Do you guys really still believe in god

[Lefty Rankin]

i could argue the same for the universe's existence

Sure, but where does the structure come from? Why do laws such as physics exist?

 

[jozsef316@gmail]

Molly took my faith.

 

[lChad]

Whole point is universe has to be created but then god has to be created num nur

no,why universe have to be created for Gods existing that is not a better argument,okay who then created universe

 

[lChad]

so, who created god

Nobody created him,he is the First and Last there is nothing before him,and after him,for your easier understanding imagine God as a big energy that can create anything,not as a Person

 

[agarthancha]

Nobody created him,he is the First and Last there is nothing before him,and after him,for your easier understanding imagine God as a big energy that can create anything,not as a Person

Why does gid exist then

 

[agarthancha]

Sure, but where does the structure come from? Why do laws such as physics exist?

Because people created them

 

[agarthancha]

Because people created them

Or doscovered

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Because people created them

Im talking about the structure that the laws refer to. Why does it exist?

 

[Samuel.18]

Well it comes down to it’s illogical if the world needs a creator than god needs a creator and infiry

Nah not really. There has to be an uncreated being an eternal being wich would be God. The universe isn't eternal because it has been proven to have a start.

 

[agarthancha]

Nah not really. There has to be an uncreated being an eternal being wich would be God. The universe isn't eternal because it has been proven to have a start.

No it’s hasn’t

 

[agarthancha]

Im talking about the structure that the laws refer to. Why does it exist?

Because it does not everything has a meaning

 

[Samuel.18]

Christ isn’t real

There is some pretty good evidence of the existence of Jesus and him being God, even outside the Bible there are texts from Tactus who was a Roman or a Jew I dont remember. They confirmed the crufixicion of the Lord. Disprove the ressurection and you disprove Christianity. But that is not possible. Look into Jesus his life, teachings and texts who aren't from the Bible.

 

[Samuel.18]

i could argue the same for the universe's existence

Has been disproven by science tho

 

[cowmuncher26]

kind of

 

[Samuel.18]

No it’s hasn’t

Dude it litteraly has, its maybe the best evidence for God...

 

[accinr]

Has been disproven by science tho

cite the study

 

[accinr]

Sure, but where does the structure come from? Why do laws such as physics exist?

because they do as a consequence of such

 

[agarthancha]

There is some pretty good evidence of the existence of Jesus and him being God, even outside the Bible there are texts from Tactus who was a Roman or a Jew I dont remember. They confirmed the crufixicion of the Lord. Disprove the ressurection and you disprove Christianity. But that is not possible. Look into Jesus his life, teachings and texts who aren't from the Bible.

not a single verified source

 

[agarthancha]

Dude it litteraly has, its maybe the best evidence for God...

Cite

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Because it does not everything has a meaning

Its not about meaning. Most scientists find it perplexing that there's any structure at all in the universe.

 

[Samuel.18]

cite the study

 

[Samuel.18]

Cite

 

[Lefty Rankin]

because they do as a consequence of such

as a consequence of what though?

 

[g4rlic]

i dont have a need for religion and the implications of it are uncomfortable

 

[Samuel.18]

not a single verified source

What are you talking about? Look up Tacitus and what he wrote about Jesus. Before you say something stupid look it up. Most of the historici say its reliable

 

[accinr]

as a consequence of what though?

the universe's existence

 

[accinr]

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tbf all this is just a descriptor of the universe it does not disprove whether or not the universe has always been because the honest scientific answer is that we just dont know

 

[agarthancha]

It’s not about meaning. Most scientists find it perplexing that there's any structure at all in the universe.

You said what’s the meaning hypo

 

[accinr]

What are you talking about? Look up Tacitus and what he wrote about Jesus. Before you say something stupid look it up. Most of the historici say its reliable

Tacitus describes the crucifixion not the resurrection

 

[Samuel.18]

Tacitus describes the crucifixion not the resurrection

Yeah true I didn't mean the ressurection my bad

 

[AgentAngularity]

You called me?

 

[OmegaND]

retard