and K2
  • Calcium
  • Magnesium
  • Ashwagandha
  • Zinc
Bitcoin and privacy

Acquiring Bitcoin is relatively easy. Many providers, such as BitPay or MoonPay, offer wallets without requiring extensive verification, and they allow payments via PayPal, Apple Pay, and other convenient methods. It is recommended to use the Tor Browser and a VPN when accessing illegal websites. Additionally, shipping to addresses other than your own is advisable. Using high-quality, new email accounts, such as ProtonMail, is also recommended for enhanced privacy.

Vacation

On vacation, do vacation.

Plan your vacation into your cycle and simply stop injecting r-hGH during that time.

It is possible to smuggle the r-hGH vials onto the plane, but it is strenuous and risky, as well as keeping it cool during the vacation and injecting it at the right time (hard if you party every day), storing the needles, etc. to take everything with you, this is all just stress.

On the other hand, it is quite easy to continue taking your exemestane pills.

If you really want to continue the administration, I recommend getting a Genotropin GoQuick pre-filled syringe and simply cooling it occasionally. Remove and replace the tag and smuggle it onto the plane.

Depression from drugs

Estrogen plays a role in regulating neurotransmitters such as serotonin and dopamine, which are linked to mood. A deficiency can therefore promote depressive symptoms. Aromatase Inhibitors are not the reason for depression but rather make it more susceptible.

So, if you are already prone to depression or maybe even struggle with it, you should discard the idea of starting medication yourself. You are too mentally weak and will only harm yourself and go crazy afterward.

Not only because of the effects of Aromatase Inhibitors on the brain but also because you may not be able to accept the outcomes and start brainless increasing doses and harming yourself.

In the past, we could see similar phenomena from users here on org often.

Conversely, nothing will happen to your mood if you are mentally stable and mature enough.

Do not misjudge yourself, increase doses without full consideration, or trade hastily, and especially don't try to save money!

Side effects:

Take breaks, maybe take every Saturday off, or decrease your dose until your body adapts, it will give it time.

Procrastination:

You are only one decision away from changing your life.

Don't waste your time letting this rot in the back of your head.

Days pass quickly and before you know it, another month has passed and then another. I know that for many people it is a big decision, but your time to do this is limited, so you have to decide. And then it's all or nothing.



Ending

Conclusion

Ultimately, other lifestyle changes are also necessary if someone really wants to fulfill his genetic potential and even go beyond it.

I would even say that if the lifestyle is not optimized, injections don't really help.

Perfecting sleep, diet, mindset, and overall lifestyle is a component of this topic that should not be ignored, for instance, if you sleep 4 hours a day, don't even bother thinking you’ll grow.

This guide could help you: click here


I refrain again to the disclaimer in the beginning.

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dnr, just trynna know if ill get more bonemass tho
 
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Storage Guidelines

The storage of exemestane etc. is fairly easy, but storing r-hGH correctly is crucial to maintain its effectiveness and safety.

After the r-hGH has arrived, it’s unmixed r-hGH in lyophilized (freeze-dried) powder form. This form of r-hGH is relatively stable and can typically be used up to the expiration date printed on the packaging if stored in the refrigerator at temperatures between 2 to 8 degrees Celsius (35.6 to 46.4 degrees Fahrenheit - There could also be other storage information on the package, such as 2-4 degrees, etc.).

If there is no date, expect 3 - 18+ months or e-mail your provider directly.

The expiration date assumes that the product has been continuously stored under recommended conditions and can often extend several years into the future, depending on the manufacturing date.

While there are people who recommend only shipping r-hGH refrigerated in the winter or late autumn, this is not necessarily.

Nevertheless, you should insist on refrigerated express transport, especially in the warm season.

Avoiding r-hGH to extreme temperatures, especially heat and direct sunlight, is important as this could destroy the structure of the polypeptide hormone.

