Do you need to get fat when you first start bulking?

[johnsmithcel]

I was told you need to sacrifice a year to bloatmaxx to put on decent muscle in your first time bulking natty.

Can I not just bulk/ cut around 5kgs every time to not bloat my face too much?

 

[johnsmithcel]

@thereallegend why jfl?

 

[Orc]

you don't need to bulk until you're like a year and a half or so into training, but past the initial noobie gain stage it becomes rough to add any significant amount of size unless you're in a prolonged surplus.

I got pretty fat last two bulks and looked like shit, this one not so much for some reason.

 

[johnsmithcel]

you don't need to bulk until you're like a year and a half or so into training, but past the initial noobie gain stage it becomes rough to add any significant amount of size unless you're in a prolonged surplus.

I got pretty fat last two bulks and looked like shit, this one not so much for some reason.

Define prolonged. I just wanna do 5kg bulk/cuts forever. Is that retarded?

 

[alien]

That first bulk takes forever.
I've been bulking for 118.5 days and gained 11.74 lbs in my 7-day average. And I'm still DYEL bro tier
Height: 167cm (5'5.75")
Starting Weight: 128.14 lbs (7-day average) September 25-October 1 2022
Current Weight: 139.89 lbs (7-day average) January 22-28 2023

In the last 60 days I gained 8.43 lbs (7-day avg) though.
November 23-29: 131.46 lbs (7-day average)

I gained 6.17 lbs (7-day avg) in the first 7 weeks of my bulk. But then I caught mono and lost 2.86 lbs (7-day avg) in 9 days because I was bed ridden, had loss of appetite and I missed the gym for 5 days. That really set me back.

 

[Orc]

Define prolonged. I just wanna do 5kg bulk/cuts forever. Is that retarded?

you can probably get away with it for a while but you'll stagnate at some point, worry about that later.

 

[johnsmithcel]

That first bulk takes forever.
I've been bulking for 118.5 days and gained 11.74 lbs in my 7-day average. And I'm still DYEL bro tier
Height: 167cm (5'5.75")
Starting Weight: 128.14 lbs (7-day average) September 25-October 1 2022
Current Weight: 139.89 lbs (7-day average) January 22-28 2023

In the last 60 days I gained 8.43 lbs (7-day avg).
November 23-29: 131.46 lbs (7-day average)

I gained 6.17 lbs (7-day avg) in the first 7 weeks of my bulk. But then I caught mono and lost 2.86 lbs (7-day avg) in 9 days because I was bed ridden, had loss of appetite and I missed the gym for 5 days. That really set me back.

Why does it have to take forever though? Did you notice your face getting fatter?
My starting point was 78kg after a year of training but I stayed the same weight the whole time.
6’0 btw

 

[potentialzaddy]

over 15%bf bulk for a year then get lean and then bulk again otherwise lean bulk, if you dont bulk before you cut and youre skinny fat youll look like a holocaust survivor

 

[toshiya]

Define prolonged. I just wanna do 5kg bulk/cuts forever. Is that retarded?

Yes

 

[johnsmithcel]

over 15%bf bulk for a year then get lean and then bulk again otherwise lean bulk, if you dont bulk before you cut and youre skinny fat youll look like a holocaust survivor

I plan to only bulk for 4 months to look good in the summer. Is a year really necessary?

 

[toshiya]

You can commit to the bulk for like 1-2yrs or just do a lean bulk but will take longer to build muscle

 

[johnsmithcel]

Why?

Yes

 

[toshiya]

Why?

you probably won’t put 5kg that’s mostly muscle in 4 months and even if you did 5kg bulk/cut will fuck up your stomach

 

[johnsmithcel]

you probably won’t put 5kg that’s mostly muscle in 4 months and even if you did 5kg bulk/cut will fuck up your stomach

So how many kg should I bulk?

I plan to only bulk for 4 months to look good in the summer. Is a year really necessary?

 

[toshiya]

So how many kg should I bulk?

If you want to stay looking good go on a lean bulk but that would best case scenario be 3kg after 4 months of dedication

 

[toshiya]

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If you want to stay looking good go on a lean bulk but that would best case scenario be 3kg after 4 months of dedication

And that 3kg won’t be pure muscle but you’ll prob be looking better with 4 months of lean bulking and consistent trainting

 

[johnsmithcel]

If you want to stay looking good go on a lean bulk but that would best case scenario be 3kg after 4 months of dedication

3kg muscle out of 5kg? That sounds good enough for me. Might do 7kg. Just want to keep it below 10.

 

[alien]

Why does it have to take forever though? Did you notice your face getting fatter?
My starting point was 78kg after a year of training but I stayed the same weight the whole time.
6’0 btw

Because it takes a long time to build muscle naturally. Some of my lifts like my bench press have plateau'd recently too despite my gains in weight.
When I looked at selfies from Sept 24 when I was 130.26 lbs 7-day avg vs. Jan 22 at 139.91 lbs 7-day avg side-by-side, I didn't notice a difference in facial fat.
I'm debating whether I should continue my bulk through the spring and give up on the plan to cut back down in the spring for the summer. Or if I should stop my bulk in the spring and start cutting. We're almost into February and I'm not happy with where my musculature is at. I basically just a beginner when I started my bulk in October and that mono stint set me back.

 

[pcmaxing]

The easiest and fastest way to addd Muscle and make sure your bf don’t get to out of control , is to do bulking n cutting cycles