Do you fully believe in eugenics?

[Gamerspyy786]

By law of eugenics most people here should not have kids.

Quite literally over 80% of men in America have at least one of these issues that shouldn’t allow them to have kids if eugenic law was in place:

-Short height
- below average face
- death tier genetic failo (balding, very acne prone)
-some sort of genetic mental disorder like Asperger's or autism (I forgot if autism is genetic but u get the point)

Of course having one of these becomes excusable if the persons genetics are far superior than average in all the other metrics.


If only the top 20% of people were to reproduce the suffering of life would dramatically decrease. School shootings caused by genetic mental disorders like schizophrenia or Asperger’s would significantly decrease. There would be less suicides due to genetic defects like hair loss or short height. Bullying would be much lower.

Of course this is straight fantasy, none of this would play out in real life. There will always be subhumans, below average, average and above average looking people in the world in all metrics.

 

[Gamerspyy786]

@Jason Voorhees @LettersfromAgartha @greycel

 

[childishkillah]

No

 

[Gamerspyy786]

@Tomorrow @AuraMaxxing

 

[LXR]

Eugenics is just a made up term. You can also call it artificial selection. Eugenics's sole purpose is to invoke a scary image

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Jason Voorhees @LettersfromAgartha @greycel

No because genetic recombination is a thing and genetics are rare. A chad dad and Stacy mother doesn't guarantee attractive kids. All celebrity kids are proof of this. Genetics are very random and it's best for women to choose their mates freely like epigenics it can have disastrous outcomes but it works okay

 

[Gamerspyy786]

Eugenics is just a made up term. You can also call it artificial selection. Eugenics's sole purpose is to invoke a scary image

Yeah I mean u get the point

Only the top 20 or so % procreate the rest die out

It’s a nice concept on paper but will never work in practice

 

[Gamerspyy786]

No because genetic recombination is a thing and genetics are rare. A chad dad and Stacy mother doesn't guarantee attractive kids. All celebrity kids are proof of this. Genetics are very random and it's best for women to choose their mates freely like epigenics it can have disastrous outcomes but it works okay

But Chad dad and Stacy mother is still much better than Chad dad and ltb mother, in a case where maybe Chad dad loves the ltb more than the Stacy

To avoid as much suffering as possible you shouldn’t take the chance with the ltb but rather the Stacy to ensure the best genetics, no?

 

[Gamerspyy786]

No because genetic recombination is a thing and genetics are rare. A chad dad and Stacy mother doesn't guarantee attractive kids. All celebrity kids are proof of this. Genetics are very random and it's best for women to choose their mates freely like epigenics it can have disastrous outcomes but it works okay

Also many foidlet celebs are not genetic miracles they are hardmaxxed so their genetics are not as top tier as you may think

 

[Gamerspyy786]

No

Why not

 

[LXR]

Yeah I mean u get the point

Only the top 20 or so % procreate the rest die out

It’s a nice concept on paper but will never work in practice

Yeah no that is just a misunderstanding of biology. The people who purport eugenics think of evolution as an active natural force. In reality evolution and by extension selection is just a term to describe how species came to be. All the top 20% differ by environment.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

But Chad dad and Stacy mother is still much better than Chad dad and ltb mother, in a case where maybe Chad dad loves the ltb more than the Stacy

To avoid as much suffering as possible you shouldn’t take the chance with the ltb but rather the Stacy to ensure the best genetics, no?

Even on pure probabilities pairing Chad with Stacy over a lovedbbut-lessbattractive partner isn't the smart bet for minimizing suffering. Kids thrive more from emotional support, good environment in a secure marriage and a stable loving home than from maximized looks. genetics are a crapshoot anyway due to recombination and epigenetics.

Forcing a genetically superior match when there is no love and attachment results resentment, divorce or neglect which damages children way more than inheriting a recessed jawline ever could. This is how people end up as criminals, drug addicts murdered etc

 

[Gamerspyy786]

Even on pure probabilities pairing Chad with Stacy over a lovedbbut-lessbattractive partner isn't the smart bet for minimizing suffering. Kids thrive more from emotional support in a secure marriage and a stable loving home than from maximized looks. genetics are a crapshoot anyway due to recombination and epigenetics.

Forcing a genetically superior match when there is no love and attachment results resentment, divorce or neglect which damages children way more than inheriting a recessed jawline ever could. This is how people end up as criminals, drug addicts murdered etc

That’s a fair point

 

[KinG_moSsAd]

What does this even mean man

Do I believe it? Yes it's exists

CRISPR exists, PGT and IVF embryo selection exists, germline gene editing exists but it's illegal.

If you wanted to be on some Albert Wesker shit and create a race of perfect individuals, you'd have to jailbreak that.