In Liquid Form (After Reconstitution): Once r-hGH has been converted into liquid form by mixing it with a solvent, its shelf life significantly shortens. The exact duration depends on the specific product and the manufacturer's instructions but typically ranges from 14 to 28 days when consistently stored in the refrigerator. Some products may have a shorter shelf life.

I recommend injecting the r-hGH right after reconstituting and only reconstituting the amount that you need for your immediate dose or the next two doses.

A high-quality refrigerator is incredibly important. Do not waste your time and money on refrigerators in a price range of 20-80€. This applies to most refrigerators smaller than 445 mm x 500 mm x 468 mm. They are simply not good at cooling most of the time.

Make sure that your refrigerator can cool at least 30 degrees below room temperature, especially if these temperatures can occur in your home in the summer.

Only store your r-hGH vials in the refrigerator and make sure that the refrigerator has no UV-Light function or make sure that it's turned off.

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Medicine refrigerators are also a good option, they are much smaller and cool very precisely.

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Ensure that the refrigerator is not connected to a cable that poses a risk of power failure.

When choosing a refrigerator, pay attention to its volume.

As said, for exemestane (Aromatase Inhibitor in general) everything is a bit easier, keep your exemestane at normal room temperature (not above 25 degrees), away from direct sunlight or wetness (Also low-humidity environment).



Use of Assistive Devices
Those are important devices for the use of r-HGH.
  • Bacteriostatic water: To reconstitute the freeze-dried r-hGH.
  • Alcohol wipes: For sterilizing the injection site and vial.
  • 3cc syringe: Used for drawing bacteriostatic water.
  • Insulin syringe: For precise r-hGH dosing and subcutaneous injections.
I'll go more in-depth about what to do with those things later.

Storage for them is similar to the storage of Aromatase inhibitors.



The authenticity of r-hGH and Exemestane (Aromasin) and Ways to Verify

It's essential to make sure r-hGH and exemestane or Pfizer aromasin are effective.

This can be ensured in the first place by buying from sources that are accepted within the community.

For further ensure blood tests are required.

However, there are additional methods available to verify the authenticity of your r-hGH and exemestane or Pfizer Aromasin before using them.

Many counterfeit operations in China are infamous for bottling Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder into vials that are mislabeled as GH.

r-hGH Checklist:​

Test A:
  • Reconstitute the r-hGH.
  • Bring a pot of water to a boil.
  • Put the r-hGH vial into the boiling water for 2 minutes.
  • See if the solution turns milky/cloudy white.
  • If your r-hGH is real it will turn cloudy/milky white after this procedure.
  • Let the r-hGH vial stay at room temperature for one day.
  • If the solution becomes clear again and you don't see any milkiness then the r-hGH is fake.
Test B:
  • Buy a home pregnancy kit from a pharmacy.
  • Reconstitute the r-hGH and set it on the pregnancy kit.
  • If the result is positive, this indicates that the powder has tested positive for HCG, indicating that the r-hGH is counterfeit r-hGH.
  • Another way to perform the test is to urinate on it 2 days after ingesting the supposed r-hGH product. If the powder contains HCG, it will pass through the urine and the test should turn positive.
Test C:
Exemestane, Pfizer Aromasin Checklist:​

Exemestane from different pharmacies or UGLabs is hard to check for efficiency without trying it.

Known UGLabs usually have “verify” codes on the box and laborious analyses online on known Bodybuilding forums.

Aromasin is harder to check for authenticity
  • Inspect the pill, the pill should be:
  • Really small, roundish, white and with the number “7663” printed on the side
  • Inspect the package through comparison with photos on the internet



Injecting r-hGH:

Determining the appropriate r-HGH Dosage

The appropriate dose of r-hGH is the proper r-hGH dose for you.

While someone has to use a dose of 10IU r-hGH, you may only need a dose of 5IU r-hGH.

And the idea that the more IU of r-hGH you use means more effects is also wrong, this is because the liver simply stops producing more IGF-1 at some point, 30IU doesn't change that, you still reach the same peak as you may had with 5IU r-hGH.

This means that the only thing you achieve by injecting excessive amounts of r-hGH is burning money.

And by the way acromegalic, strong hormonal fluctuations and side effects.


Since we are aiming for controlled growth, we should also keep our hormone levels within or not excessively above the reference ranges, this is enough to get our desired growth spurts.

Generally, this is the dose that gets used: 0,035 mg/kg per day (1mg r-hGH = 3IU r-hGH).

So for the most 5-8 IU r-hGH, regular blood tests of IGF-1 and HGH are crucial to adjust the doses (This is the dose that maxes out IGF-1).

I personally don't recommend going above 10IU r-hGH ed.

I personally don’t recommend going under 3IU r-hGH ed.

As I said, be careful not to increase your IGF-1 etc. levels too much over a too long time period.

Administration Technique for r-HGH

As said before, in order to inject r-hGH you first have to reconstitute it into a liquid form.

For the whole injection process following things are necessary:
  • Bacteriostatic water: To convert the r-hGH powder into liquid (about 1ml is needed for 6IU).
  • 3cc syringe: For getting the bacteriostatic water out of the vial.
  • Insulin syringe: For the injection.
  • Alcoholic wipes: To keep everything clean during the process.
(r-hGH in liquid form is up to 10 days usable)


For the reconstruction part, watch this video:


A good calculation help is this website:

For the injection part watch this video:



Injections into the thigh or upper arm are also possible.

When trying to inject the r-hGH, make sure that your syringe doesn’t contain any air, injection of air will cause discomfort.

Note: When initiating r-hGH treatment, it is common to start with a lower dose than the target dosage. This approach allows your body and you to gradually adapt to the changes, thereby minimizing potential side effects. By beginning with a smaller dose, you are likely to experience fewer adverse reactions (An example of this is included in the cycle plan).

Timing of r-hGH Injections

The full daily dose of r-hGH is administrated before bed.

Try to give it consistently within an hour timeframe, for example between 9 and 10 p.m. every night.

You may change the time occasionally, by a few hours earlier or later, but do not give before 5 p.m, except under unusual circumstances (such as leaving for a trip, a sleepover, etc.)



Taking the correct dosage of Exemestane (Aromasin):

Determining the appropriate exemestane Dosage
Determining the right dose of exemestane is fairly easy, but it’s a process that takes time.

After blood test A arrives and your E2 baseline lies between 20-40 pg/ml you can start a dose of 6,25mg ed (every day).

Anything below 20 pg/ml is rather unlikely, but as long as it stays there naturally exemestane is not really needed, through regular blood tests it’s easy to notice if the value rises above 20 pg/ml.

Otherwise, you can also try 3.15mg of exemestane ed (every day).

Anything above 40 pg/ml will most likely need a higher dose than 6,25 mg, although I personally still recommend starting with 6.25 mg to give your body, and especially yourself time to get used to the side effects and adapt.

The side effects of exemestane appear quickly and disappear quickly – in the first few days of using exemestane (no matter the dose), you’ll experience light headaches, Joint pain and stiffness, fatigue, and even slight dizziness, everything will feel a little strange.

But this goes away fast, usually about 5-7 days until you have no side effects at all, even when you increase the dose.

In the best-case scenario, if you are patient and don't mind the money you need, you can approach it like this:
  • Get blood Test A.
  • Start with 3,15 mg ed (usually not enough to lower E2 sufficiently, but good to get a first understanding of the drug).
  • After 7 days do blood Test B (to see changes in your E2 levels and effects on fundamental organs, usually everything should be in the reference range).
  • Double the dose if you're not under the 20 pg/ml mark.
  • After 7 days do blood Test B (to see changes in your E2 levels and effects on fundamental organs).
  • Double the dose if you're not under the 20 pg/ml mark.
  • After 7 days do blood Test B (to see changes in your E2 levels and effects on fundamental organs).
  • Continue this until you are below the 20 pg/ml mark and understand your personal dosing.
For most, a daily dose of 12.5mg will be necessary to lower E2 levels enough.