 

[NoExit]

i believe in eveything

 

[King Midas]

By law of eugenics most people here should not have kids.

Quite literally over 80% of men in America have at least one of these issues that shouldn’t allow them to have kids if eugenic law was in place:

-Short height
- below average face
- death tier genetic failo (balding, very acne prone)
-some sort of genetic mental disorder like Asperger's or autism (I forgot if autism is genetic but u get the point)

Of course having one of these becomes excusable if the persons genetics are far superior than average in all the other metrics.


If only the top 20% of people were to reproduce the suffering of life would dramatically decrease. School shootings caused by genetic mental disorders like schizophrenia or Asperger’s would significantly decrease. There would be less suicides due to genetic defects like hair loss or short height. Bullying would be much lower.

Of course this is straight fantasy, none of this would play out in real life. There will always be subhumans, below average, average and above average looking people in the world in all metrics.

Pretty much. I would neuter myself if I wasn't atleast high MTN for the sake of society

 

[BrutalMogger]

i believe in eveything

so you believe richard ramirez is your lord and saviour

 

[Gamerspyy786]

What does this even mean man

Do I believe it? Yes it's exists

CRISPR exists, PGT and IVF embryo selection exists, germline gene editing exists but it's illegal.

If you wanted to be on some Albert Wesker shit and create a race of perfect individuals, you'd have to jailbreak that.

I’m just speaking about the mainstream idea of eugenics

Of course I already know it will never happen, a world where only the elite level genetics reproduce but it’s still a thought I had

On some level though, I think some people seriously shouldn’t have kids because of their own genes.

 

[BrutalMogger]

also eugenics are a invalid concept as you can just feed your kids primal diet and they will develop well

 

[KinG_moSsAd]

I’m just speaking about the mainstream idea of eugenics

Of course I already know it will never happen, a world where only the elite level genetics reproduce but it’s still a thought I had

On some level though, I think some people seriously shouldn’t have kids because of their own genes.

That is legit just based on outdated natsoc science, you can literally walk into a laboratory, design whatever traits you want the child to have and breed the perfect human.

Some Chinese guy did this in 2018, he made babies that were resistant to HIV and got 3 years in jail and 500k dollar fine

 

[MiserableMan]

Eugenics doesn't work anyway, genes are just too random which can get really frustrating. Until gene editing does not become main stream and safe, eugenics won't become truly applicable for the larger population.
@Jason Voorhees what do you think?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Yes, but not for muh attractive people
But I think only wealthy, respectable, dignified people should have the opportunity to breed

That being said, I don’t support any human breeding

 

[BrutalMogger]

Yes, but not for muh attractive people
But I think only wealthy, respectable, dignified people should have the opportunity to breed

That being said, I don’t support any human breeding

respectable in what regard?
.org reps or IRL status?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

respectable in what regard?
.org reps or IRL status?

Well, you can filter out subhumans like people who litter etc

Someone who respects the earth and respects their community is respectable to me

 

[NoExit]

so you believe richard ramirez is your lord and saviour

there is a truth to the stuff he said

 

[childishkillah]

Why not

Life is more than having off-spring. And no matter how subhuman someone can be, they can be happy.

 

[LTNUser]

Life is more than having off-spring. And no matter how subhuman someone can be, they can be happy.

You will never know what real love is if you are subhuman

 

[childishkillah]

You will never know what real love is if you are subhuman

And?

 

[Deleted member 303171]

Yes 100% nobody can give any argument against it

No because genetic recombination is a thing and genetics are rare.

So? That's just a cope. Of course you cannot guarantee certain traits after one generation, but heavily increase the likeliness of them appearing in future generations.

Genetics are very random

Most traits are inherited. Genetics are everything, twin studies prove my point here

it's best for women to choose their mates freely

No

like epigenics it can have disastrous outcomes but it works okay

That's fearmongering from the higher ups, completely unrealistic anything "disastrous" will happen if we have parenting licenses for people below 80 IQ/high criminal activity etc.

 

[Deleted member 303171]

Life is more than having off-spring. And no matter how subhuman someone can be, they can be happy.

Delete your account ASAP

 

[childishkillah]

Delete your account ASAP

This is not bluepilled at all

 

[childishkillah]

Delete your account ASAP

Why the JFL? You know what even blackpill is?

 

[Gamerspyy786]

also eugenics are a invalid concept as you can just feed your kids primal diet and they will develop well

Cope

 

[Gamerspyy786]

You will never know what real love is if you are subhuman

Which is why it’s better to breed more solely based on genetic quality to ensure your offspring doesn’t become incel, the worst fate anybody can have.