For some, a daily dose of 12.5mg+ will be necessary to lower E2 levels enough.

Note that your exemestane, especially if it is not pharma Aromasin, may be underdosed, so you need higher doses even though your E2 levels are not that high.

Timing and method for exemestane administration
Exemestane shouldn’t be taken with the injection of r-hGH, a two-hour radius between those two drugs should be respected.

I recommend taking Exemestane around 12 o'clock to 14 o'clock, every day at the same time, preferably after eating a meal.

Studies and prescription instructions suggest better absorption by the body if Exemestane is consumed with or after a meal.

Alternatively, you can take Exemestane with a tablespoon of olive oil.

It’s also imperative to understand that AROMASIN requires a full 7 days to allow the body to achieve peak blood plasma levels of the compound.


Another method of administration is the sublingual administration. In short, the pill is placed under the tongue until it disappears, but this administration technique makes no real sense for exemestane, the idea is using the first-pass-effect to get the active ingredient directly into the bloodstream without it getting into the liver. But the enzyme CYP3A4 in the liver will metabolize exemestane either way.



Estimated Costs and Cycle:

List of Necessary Items with Pricing


Obviously, the listed prices are not precise and only fulfill the purpose of giving an idea moneywise.

I calculate with 60-day bulk in advance and 6IU r-hGH ed (every day).

Some things will last longer than the planned 60 days or are one-off expenses, that's why the start is the most expensive.


One-off expenses:
  • Refrigerator: 150€
  • Heart pressure monitor: 10-30€
  • Blood sugar meter: 10-30€
Recurring expenses:
  • Alcoholic Wipes (100 wipes): 10-15€
  • 3cc syringe: 10-30€
  • Insulin syringe: 10-30€
  • Blood sugar meter parts: 10-15€
  • Blood tests: 80-250
  • X-Ray: 70-150€
Recurring expenses:
  • 360IU r-hGH: 340-380€
  • 60ml (1ml ed) Bacteriostatic water: 50-70€ (If you want to save money just make your own bacteriostatic water it’s very easy actually)
  • 1x AROMASIN from Pfizer: 40-70€

Estimated total for the first 60 days:

About 750 - 950€

Estimated total price for the following 60 days:

About 650 – 800€ (mostly below this)​


Cycle Outline and Weekly Schedule, Including Precautions

This cycle outline is intended to provide a general visualization of the procedure. Variations from the plan in any aspect are entirely acceptable and should be tailored to your personal preferences.

It should be logical that you should not start the administration or do blood tests while you have any kind of illness, and start completely healthy (Of course, this also applies to your stress level).

[Stage 1] Preparation:
This should be done before doing anything.

PreparationImportance
Radiograph of the carpal bone or/and knee radiographImportant, except you experienced growth in the last 1-3 months
Blood Test AImportant
Measure, note, or photograph all important featuresImportant
All listed devices and drugsImportant, except you want to only do exemestane for now
A secure source of incomeImportant, mini job, etc.
Buffer budget (100-200€)Recommended

[Stage 2] Start of exemestane:
This is a 7-day plan. Only proceed to the next stage if your E2 levels are below 20 pg/ml and you no longer experience side effects from exemestane. Repeat this stage until your E2 levels are below 20 pg/ml and your body has fully adjusted to the hormonal changes, which typically takes about 7-14 days.
After 7 days, Blood Test B - dose adjustImportant
Note side effects and thoughtsRecommended

[Stage 3] Start of r-hGH:
R-hGH should be started with a moderate dose, as in the example here, (it can also be started with the desired dose, e.g. 6IU, 7IU, 8IU, etc.) increase the dose, as long as no serious side effects occur, slowly with 0.5IU to 1IU weekly.
Blood Test CImportant, everything has to be in the reference range
Start of r-hGH with 2IU ed (every day)Important, an increase of 0,5IU to 1IU weekly until the desired dose is reached
Measure, note, or photograph all important features (every month)Recommended

Daily safety plan from here on:

DailyImportance
Morning (after waking up):
Blood sugar monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Blood pressure monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Midday (after a meal):
Blood sugar monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Important
Blood pressure monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Important
Before Bed:
Blood sugar monitoringImportant
Blood pressure monitoringImportant
Time irrelevant
Hair loss preventionRecommended

After 2-4 weeks Blood Test D, depending on your feeling.

[Stage 4] r-hGH and exemestane (after habituation phase):

Cycle Blood Test D, E, and F every monthImportant
Measure, note, or photograph all important features (every month)Recommended

Daily safety plan from here on:

DailyImportance
Morning (after waking up):
Blood sugar monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Blood pressure monitoring (empty stomach)Important
Midday (after a meal):
Blood sugar monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Recommended
Blood pressure monitoring (before and 2 hours after)Recommended
Before Bed:
Blood sugar monitoringOptional
Blood pressure monitoringOptional
Time irrelevant
Hair loss preventionRecommended

If you get things like facial water retention, also start using things like Gua Sha daily, or doing exercises etc.



Additional recommendations and knowledge

Information about r-HGH and Aromatase Inhibitors and the differences between pharma and UGLs

It is worth reiterating that r-hGH stands out as the priciest performance-enhancing product available.

Most counterfeit r-hGH kits are manufactured in China because the laws there are not very strict about making chemicals into products.

Therefore, the production of these r-hGH kits is not very strict either.

I’ve chatted with @lightskinbengali about this and the effects can be far-reaching.

From poor purity to mislabelled HCG powder* to dreamlike purity but with unknown contamination such as heavy metals, everything can be in your vial.

Many counterfeit operations in China are infamous for bottling Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder into vials that are mislabelled as r-hGH.​
Using HCG and masquerading it as r-hGH proved both effective and profitable, as the freeze-dried HCG powder looks so similar to freeze-dried GH.​

Even with provided laboratory tests by Janoshik (The current market holder for laboratory analyses within the steroids market) it’s not sure what’s in the vial, especially because those analyses mostly don't even address possible contamination.

Ignoring that the technology behind bootleg r-hGH has become so advanced that many fake r-hGH kits contain unknown chemical additives that emulate the very same side effects that genuine r-hGH produces, there are also possible contaminations such as heavy metals in the r-HGH vial that arise during production.

Those looking to purchase premium r-hGH may want to consider Genotropin (made by Pharmacia), Norditropin (made by Novo Nodisk), Serostim (made by Serono), Humatrope (made by Eli Lilly), Omnitrope (made by Sandoz), and Saizen (made by Serono).

Human growth hormone (r-hGH) purity

Generally, the higher the peptide purity level, the more favorable the preparation; critically, for certain applications (such as in vitro studies or clinical trials), only exceedingly pure peptides will be appropriate (greater than 98% purity). However, for r-hGH is usually 95%.

The same applies more or less to Aromatase inhibitors such as exemestane, those who want to purchase premium exemestane may want to consider buying Aromasin (made by Pfizer).

Psychological stress

Uncertainty, constant fear of the family members finding anything, being alone, and not having anyone to talk to about this self-medication, not having anyone knowledgeable that the user could ask for advice, will cause stress and anxiety.

As I said previously using myself as an example, I would choose exemestane based on my self-knowledge to forget dosages, to just be an adolescent, going to a party and make mistakes forgetting about my responsibility.

And this is very similar to the entire topic, if you don't feel like it is something you can do, don’t even start. Suppose you are not able to approach the matter in a disciplined and orderly manner. In that case, I strongly advise against self-administration (which is what I generally do, I refer you to the disclaimer again).

I have written with people who told me about blood tests, that they couldn't do it because they didn't want to ask their parents.

That they couldn’t get a radiograph because their parents wouldn’t believe their made-up reason.