 

[Gamerspyy786]

Life is more than having off-spring. And no matter how subhuman someone can be, they can be happy.

I would disagree

Like 5’2 ltn that was in my class always looked bitter and sad. I don’t blame him whatsoever because it wasn’t a fate he chose. His genetics are the reason he’s probably so angry, resentful, probably contemplates suicide.

Even good looking people can be depressed, but subhumans are just generally worse off. Come on, this is basic level blackpill stuff.

 

[childishkillah]

I would disagree

Like 5’2 ltn that was in my class always looked bitter and sad. I don’t blame him whatsoever because it wasn’t a fate he chose. His genetics are the reason he’s probably so angry, resentful, probably contemplates suicide.

Even good looking people can be depressed, but subhumans are just generally worse off. Come on, this is basic level blackpill stuff.

Examples don't disprove my point. Thousands of people throughout history have lived happily solely through themselves and their solitude. You don't need external validation from anyone; it's just that many people aren't aware of this. And no, my point is still "blackpilled" as subhuman you have no chance of finding happiness in relationships or social interactions and ur prolly fucked if u want to be a normie, but that doesn't mean you can't find other ways for finding happiness and a high sense of accomplishment in your life.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yes 100% nobody can give any argument against it

So? That's just a cope. Of course you cannot guarantee certain traits after one generation, but heavily increase the likeliness of them appearing in future generations.

Most traits are inherited. Genetics are everything, twin studies prove my point here

No
That's fearmongering from the higher ups, completely unrealistic anything "disastrous" will happen if we have parenting licenses for people below 80 IQ/high criminal activity etc.

Human Geneotypes and alleles are extremely unpredictable and it's impossible to isolate all environmental variables. You can somewhat select for phenotype and maybe height and height still depends on environment.

Scientists have to go through dozens of generations of mice until they find someone with the desirable traits and mice have 10x more kids than humans. Eugenics for humans is mostly a failed concept. Selective breeding does works but it takes thousands of years, multiple generations and it doesn't always go according to how you've planned. The logistics of it alone doesn't make it work.

 

[greycel]

No but I believe in respecting the consistent separation between groups of individuals, that has been maintained + strengthened over the past 1000s of years
It's best if everybody sticks to their own

I don't believe in hard eugenics. There's no definite way to determine worth
It would occur passively in nature though

 

[Deleted member 303171]

Human Geneotypes and alleles are extremely unpredictable and it's impossible to isolate all environmental variables. You can somewhat select for phenotype and maybe height and height still depends on environment.

Scientists have to go through dozens of generations of mice until they find someone with the desirable traits and mice have 10x more kids than humans. Eugenics for humans is mostly a failed concept. Selective breeding does works but it takes thousands of years, multiple generations and it doesn't always go according to how you've planned. The logistics of it alone doesn't make it work.

I will write a more detailed thread as a response to this, you will be tagged

 

[greycel]

Human Geneotypes and alleles are extremely unpredictable and it's impossible to isolate all environmental variables. You can somewhat select for phenotype and maybe height and height still depends on environment.

Scientists have to go through dozens of generations of mice until they find someone with the desirable traits and mice have 10x more kids than humans. Eugenics for humans is mostly a failed concept. Selective breeding does works but it takes thousands of years, multiple generations and it doesn't always go according to how you've planned. The logistics of it alone doesn't make it work.

Most traits are inherited. Genetics are everything, twin studies prove my point here

It's probabilities influenced by your ancestor pool
Any boundaries that have been established towards selection for mate (voluntarily or not), reduces randomness. The more consistent this is, the larger the gap becomes
Biggest one being location --> race

Thousands of years of distinct breeding (where populations are sufficiently isolated) have caused inward convergence between members of the same group, with every group diverging from each other. They're dissimilar relative to each other, even if there is some overlap
Like this:

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

By law of eugenics most people here should not have kids.

Quite literally over 80% of men in America have at least one of these issues that shouldn’t allow them to have kids if eugenic law was in place:

-Short height
- below average face
- death tier genetic failo (balding, very acne prone)
-some sort of genetic mental disorder like Asperger's or autism (I forgot if autism is genetic but u get the point)

Of course having one of these becomes excusable if the persons genetics are far superior than average in all the other metrics.


If only the top 20% of people were to reproduce the suffering of life would dramatically decrease. School shootings caused by genetic mental disorders like schizophrenia or Asperger’s would significantly decrease. There would be less suicides due to genetic defects like hair loss or short height. Bullying would be much lower.

Of course this is straight fantasy, none of this would play out in real life. There will always be subhumans, below average, average and above average looking people in the world in all metrics.

But if theres eugenics, no one would be beautiful.