If you are unable to make an appointment with a laboratory or an orthopaedist yourself, if you don't trust yourself or don't even invest the time to understand what is possible, then you are not mature enough to go through with such self-medication and you will harm yourself.

Furthermore, I recommend that anyone who starts such self-medication anonymously contact a trustworthy endocrinologist. To establish contacts with other users (in this forum for example) and to involve parents or legal guardians in the project if possible.

The moral and ethical considerations surrounding the use of r-HGH and Aromatase Inhibitor for adolescents

I previously published a post similar to this one, and the first reply was “haram”, (Harām (حرام, harām) is an Arabic adjective that in Islam describes anything that is “forbidden, inviolable, sacred” according to Sharia law.), another interaction was someone who aggressively wanted to clarify to a user of steroids that he would never see how his body would have developed naturally, who he would have been without any aids.

In my opinion, a central point in this discussion is the question of fairness. Some people maintain their height and physical appearance without external intervention due to their genetic makeup, it's easy for them to play the moralizer. However, others consider using r-hGH and aromatase inhibitors to achieve similar results, to exploit their own personal potential fully.

If there is an opportunity to have a better life, why shouldn't you be allowed to take advantage of it?

If genetics are unfair, why shouldn’t we have the right to change their outcome?

This question is very profound but:

Every person has the right to make decisions about their own body, including the decision to undertake medical procedures to change external appearance.

Ultimately, ethical assessment depends heavily on individual values and social contexts in which these decisions are made.

A while ago I was lucky enough to chat with someone who decided against r-HGH a few years ago for similar reasons. He described it as one of his biggest mistakes, he tells me that he is unhappier today than ever before and wishes he had done it, took his chance, and changed his life forever.

Emergencies

It’s generally not possible to instantly die from r-hGH or aromatase inhibitors, no matter the dose.

If you notice strange feelings after your r-hGH injection and feel like it is something serious, stay calm. Call the emergency number, say what you are taking, how much, and how long, and have a vial of your r-hGH or pill of your Aromatase Inhibitor ready. If things get serious, use an EpiPen.

If you notice that you accidentally injected or took a too high dose of r-hGH your Aromatase Inhibitor assess the risks and maybe call the emergency number.

If you've swallowed the pill and it's been a short while, try throwing it up.

Drink water but don’t over-drink.

If you got eye contact with those drugs immediately flush your eye(s) with plenty of water. If irritation occurs or persists, get medical attention.

If the r-hGH has contact with your clothing or skin remove the clothing and wash the affected skin with soap and water. If irritation occurs or persists, get medical attention.

If you accidentally ingest the r-hGH get medical attention. Do not induce vomiting unless directed by medical personnel. Never give anything by mouth to an unconscious person.

If you inhale the r-hGH or your Aromatase Inhibitor remove to fresh air. If not breathing, give artificial respiration. Get medical attention.

Off-cycle
If you want to off-cycle r-hGH, gradually reduce the dose, similar to how you start, this helps the body adjust to the lower hormone levels.

Example: If you take 1 IU (International Unit) daily, reduce to 0.5 IU per day for one week, then to 0.25 IU per day for another week, and finally to 0.1 IU per day before you stop completely.

If you want to off-cycle exemestane, gradually reduce the dose, similar to how you start, this helps the body adjust to the hormone levels.

Example: If you take 25 mg daily, reduce the dose to 12.5 mg per day for one week, then to 12.5 mg every two days for another week, and finally to 6.25 mg per day for one week , before stopping completely.

Missing doses

Exemestane (Aromasin):

Missing a single dose of exemestane is not serious and will usually not have any negative effects.

If you miss a dose within a few hours of the usual time, take the missed dose as soon as possible.

If the next dose is due soon (e.g. within 12 hours), skip the missed dose and take the next dose at the regular time. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed dose.

Continue your normal dosing schedule as usual.

r-hGH doses:

Missing a single dose of r-hGH is not serious and will usually not have any negative effects.

If you miss a dose within a few hours of the usual time, take the missed dose as soon as possible.

If the next dose is due soon (e.g. within 12 hours), skip the missed dose and take the next dose at the regular time. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed dose.

Continue your normal dosing schedule as usual.


If you have plans for a party or an overnight stay and know you won't be able to inject at your regular time, you can inject a few hours earlier. It is generally safe to inject up to 4-6 hours earlier than usual, though injecting more than 6 hours earlier might not be ideal as it could affect the consistency of the treatment.
Alternatively, if feasible, you can inject later in the evening or night. If your usual injection time is before bedtime, you might delay the injection until you return home. Ensure that the injection is not delayed by more than a few hours to maintain consistent hormone levels. Missing a single dose occasionally is not likely to significantly impact your overall treatment, but this should not become a habit.

You should not miss doses more than once a month.

Supplements

[Optional] Use these supplements to ensure health:
  • Vitamin D and K2
  • Calcium
  • Magnesium
  • Ashwagandha
  • Zinc
Bitcoin and privacy

Acquiring Bitcoin is relatively easy. Many providers, such as BitPay or MoonPay, offer wallets without requiring extensive verification, and they allow payments via PayPal, Apple Pay, and other convenient methods. It is recommended to use the Tor Browser and a VPN when accessing illegal websites. Additionally, shipping to addresses other than your own is advisable. Using high-quality, new email accounts, such as ProtonMail, is also recommended for enhanced privacy.

Vacation

On vacation, do vacation.

Plan your vacation into your cycle and simply stop injecting r-hGH during that time.

It is possible to smuggle the r-hGH vials onto the plane, but it is strenuous and risky, as well as keeping it cool during the vacation and injecting it at the right time (hard if you party every day), storing the needles, etc. to take everything with you, this is all just stress.

On the other hand, it is quite easy to continue taking your exemestane pills.

If you really want to continue the administration, I recommend getting a Genotropin GoQuick pre-filled syringe and simply cooling it occasionally. Remove and replace the tag and smuggle it onto the plane.

Depression from drugs

Estrogen plays a role in regulating neurotransmitters such as serotonin and dopamine, which are linked to mood. A deficiency can therefore promote depressive symptoms. Aromatase Inhibitors are not the reason for depression but rather make it more susceptible.

So, if you are already prone to depression or maybe even struggle with it, you should discard the idea of starting medication yourself. You are too mentally weak and will only harm yourself and go crazy afterward.

Not only because of the effects of Aromatase Inhibitors on the brain but also because you may not be able to accept the outcomes and start brainless increasing doses and harming yourself.

In the past, we could see similar phenomena from users here on org often.

Conversely, nothing will happen to your mood if you are mentally stable and mature enough.

Do not misjudge yourself, increase doses without full consideration, or trade hastily, and especially don't try to save money!

Side effects:

Take breaks, maybe take every Saturday off, or decrease your dose until your body adapts, it will give it time.

Procrastination:

You are only one decision away from changing your life.

Don't waste your time letting this rot in the back of your head.

Days pass quickly and before you know it, another month has passed and then another. I know that for many people it is a big decision, but your time to do this is limited, so you have to decide. And then it's all or nothing.



Ending

Conclusion

Ultimately, other lifestyle changes are also necessary if someone really wants to fulfill his genetic potential and even go beyond it.

I would even say that if the lifestyle is not optimized, injections don't really help.

Perfecting sleep, diet, mindset, and overall lifestyle is a component of this topic that should not be ignored, for instance, if you sleep 4 hours a day, don't even bother thinking you’ll grow.

This guide could help you: click here


I refrain again to the disclaimer in the beginning.

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Didnt he just copy a thread ????
 
yes, starting 10IU soon and combining it with bonesmashing
doesnt bone remodeling even start at 0.5ui?
ik it is way too little for big changes but 10ui seems excessive
 
doesnt bone remodeling even start at 0.5ui?
ik it is way too little for big changes but 10ui seems excessive
primarily for height, but your right the dose is high
 

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